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tneva82 wrote:
 queen_annes_revenge wrote:


Sorry what? A little childish don't you think?


Well you made claim. And i for one call bull on that one. Is it easy to make claims when you don't intend to prove it? But guess your replw proves you can't get anywhere as good looking sculpt.



No, you're trying to goad me into saying something like 'yeah I can sculpt' and providing a photo which you will then say 'see that's not as good as a FW sculptor' eg, being childish.

Im not going to indulge you however. I stand by my original statement, and disregarding whether I can sculpt or not (which you will now never know) ' you don't have to be a chef to know the food tastes bad' as the saying goes.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Scenic base is, so far as I'm aware, a Warhammer World and Event Exclusive.

Thankfully, some handsome, dashing idiot has a Facebook Group for that


I believe it will be available on the website initially, and then become an event\WHW exclusive. That was certainly stated when it was first previewed and today's post also says that the scenic base will be available for a limited time (which I'm assuming means online).
   
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Glad I picked one up at the weekender then

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 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
 Togusa wrote:
 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
 Togusa wrote:
 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Look at the primarch models.. Most (looking at mincing fulgrim here) of them are absolute masterpieces of sculpture and model design. They are miniature works of art. Compared to that, it's just a bit meh.


I dunno about that, 40K Roboute is FAR superior in sculpt than that weak baby-faced one from HH.



what have you been smoking?! ...Absolutely not. The 40k Guilliman looks terrible. Big barrel chest, tiny head, tiny chicken quads and massive flared calves.. Its like they used an opposite machine on all his proportions. And that flaming sword? Lame.


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Now the daemon primarchs on the other hand.. They are amazing models. I hope they make a daemon Angron to the same standard as Magnus.


Don't know what to tell ya, I have both and I think the 40K model is light-years better than the 30K one.



Fair enough, i'm not saying you cant have that opinion, I just don't understand why you would?


It's just aesthetics I guess. To be honest I can't think of a single model that GW makes that I would say I don't like. Maybe the old Warp Spiders? They look pretty bad.

Now. Something I will say is that you can definitely see how the 40K Roboute seems to share design elements with modern "MOBA" style video game characters. I won't say if that is good or bad or not, but it's apparent the sculptor took some influence from there for him.
   
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I think its too cartoony if that is the case... I prefer the more serious, Romanesque feel of the FW style. I think they look better on the shelf.
Its also weird that GW seem to go back and forth on the aesthetic on things like that. The aforementioned daemon Magnus, compared to say, the AoS troggoth things, and even internally amongst the same range, some of the Primaris Lieutenants compared to them silly transformer looking jetpack inceptors for example.

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Wow, Sanguinius' pose looks even more awkward and silly from head on. He goes from surfer dude to lord of the dance.

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I'm assuming there will be a greater Khorne demon posed to look like he's getting up from a waterbed to complete the diorama given Sanguinius' directional gaze.

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It is a cool display model with a cool display pose and is just awkward and silly on the table top.

Unfortunately, they keep making the primarch models in display poses rather than battlefield poses. So good if your interested in buying a primarch to paint and show off and terrible if your intending to use the primarch on the tabletop and wanted something that looked like it was "there".



 
   
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Primarchs make more sense as display models anyway. They don't look like Warhammer models and will look wrong on tabletop regardless, as they're done in completely different style.

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Bodt

Don't judge sanguinius from photos. You need to see him in the flesh.

Also, he really needs the display base. I won't be using that open hand at all.. Will probably save it for converting some other primarch model. If I didn't have the display base I would have to adjust that hand somehow too.

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 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Don't judge sanguinius from photos. You need to see him in the flesh.


It's a $100+ USD model. I suspect that the vast majority of Blood Angel players like myself will only see it in photo form before making a decision as to whether or not to buy it. YMMV.

   
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 BrotherGecko wrote:
It is a cool display model with a cool display pose and is just awkward and silly on the table top.

Unfortunately, they keep making the primarch models in display poses rather than battlefield poses. So good if your interested in buying a primarch to paint and show off and terrible if your intending to use the primarch on the tabletop and wanted something that looked like it was "there".




I suspect that most of the Primarch miniatures sold have been for display. Even amongst the Heresy players I know, all of us have our Primarch, but we don't really use them in games. Then there's the people with more than one (I've got four at the moment ).

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 BrotherGecko wrote:
It is a cool display model with a cool display pose and is just awkward and silly on the table top.

Unfortunately, they keep making the primarch models in display poses rather than battlefield poses. So good if your interested in buying a primarch to paint and show off and terrible if your intending to use the primarch on the tabletop and wanted something that looked like it was "there".




I feel like Primarchs are display models that happen to come with rules. None of them are really well suited to battlefield use, even the ones with basic poses (like Lorgar or Horus).
   
