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 Frazzled wrote:
Frankly we should have ended NATO at that point.

That would make Europe defenseless against the Soviet Union 2.0


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So dare I ask what happens if he farts? Could it blow the seals on the lower portion of his armor? Or is a space marine's system immune to such mundane fluctuations of bodily conduct?

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 Redcruisair wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
Frankly we should have ended NATO at that point.

That would make Europe defenseless against the Soviet Union 2.0



You have to be deluded to think modern Russia is the Soviet Union 2.0.

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Your reading comprehension must be terrible if you think I claimed modern Russia to be the Soviet Union 2.0

 amanita wrote:
So dare I ask what happens if he farts? Could it blow the seals on the lower portion of his armor? Or is a space marine's system immune to such mundane fluctuations of bodily conduct?

 Moktor wrote:
No one should be complaining about this codex. It gave regular Eldar a much needed buff by allowing us to drop Fire Dragons and D-Scythe Wraithguard wherever we want, without scatter. Without this, I almost lost a game once. It was scary. I almost took to buying fixed dice to ensure it never happened again.
 
   
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 Redcruisair wrote:
Your reading comprehension must be terrible if you think I claimed modern Russia to be the Soviet Union 2.0


What, then?

It sure as hell ain't ISIS.
   
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 Redcruisair wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
Frankly we should have ended NATO at that point.

That would make Europe defenseless against the Soviet Union 2.0



Wait I thought Europe was a big boy now?

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Who said that?

 amanita wrote:
So dare I ask what happens if he farts? Could it blow the seals on the lower portion of his armor? Or is a space marine's system immune to such mundane fluctuations of bodily conduct?

 Moktor wrote:
No one should be complaining about this codex. It gave regular Eldar a much needed buff by allowing us to drop Fire Dragons and D-Scythe Wraithguard wherever we want, without scatter. Without this, I almost lost a game once. It was scary. I almost took to buying fixed dice to ensure it never happened again.
 
   
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 Frazzled wrote:
 Redcruisair wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
Frankly we should have ended NATO at that point.

That would make Europe defenseless against the Soviet Union 2.0



Wait I thought Europe was a big boy now?


We are. As long as we are united under NATO

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Cool.

Then you don't need Dad's support any more and can go it without the US no?

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 Redcruisair wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
Frankly we should have ended NATO at that point.

That would make Europe defenseless against the Soviet Union 2.0

Europe can afford to be completely defenseless against the Soviet Union 2.0, because a Soviet Union 2.0 does not exist. You do not have to defend yourself from imaginary threats. There will also never be a Soviet Union 2.0. Time only moves forward and can not be turned back. The Soviet Union is gone now, and it will always be gone.

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 Iron_Captain wrote:
 Redcruisair wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
Frankly we should have ended NATO at that point.

That would make Europe defenseless against the Soviet Union 2.0

Europe can afford to be completely defenseless against the Soviet Union 2.0, because a Soviet Union 2.0 does not exist. You do not have to defend yourself from imaginary threats. There will also never be a Soviet Union 2.0. Time only moves forward and can not be turned back. The Soviet Union is gone now, and it will always be gone.


Someone should tell Putin...

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My thoughts exactly Malus.

 amanita wrote:
So dare I ask what happens if he farts? Could it blow the seals on the lower portion of his armor? Or is a space marine's system immune to such mundane fluctuations of bodily conduct?

 Moktor wrote:
No one should be complaining about this codex. It gave regular Eldar a much needed buff by allowing us to drop Fire Dragons and D-Scythe Wraithguard wherever we want, without scatter. Without this, I almost lost a game once. It was scary. I almost took to buying fixed dice to ensure it never happened again.
 
   
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 Iron_Captain wrote:

Europe can afford to be completely defenseless against the Soviet Union 2.0, because a Soviet Union 2.0 does not exist


Much like Russian troops in the Ukraine. (Never mind they're still wearing their unit insignias for some reason, or driving our their brand spanking new Russian tanks that their commanders allowed them to drive away 'on vacation' in total defiance of regulations.)


Edit: Putin is now demanding that the Ukraine order it's troops in Debaltseve to surrender to the Rebels and withdraw.

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 BaronIveagh wrote:
 Iron_Captain wrote:

Europe can afford to be completely defenseless against the Soviet Union 2.0, because a Soviet Union 2.0 does not exist


Much like Russian troops in the Ukraine. (Never mind they're still wearing their unit insignias for some reason, or driving our their brand spanking new Russian tanks that their commanders allowed them to drive away 'on vacation' in total defiance of regulations.)


