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Stores generally have an edge in supporting game clubs and acting as a local venue because of two core aspects

1) The store has an owner and staff, which generally removes a layer of politics and confusion over who is running the club and such. Some clubs can fall apart because no one is in charge really and thus its easy for no one sort things out.
Or they pull themselves apart arguing over who gets to run things.

2) The store has a long term commitment. In general a store is going to stick around, it won't get distracted with "real life" ergo work because it is their work.
Again clubs have crumbled because a few key people get caught up and stop turning up and that can easily cause a casual snowballing until no one turns up; or the guy who has the key becomes erratic at turning up; etc..


And yes I do agree, PP And GW and many other larger firms have sometimes had to take steps to curtail cheap online sales to protect physical stores and other aspects of their market/hobby. Simply put running a highstreet store comes with so many increased overheads these days. Rent, rates and taxes all vastly increase overhead on a highstreet store in reasonable (let alone decent) part of the town; over a warehouse which can be way out of town in a super cheap area. Heck some game stores can operate out of personal home addresses provided they've got a big enough garage.

https://home.privateerpress.com/2021/06/04/this-is-not-a-keynote/?fbclid=IwAR0WN6ztd21rz04XA6OEbAvFD9BjjJkJeYT_LFDsB3-8Bmu_jDfkolaD_HQ

some interesting stuff
While i don't play/collect, the monpoc stuff continues to tempt
The warcaster stuff is cool, the fact they're doing a fluff book makes me happy
Given i backed the kickstarter, more Requiem stuff, including one that focuses on the mystery of Ios which i'd been wondering about is awesome
As for the huge infernals models, i wish the difference between the two was more then just the hand options and if the tail is high or low
Mostly though, now i want more then just the fancy script word they posted to talk about the next faction hitting warmahordes, Orgoth

Orgoth is like PPs version of bringing back the Primarchs. It says earlier in the article that its too far out too show anything though.

Loving MonPoc. Impressed how they've continued to come up with new ideas for it.

We actually have one Orgoth sculpt from the widower's wood boardgame (still kicking myself for missing the KSer to get those exclusives in plastic).



Curios to see how much living Orgoth match the dead ones.

now the question is, will they pull from all the undead orgoth we are already familiar with from the rpgs, or perhaps stuff that shows the infernal influence, maybe the stuff that eventually made its way to cryx like the war witches

the force feels like it has the potential to pull from several existing lines

Orgoth feel like they were inevitable after Infernals.

 Arbitrator wrote:
Orgoth feel like they were inevitable after Infernals.

Going of the current lore and the new IKRPG lore, I don't think so. What we call Ogroth are humans who made deals with Infernals called Ogroth. They are competitors to the Nokorians who are another faction of Infernals. Whatever deal Thamar and Morrow made with the Nokorian order for humans to get magic also allowed the Nokorians to decimate the Ogroth in their own realm.

As numina who inhabit the spirit world in the spaces between things, quantum and cosmological, their realm has alot of resemblance to DnD's Limbo realm in Planescape. Time and matter ebbs and flows with the place of the inhabitants on the food chain being based upon their ability to enforce their will on the environment to create stability. The cosmos big and small and pretty large so their are unnumerable cults who gather around the metaphorical sharks of their strange oceanic emptiness where one moment there is a landscape where radiation flows like mercury tides and the next is just howling neutrino dust storms in the void. It is not unusual for cults to eat each other through warfare and for the Nokorian order the Umbral guardians are the subjected survivors of a devoured cult.

This is why souls are valuable currency. They can be spilt, melded, carve, molded but whatever form you put them into they are stable. One of the elven gods got turned to a sort of living key and they are still around in that realm.

While those humans who worshipped Ogroth are still around as, not even ghosts but living remnants of memories they are not a dominate force. The world was pretty decimated by the Infernals almost taking 3rd of the population so I wouldn't count on the out of control escalation like before and the release for WMH seem to be going at a reasonable pace as they manage multiple eggs in thier IP basket. Which is a good thing, they just need to expand at least one of those IPs out of just miniatures.

I am wondering what factions will look like in a Mk4 system. The Defiers have taken up residence in the town of Icthier, Protectorate is a shadow of itself with Sul being a ghost town where strange creatures lurk at night. Most of the survivors have fled to Zu with Tristan the Prophet of Menoth. Menoth was devastated by leadership who turned to infernal deals. Lael and Ord are almot operating as one country through their marriage arrangement. King Julian and Cygnar seem to have the world as their oyster. Rhul where untouched by the Infernals invasion and are strong. Queen Ayn is struggling with keeping Vlad's heir safe with most of their borders being inhabited and trying to retain Umbrea, New Umbrea, and her own borders. While Caspia uses the Morrowan Church, Thamarites and Order of Illumination to hunt infernalists, Khador has double down on the Old Faith worhsip of Menoth with the religious orders there working with the Greylord Covenant. Convergence of Cyriss worships openly now and have wide acceptance due to their importance in the final days of Hengehold.