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 Red_Five wrote:
I feel like Primarchs are display models that happen to come with rules. None of them are really well suited to battlefield use, even the ones with basic poses (like Lorgar or Horus).
I have to disagree with that, plenty of them look fine in their gaming base, they aren't even Contemptor big:
Spoiler:





Its mostly the flying/jumping ones that look silly on the table
   
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I forgot how amazing Alpharius looks.

I WANT MORE HELMETS DAMMIT

CaptainStabby wrote:
If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.

 jy2 wrote:
BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

 vipoid wrote:
Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

 MarsNZ wrote:
ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
 
   
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Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

I WANT MORE HELMETS DAMMIT

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Ultramarines-MkIV-Praetorian-Heads-Upgrade-Set
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Iron-Hands-Legion-Upgrade-Set-Heads
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Raven-Guard-MKVI-Heads-Upgrade-Set
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Word-Bearers-MKIV-Upgrade-Pack-Heads
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/World-Eaters-Legion-MKII-Upgrade-Set-Heads
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Thousand-Sons-Mk-IV-Heads-Upgrade-Set
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Sons-of-Horus-MKIV-Upgrade-Set-Heads
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Thousand-Sons-Achean-pattern-Armour-Upgrade-Set
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Salamanders-Upgrade-Set-Heads
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Night-Lords-Legion-Terror-Squad-Upgrade-Pack-Heads
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/White-Scars-Mk-II-Heads-Upgrade-Set
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Legion-MKIII-Command-Upgrade-Set
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Legion-MKIV-Command-Upgrade-Set
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/World-Eaters-Legion-MKII-Upgrade-Set-Veteran-Heads
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Dark-Angels-Legion-Heads-Upgrade-Set
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Blood-Angels-Legion-Heads-Upgrade-Set
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Imperial-Fists-MK-III-Upgrade-Set-Veteran-Heads
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Emperor-s-Children-MKIV-Upgrade-Set-Heads
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/alpha-legion-mk-iv-heads
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Iron-Warriors-Legion-MKII-Heads

So how many more you need? I mean there is more, I didn't bother to link the sets that come packed with torsos. Also, FYI, pretty much all marine plastic multipart kits come with some extra helmets.


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 Looky Likey wrote:
 Red_Five wrote:
I feel like Primarchs are display models that happen to come with rules. None of them are really well suited to battlefield use, even the ones with basic poses (like Lorgar or Horus).
I have to disagree with that, plenty of them look fine in their gaming base, they aren't even Contemptor big:
Spoiler:





Its mostly the flying/jumping ones that look silly on the table


The models are difficult to reasonably hide thanks to how much taller primarchs are (compared to normal marines) and the fact that they are all on raised platforms. Also, Russ hangs over the edge of his base by quite a bit, which is a real pet peeve of mine (not everyone finds this annoying but I certainly do). Alpharius is probably the best of the bunch but, let us be honest here, his base is also super forgettable and boring. I will grant you, they are WAY better as usable models than something like Cruz or Fulgrim but they are not really ideal either.

Give and take, I suppose.

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 Crimson wrote:
Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

I WANT MORE HELMETS DAMMIT

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Ultramarines-MkIV-Praetorian-Heads-Upgrade-Set
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Iron-Hands-Legion-Upgrade-Set-Heads
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Raven-Guard-MKVI-Heads-Upgrade-Set
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Word-Bearers-MKIV-Upgrade-Pack-Heads
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/World-Eaters-Legion-MKII-Upgrade-Set-Heads
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Thousand-Sons-Mk-IV-Heads-Upgrade-Set
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Sons-of-Horus-MKIV-Upgrade-Set-Heads
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Thousand-Sons-Achean-pattern-Armour-Upgrade-Set
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Salamanders-Upgrade-Set-Heads
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Night-Lords-Legion-Terror-Squad-Upgrade-Pack-Heads
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/White-Scars-Mk-II-Heads-Upgrade-Set
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Legion-MKIII-Command-Upgrade-Set
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Legion-MKIV-Command-Upgrade-Set
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/World-Eaters-Legion-MKII-Upgrade-Set-Veteran-Heads
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Dark-Angels-Legion-Heads-Upgrade-Set
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Blood-Angels-Legion-Heads-Upgrade-Set
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Imperial-Fists-MK-III-Upgrade-Set-Veteran-Heads
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Emperor-s-Children-MKIV-Upgrade-Set-Heads
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/alpha-legion-mk-iv-heads
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Iron-Warriors-Legion-MKII-Heads

So how many more you need? I mean there is more, I didn't bother to link the sets that come packed with torsos. Also, FYI, pretty much all marine plastic multipart kits come with some extra helmets.



Pretty sure he meant helmets for primarchs.

   
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 Red Corsair wrote:

Pretty sure he meant helmets for primarchs.