Edit: Putin is now demanding that the Ukraine order it's troops in Debaltseve to surrender to the Rebels and withdraw.

Being as they're surrounded, that's not a bad idea. And let the ceasefire begin.



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 loki old fart wrote:
And let the ceasefire begin.

The ceasefire was already in effect, the rebels broke it because they wanted to retake Debaltseve.


 amanita wrote:
So dare I ask what happens if he farts? Could it blow the seals on the lower portion of his armor? Or is a space marine's system immune to such mundane fluctuations of bodily conduct?

 Moktor wrote:
No one should be complaining about this codex. It gave regular Eldar a much needed buff by allowing us to drop Fire Dragons and D-Scythe Wraithguard wherever we want, without scatter. Without this, I almost lost a game once. It was scary. I almost took to buying fixed dice to ensure it never happened again.
 
   
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 loki old fart wrote:

Being as they're surrounded, that's not a bad idea. And let the ceasefire begin.


Minor detail, under the terms of the cease fire, the rebels are technically supposed to withdraw from that area (IIRC) it being on the 'Ukraine' side of the line under the ceasefire. Rather than, you know, continue to surround and attack it. They've also supposedly attacked 130 other locations off and on since the beginning of the cease fire.

FYI: continuing to attack is not a 'cease fire'.

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 BaronIveagh wrote:
 loki old fart wrote:

Being as they're surrounded, that's not a bad idea. And let the ceasefire begin.


Minor detail, under the terms of the cease fire, the rebels are technically supposed to withdraw from that area (IIRC) it being on the 'Ukraine' side of the line under the ceasefire. Rather than, you know, continue to surround and attack it. They've also supposedly attacked 130 other locations off and on since the beginning of the cease fire.

FYI: continuing to attack is not a 'cease fire'.

The ceasefire hasn't really taken effect, because nobody's stopped firing.



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 Redcruisair wrote:
My thoughts exactly Malus.


Oh, so now you ARE saying Putin's Russia is the Soviet Union 2.0?
   
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No, I’m agreeing with Malus on the fact that Mr. Putin desires to erect a new Soviet Union.

Also, will you please stop with the petty personal attacks? I’m so sick and tired of them.

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 amanita wrote:
So dare I ask what happens if he farts? Could it blow the seals on the lower portion of his armor? Or is a space marine's system immune to such mundane fluctuations of bodily conduct?

 Moktor wrote:
No one should be complaining about this codex. It gave regular Eldar a much needed buff by allowing us to drop Fire Dragons and D-Scythe Wraithguard wherever we want, without scatter. Without this, I almost lost a game once. It was scary. I almost took to buying fixed dice to ensure it never happened again.
 
   
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 Redcruisair wrote:
No, I’m agreeing with Malus on the fact that Mr. Putin desires to erect a new Soviet Union.



I'm pretty sure Putin has made it a known secret that the Soviet Union collapsing was a complete tragedy in his eyes. He wants it back and the majority of the "Russian Racial Minorities" in the rest of the Eastern Bloc are his to rescue from their other Slavic overlords. His tactics and purpose isn't all that different than the Anschluss, Sudetenland Occupation the eventual Czech annexation and Memelland Annexation by the Germans prior to WWII, just a different part of Europe. Sham elections, thuggery, threats of invasion, open and armed rebellion by "oppressed racial minorities" and a host of other hallmarks are all too obvious for those with eyes.

There's even a border strife much like the Selisian Uprisings of 1919-1921 based on racial and ethnic ties.

Why the hell does history have to keep repeating itself?

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 Co'tor Shas wrote:
History has dementia.


More like people who don't know history, dont listen to those who do know history.... So what ends up happening is the people who know/study history say, "fine... you dont wanna listen? Fine, see if I care, I'm going to go back to reading my book on the finer dimensions of button manufacturing in 14th Century India"
   
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 Redcruisair wrote:
No, I’m agreeing with Malus on the fact that Mr. Putin desires to erect a new Soviet Union.

Also, will you please stop with the petty personal attacks? I’m so sick and tired of them.



Don't post in this thread then. You posted an opinion, I disagreed with it. If I'm "attacking" you, its because you keep contradicting yourself.

Get over yourself.

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 BaronIveagh wrote:
 loki old fart wrote:

Being as they're surrounded, that's not a bad idea. And let the ceasefire begin.


Minor detail, under the terms of the cease fire, the rebels are technically supposed to withdraw from that area (IIRC) it being on the 'Ukraine' side of the line under the ceasefire. Rather than, you know, continue to surround and attack it. They've also supposedly attacked 130 other locations off and on since the beginning of the cease fire.

