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Looks like they are indeed going forward with their "Land of the Rising Sun" line.

3D Samurai Preview Part 1
24-Aug-2011

Our first preview of our upcoming Samurai set! This set is nearing sculpting completion and will soon be going to tooling. We're looking for your feedback and comments. We'll be posting additional 3D Samurai previews over the next few days. We look forward to hearing from you!
http://www.wargamesfactory.com/announcements/3d-samurai-preview

It looks...sorta passable I guess . I am inclined to agree with what someone else has said on their forums

Details nice but maybe a bit 'soft', swords look good but the head to big. But I'm afraid its the WF problem again on stiff, unatural poses, I can't see why a Samurai would be in that awkward position, what is he doing?

The head is too big and the armour looks odd in many ways: Too small shoulder armour (is that European chainmail on the arm?), too round armour flaps below girdle, pushed too far aside by the enormous leg. Still, as the head is removable (and replacable by Micro Art's samurai skaven heads), they have some conversion potential for Storm Vermin

Disappointing. It's not like samurai armor isn't well-documented with drawings and even photographic records to use for inspiration.

This is an example of samurai armor courtesy of Wikipedia:


There are numerous things left out or changed. Like Kroothawk said, the shoulder armor is too small (sote are nonexistant) , the lower body armor is not connected properly, and the head looks too big for the body. I do like the stern expression on the face, but he might look a little western. Not sure.

I'd love to see WGF get this right, as plastic samurai with all the great bitz and gubbins that they need would be most welcome in this hobby. But if they get it wrong, the whole exercise will just be a waste of time for me. But at least they're not giving him the Amazon treatment, eh?

Kroot the shoulder is actually correct more too a point. Normally the shoulder guards would be in place but being Samurai armor was made with thousands of small leather pieces it was heavily customised too the wearer based on their wealth. The perrys have several of their samurais missing the shoulder guards. That said on everything I honestly am unimpressed with these and honestly am greatly disapointed as usual with WGF. Conceptually and idea wise it would be great too see some newer samurai out on the market but as it stands these are just no where near the mark.

I don't know, it looks pretty good to me, though I agree the head looks large. Assuming its a typical multipart kit, the pose isn't important as one could change it.

Pretty odd subject material to try--Perry Miniatures fill this niche pretty well and are stiff competition...

AgeOfEgos wrote:Pretty odd subject material to try--Perry Miniatures fill this niche pretty well and are stiff competition...

MMM hmm I had 200 painted perrys and another 200 unpainted and I have yet too find anyone that comes close on those one.

Wow that looks...really good. Wargames Factory may finally be stepping up to the plate and reaching the potential that their previous releases have thus far fallen short of.

AgeOfEgos wrote:Pretty odd subject material to try--Perry Miniatures fill this niche pretty well and are stiff competition...

Yea, although I still find it ironic they claim that they themselves cannot do samurais in plastic (or at least well)

I hope they dont think "Oh well WGF already makes them, we dont ever need to do that" (kind of like Prussians, shame they wont make ones to out do warlord)

On the flipside, this could easily prove their point that samurais are impossible to do well in plastic

http://www.perry-miniatures.com/index2.html You mean like these kenshin they announced early on that they were working co-op with the other companies.

Empchild wrote: You mean like these kenshin they announced early on that they were working co-op with the other companies.

Yea I know that there have been agreements in UK on whos doing what, I just dont like warlord's take on prussian landwehr

I think it looks fine. It's funny that people pull out schematics on armor for this, but buy up GW vehicles like they're made of oxy.

Another failure from WGF. Their record remains untainted by success.

It looks pretty good. Not good enough to warrant an impulse-buy, but if I needed 28mm samurai I'd consider it. I hope it comes with a lot of bits, so that it can be fully customized.

Ah. It's a Japanese model with Japanese weapons. Not a very good idea considering it's the most sensitive topic for accuracy on the internet. That and modern firearms. Blame anime.

Well, while its certainly a massive improvement over their previous offerings, its still a rather 'meh' sculpt. Might be fun for some conversion work (I'm thinking samurai armored guard) as a side project, but otherwise I think I'll pass.

chaos0xomega wrote: ...Might be fun for some conversion work (I'm thinking samurai armored guard) as a side project...

Glad to see I'm not the only person whose first thought upon seeing a new 28mm model is 'New guard regiment!?!?'

I was thinking tomb guard myself.

Agamemnon2 wrote:Another failure from WGF. Their record remains untainted by success.

Agreed with this sentiment 100%. WGF has been my greatest disappointment in model design. GW still takes the cake for decision making of course, but at least their models are extremely good.

This samurai has the dual problems of not looking historically accurate, and being badly executed.

Absolutionis wrote:Ah. It's a Japanese model with Japanese weapons. Not a very good idea considering it's the most sensitive topic for accuracy on the internet. That and modern firearms. Blame anime.