Yes. So glue on a primarch. Due their different proportions, their heads aren't really noticeably, if at all, bigger.

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Why does everyone get a rage on about primarch helmets? They're supposed to be centre piece models.

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 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
 Togusa wrote:
 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Look at the primarch models.. Most (looking at mincing fulgrim here) of them are absolute masterpieces of sculpture and model design. They are miniature works of art. Compared to that, it's just a bit meh.

I dunno about that, 40K Roboute is FAR superior in sculpt than that weak baby-faced one from HH.

what have you been smoking?! ...Absolutely not. The 40k Guilliman looks terrible. Big barrel chest, tiny head, tiny chicken quads and massive flared calves.. Its like they used an opposite machine on all his proportions.

If by "proportions" you mean "garbage heroic scale that makes characters look like children" then yes, they did use that, because 40K Rob actually looks like a strongly built man:

Spoiler:

Not only 1:5 head proportions make 30K one look like a kid, a kid with abnormally long legs and tiny torso at that. If that is good proportions to you, then I don't know what to say.

[Before someone complains head sizes don't match the minis, I scaled the pictures to the mini, if you take correction for the bulk of the armour both heads are same size as photos]
   
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Here's an actual comparison picture:



Proportions and sizing is very very similar.

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Both heads are a little off in either direction (in the 40k example exaggerated by the top-heavy armor), but I personally can't deal with 40k with those 40k legs. Like, seriously, look at that body builder's thighs and tell me RG's legs would fit in that armor, without him having tiny little withered legs and dislocating both hips.


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 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Why does everyone get a rage on about primarch helmets? They're supposed to be centre piece models.


Rule of cool?

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 Irbis wrote:
 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
 Togusa wrote:
 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Look at the primarch models.. Most (looking at mincing fulgrim here) of them are absolute masterpieces of sculpture and model design. They are miniature works of art. Compared to that, it's just a bit meh.

I dunno about that, 40K Roboute is FAR superior in sculpt than that weak baby-faced one from HH.

what have you been smoking?! ...Absolutely not. The 40k Guilliman looks terrible. Big barrel chest, tiny head, tiny chicken quads and massive flared calves.. Its like they used an opposite machine on all his proportions.

If by "proportions" you mean "garbage heroic scale that makes characters look like children" then yes, they did use that, because 40K Rob actually looks like a strongly built man:

Spoiler:

Not only 1:5 head proportions make 30K one look like a kid, a kid with abnormally long legs and tiny torso at that. If that is good proportions to you, then I don't know what to say.

[Before someone complains head sizes don't match the minis, I scaled the pictures to the mini, if you take correction for the bulk of the armour both heads are same size as photos]


40k Rob does not look like a strongly built man. He looks like a baby inside of a giant robot suit. His body is much too large for the size of his head.

if you want a good example of when 40k does a big model justice, it is the new 40k Abaddon model.

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 Crimson wrote:
 Red Corsair wrote:

Pretty sure he meant helmets for primarchs.

Yes. So glue on a primarch. Due their different proportions, their heads aren't really noticeably, if at all, bigger.

While that's true, the helmets are distinct. We know what Lionel's and Vulkan's helmets look like, and Alpharius is damn gorgeous.

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If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.

 jy2 wrote:
BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

 vipoid wrote:
Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

 MarsNZ wrote:
ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
 
   
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Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
 Crimson wrote:
 Red Corsair wrote:

Pretty sure he meant helmets for primarchs.

Yes. So glue on a primarch. Due their different proportions, their heads aren't really noticeably, if at all, bigger.

While that's true, the helmets are distinct. We know what Lionel's and Vulkan's helmets look like, and Alpharius is damn gorgeous.


Yeah, Primarchs have the opportunity to wear the fanciest helmets of the galaxy, ones that would a Dire Avenger cry of envy. If Lion El'Johnson doesn't comes with an helmet with the biggest feathers of the galaxy I'LL RIOT.

 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

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Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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 spiralingcadaver wrote:
Both heads are a little off in either direction (in the 40k example exaggerated by the top-heavy armor), but I personally can't deal with 40k with those 40k legs. Like, seriously, look at that body builder's thighs and tell me RG's legs would fit in that armor, without him having tiny little withered legs and dislocating both hips.


Both of them would have pencil legs and arms with barrel chests and giant heads.
   
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I think that without the fancy base, sanguinius really looks awkward and the pose just seems ridiculessly strange.
I'll happily pay for the base just so it doesn't look terrible.

Has to be the first time ive seen a base make such a dramatic difference in a model too.
   
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 Bobthehero wrote:
 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Why does everyone get a rage on about primarch helmets? They're supposed to be centre piece models.


Rule of cool?



the rule of cool clearly states that wearing helmets is not cool. if you want an example then EVERY holly wood action move.

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