FYI: continuing to attack is not a 'cease fire'.


Under the terms of the ceasefire rebels and Ukrainian army don't have to withdraw all forces, just heavy machinery (as I understand tanks and artillery). So even if they would - Ukrainian forces in Debaltsevo will continue to be surrounded and will try to get out. Also as DPR will try to prevent them. In Minsk Putin offered to discuss Debaltsevo situation, but Poroshenko says hat everything is good and there are no some thousand encircled warriors. And how encircled forces at Debaltsevo should withdraw heavy machinery from encircled Debaltsevo? From the first minute after signing this ceasefire it was clear that it will not work there.

By the way, you sad about 130 cases of violation from DPR, don't you wonna say about violations from Ukrainian forces too?

I'm really sorry about my bad English, I tried to avoid this topic, but it was too hard.

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 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Don't post in this thread then. You posted an opinion, I disagreed with it.

Well, you haven’t really disagreed with anything I’ve said so far. It’s more like you disagreed with some imaginary opinion no one here on this site made.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
If I'm "attacking" you, its because you keep contradicting yourself.

Where did I contradict myself? Please point it out to me.


 amanita wrote:
So dare I ask what happens if he farts? Could it blow the seals on the lower portion of his armor? Or is a space marine's system immune to such mundane fluctuations of bodily conduct?

 Moktor wrote:
No one should be complaining about this codex. It gave regular Eldar a much needed buff by allowing us to drop Fire Dragons and D-Scythe Wraithguard wherever we want, without scatter. Without this, I almost lost a game once. It was scary. I almost took to buying fixed dice to ensure it never happened again.
 
   
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Asadjud wrote:

Under the terms of the ceasefire rebels and Ukrainian army don't have to withdraw all forces, just heavy machinery (as I understand tanks and artillery). So even if they would - Ukrainian forces in Debaltsevo will continue to be surrounded and will try to get out. Also as DPR will try to prevent them. In Minsk Putin offered to discuss Debaltsevo situation, but Poroshenko says hat everything is good and there are no some thousand encircled warriors. And how encircled forces at Debaltsevo should withdraw heavy machinery from encircled Debaltsevo? From the first minute after signing this ceasefire it was clear that it will not work there.


Both sides were to withdraw heavy weapons in a buffer zone around the front, which neither has done. The part that made it work there was the clause that says both sides will withdraw to their Sept 2014 positions. So far, pretty much no one has paid attention to that one. Supposedly the rebels offered a withdrawal corridor, but then promptly captured the government forces that tried to use it.

Asadjud wrote:

By the way, you sad about 130 cases of violation from DPR, don't you wonna say about violations from Ukrainian forces too?


Five that could be verified.


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 Redcruisair wrote:
 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Don't post in this thread then. You posted an opinion, I disagreed with it.

Well, you haven’t really disagreed with anything I’ve said so far. It’s more like you disagreed with some imaginary opinion no one here on this site made.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
If I'm "attacking" you, its because you keep contradicting yourself.

Where did I contradict myself? Please point it out to me.



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 Redcruisair wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
Frankly we should have ended NATO at that point.

That would make Europe defenseless against the Soviet Union 2.0



 Redcruisair wrote:
Your reading comprehension must be terrible if you think I claimed modern Russia to be the Soviet Union 2.0


 Redcruisair wrote:
No, I’m agreeing with Malus on the fact that Mr. Putin desires to erect a new Soviet Union.

   
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So… let me get this straight. I agree with Malus that Putin clearly wishes for a new Soviet Union and according to you, that statement somehow contradicts with what I said about me not considering the CURRENT Russia to be a threat comparable to that of the FORMER Soviet Union? You’re really reaching far here shadow captain.

Do yourself a favor and stop this little one-man crusade you have going on here. Things are starting to get really embarrassing with you.


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So dare I ask what happens if he farts? Could it blow the seals on the lower portion of his armor? Or is a space marine's system immune to such mundane fluctuations of bodily conduct?

 Moktor wrote:
No one should be complaining about this codex. It gave regular Eldar a much needed buff by allowing us to drop Fire Dragons and D-Scythe Wraithguard wherever we want, without scatter. Without this, I almost lost a game once. It was scary. I almost took to buying fixed dice to ensure it never happened again.
 
   
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Anyway, ignoring who's Right and who's Reich for a moment:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31519000

Someone must have broken through, as the Ukrainians are withdrawing from Debaltseve with having to surrender.


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