You referencing to this gif?

kenshin620 wrote:

Absolutionis wrote:Ah. It's a Japanese model with Japanese weapons. Not a very good idea considering it's the most sensitive topic for accuracy on the internet. That and modern firearms. Blame anime.

You referencing to this gif?

Your image seems to be broken?

I'm not wowed, but I'm not terribly disappointed either. It seems to be a fairly good representation of the subject, certainly better than many of their previous offerings. WGF seems to get a bit better with each release, though I'm not nearly as enamored with them as I once was.

None of the links seem to connect to any news about a Perry plastic Samurai product. If it's true, then I do find it odd that they're entering the market against the Perry product which will almost certainly be better quality at nearly the same price.

I'll hold final judgement until actual product pics are released.

Drat silly link, anyways it was a gif with a guy whacking a katana against a broadsword. Guess what won

Eilif wrote:

None of the links seem to connect to any news about a Perry plastic Samurai product. If it's true, then I do find it odd that they're entering the market against the Perry product which will almost certainly be better quality at nearly the same price.

Perry isnt making plastics or at least I dont think they are, I mentioned the common thought that perry themselves said they couldnt do plastic samurais justice

Yeah, that's pretty bad but I'll withhold judgement until they produce a prototype and even then I might buy some for unit filler. I don't think anyone's going to say," Oi! that guy four rows back is not wearing period armor and his katana looks a bit sickly."

The model is rather lackluster. To me, it doesn't say Samurai...it says awkward teenager at the Ren Fair.

ShumaGorath wrote:I think it looks fine. It's funny that people pull out schematics on armor for this, but buy up GW vehicles like they're made of oxy.

Shuma when it comes too historicals it is all about perfect details. It is not sci-fi or fantasy where you have lots of room too add in what you want fluff wise and can explain away something, it is a representation of a person and the garb they wore during the time period. It's no different then reeinactors and what they do as they go so far too have a properly made replica of a canteen, or only smoke from a pipe because that's what the soldiers would have used back when. I sported a Samurai army at last years WAB tourneys at adepticon (suprisingly the only one) and personally am a HUGE fan of ancient Japan and the way of the Bushido. So when I pick and choose my historicals I want nothing but authenticity when I play because I am recreating a battle from back then and I don't want a machinegun, or a medival helment on my models.

Empchild wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:I think it looks fine. It's funny that people pull out schematics on armor for this, but buy up GW vehicles like they're made of oxy.

Shuma when it comes too historicals it is all about perfect details. It is not sci-fi or fantasy where you have lots of room too add in what you want fluff wise and can explain away something, it is a representation of a person and the garb they wore during the time period. It's no different then reeinactors and what they do as they go so far too have a properly made replica of a canteen, or only smoke from a pipe because that's what the soldiers would have used back when. I sported a Samurai army at last years WAB tourneys at adepticon (suprisingly the only one) and personally am a HUGE fan of ancient Japan and the way of the Bushido. So when I pick and choose my historicals I want nothing but authenticity when I play because I am recreating a battle from back then and I don't want a machinegun, or a medival helment on my models.

Yup this is very true. In fact when the WSS Cavalry sprue was shown, some of the forum people wrote essay-like dissection posts to pick out the errors/dislikes

It's neither particularly good nor particularly bad. For WGF, this categorization is an improvement.

Empchild wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:I think it looks fine. It's funny that people pull out schematics on armor for this, but buy up GW vehicles like they're made of oxy.

Shuma when it comes too historicals it is all about perfect details. It is not sci-fi or fantasy where you have lots of room too add in what you want fluff wise and can explain away something, it is a representation of a person and the garb they wore during the time period. It's no different then reeinactors and what they do as they go so far too have a properly made replica of a canteen, or only smoke from a pipe because that's what the soldiers would have used back when. I sported a Samurai army at last years WAB tourneys at adepticon (suprisingly the only one) and personally am a HUGE fan of ancient Japan and the way of the Bushido. So when I pick and choose my historicals I want nothing but authenticity when I play because I am recreating a battle from back then and I don't want a machinegun, or a medival helment on my models.

Exactly. GW vehicles (though I don't buy many of them either) are GW creations. They're something a GW designer essentially pulled out of their butt with a few nods to vaguely resembling something from history or pop culture. A Leman Russ or a Land Raider are whatever GW says they are, and even if they kinda look like some real-world tanks they are representations f a fictional model. Samurai actually existed. We have photos and drawings and paintings of them. We have examples of their armor in museums. We know very well what they looked like. There's no excuse for not getting the details right, other than laziness.

The bigger problem for me is that there isn't a good plastic samurai kit that I know of. If there was, then I could easily use it to make conversions for "fantasy samurai" or "tech samurai" or any other imaginary samurai I want to make. But if WGF can't make an authentic kit, then I've got nothing. It's a waste of plastic.

Johira... I don't understand the last part of your comment,you're complaining of a lack of historically accurate Samurai kits because you want to make... non historically accurate Samurai out of them?