Ios is a mystery, the place appears abandoned and those who enter never come back. Even the elves who returned home after the war. Cryx is Cryx and bidding their time since Infernals ate undead souls too. Skorne fled back across the Abyss to their homeland. Circle is rocking it since Infernals took care of the civilization problem to a degree. Minions are the same for the same reason. United Kriels are in Alcheire arcaepelago but some came back to Cygnar after the way and made a new treaty with Julian. I don't know what is going on with Legion.

In the failed timeline he uploaded his consciousness into the Cyriss Constellation (https://ironkingdoms.fandom.com/wiki/Convergence_of_Cyriss). Everblight ate all the minds in there and went full on Skynet. This is not what happened in the main timeline, but no news is out on what they are doing now.

Wrath of the Dragon Father inspired Khador and Cygnar to make sky ships. They are not everywhere but they are effective weapons of war.

The place the world is at with the lore we have now is not a world of escalating brinksmanship. It is going back to the OG border skirmishes with some scary stuff in the wild and ruined places of Immoren. With the introduction of skyships I wouldn't be surprised to see an Epic version of IK but on the 28mm front I see SKU slowing down. More focus seems to be on CIDs with themes being treat as minifactions like you see in GW with SM Chapters, Traitor Legions, Broods, etc. with some models being released wit CID to round out those mini-factions.

Hungerford left last week (the 4th) to go work for another company. So all the designers for MK3 are gone now I believe.

I've only seen a screen shot of his full text on FB. If I find it in text I'll post it here but here's a twitter thread. https://twitter.com/wnhungerford/status/1401894743030657027

A company IS bigger than one man but this still doesn't look good on top of all the other PP issues.

Wills great strength was that he could present to the community. The others leave me very cold. But I did think on the last few podcast appearances he did he didn't seem very enthused.

Best of luck to him.

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Soles.

 Mr. Grey wrote:

 Monkeysloth wrote:
Hungerford left last week (the 4th) to go work for another company. So all the designers for MK3 are gone now I believe.

I've only seen a screen shot of his full text on FB. If I find it in text I'll post it here but here's a twitter thread. https://twitter.com/wnhungerford/status/1401894743030657027

Well, that's awkward. So who's left driving the ship? Does that leave Warmachine with any remaining designers?

while the names currently escape me, they have a number of other designers, the probably i guess is that hungerford was very much a face and voice that had a strong online/media presence. he was who you'd see as a guest on a podcast or doing a game of warcaster or something in a video

I'm curious where the dude ends up next

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Jason is a nice guy and quite easy to talk to, but he's not a "look at me" public personality.

I am sure Will got a good offer from someonez and it is sad to see him leave - I mostly will remember him from his Press Gang days - but, you know -"This has all happened before, and it will all happen again".

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i mean, 10 years is a solid stretch at one place these days.
Be interesting to see what he helps produce now that he can expand beyond PP's IP

GW did JUST recently post a position fwiw. Not out of the question.

Faye has been helming some of Hungerford's duties for a little while now and she seems to have a good head for it. There's several faces that have been pretty prominent in the Insiders for a while; I just don't follow them as much as I used to.

 Mr. Grey wrote:

"Hey do you want to come work for us? We pay a higher salary and are located in a lower cost-of-living area than Seattle and it's surroundings."

There is a reason or two I think Hungerford would want to stay in Seattle that are not connected to games.

Maybe Wyrd is giving him a chance to return to the Bayou?

He could be jumping to Atomic Mass games too as they have all the star wars stuff now.

Honestly I think this is good for the company as pretty much everyone, that doesn't own privateer, that was involved with scuttling the press gangers and the MK3 launch are now gone. If people really want Privateer to break away and try new things out to become relevant again not having any of the people that were involved in the day to day operations that got Warmahordes where it ended up is probably increases the chances of such change.

 LunarSol wrote:
Maybe Wyrd is giving him a chance to return to the Bayou?

Id love for Will to work for Wyrd and turn his skills to Malifaux!

 Monkeysloth wrote:
He could be jumping to Atomic Mass games too as they have all the star wars stuff now.

He has already stated it is not AMG.

Brawlmachine on a Budget is back with Circle Orboros!

https://www.loswarmachine.com/brawlmachine/2021/4/27/brawlmachine-for-175-or-less-circle-orboros

Hungerford went to Broken Anvil Miniatures as Lead Game Designer.

 Ghool wrote:
Hungerford went to Broken Anvil Miniatures as Lead Game Designer.

Today I learned there's a Redwall styled minis game that has a competent game designer working on it. These are things my wallet really didn't want me to know.

 LunarSol wrote:

 Ghool wrote:
Hungerford went to Broken Anvil Miniatures as Lead Game Designer.

Today I learned there's a Redwall styled minis game that has a competent game designer working on it. These are things my wallet really didn't want me to know.

Wait for your mind to be blown - there's two then since the one I'm familiar with is Burrows and Badgers
https://www.oathswornminiatures.co.uk/c/4553237/1/burrows-badgers.html

Oh yeah... how could I forget that one....

I mean it; I mean, I successfully blocked it out without buying it. How did I do it? I must know my secrets!

Your only solution is to purge yourself through consumerism and buy a load of B&B models

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