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 Jambles wrote:
Not much ado about the psychic phase on our end. I guess we'll be getting that Smite power along with everybody else!

I'm really hoping they keep some of the cooler powers from our current list, Da Jump was always a blast And of course, it'd be great to see weirdboyz getting more powered up by being near other Orks...

As much as I'd like psychic powers to be chosen or at least have some set powers, Orks might be one of the factions where some randomness would be appropriate...

I'm pretty excited, I think we'll see more weirdboyz now. I think denying (with a psycher) will be more important. And that Smite spell? Wow!

I could totally see weirdboyz having +1 bonus to manifest a power if 10 boyz are nearby, something like that.

Regarding the Smite spell, it hits "the nearest unit". I wonder if LoS can be used against that, I guess not. MAWB on the front line tanking for the whole mob? Nahh.

Ashkayel wrote:

 Jambles wrote:
Not much ado about the psychic phase on our end. I guess we'll be getting that Smite power along with everybody else!

I'm really hoping they keep some of the cooler powers from our current list, Da Jump was always a blast And of course, it'd be great to see weirdboyz getting more powered up by being near other Orks...

As much as I'd like psychic powers to be chosen or at least have some set powers, Orks might be one of the factions where some randomness would be appropriate...

I'm pretty excited, I think we'll see more weirdboyz now. I think denying (with a psycher) will be more important. And that Smite spell? Wow!

I could totally see weirdboyz having +1 bonus to manifest a power if 10 boyz are nearby, something like that.

Regarding the Smite spell, it hits "the nearest unit". I wonder if LoS can be used against that, I guess not. MAWB on the front line tanking for the whole mob? Nahh.

Well if we get to choose which models to remove from the closest unit and/or still get 2+ LOS then guess who's bringing a ton of Boyz and grots!!

If Grots can hypothetically hurt anything, mine will be seeing the tabletop more frequently!

In AoS ork mages are very strong

I really can't wait to see the psychic powers, weirdboyz are practically never used because of them currently.

I saw the terminator stats and i wonder how will the stats for killa-kans will be now that they will have toughness.

Well, we know that Dreadnaughts have toughness, wounds, AND leadership. All of our Walkers will have those too. Hopefully, GW will just saddle Kans with low leadership and not feel the need add additional leadership affecting rules on them (and Orks in general).

 thenewgozoku wrote:
I saw the terminator stats and i wonder how will the stats for killa-kans will be now that they will have toughness.

Considering that dreadnoughts got 8 wounds I think the change from AV to T would be something like that:

AV10-11 : T6, 4+sv
AV12-13 : T7, 3+sv
AV14 : T8, 2+sv

2HP : 6W
3HP : 8W
4HP : 10W
5HP : 12W
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12HP : 26W (Stompa )

Killa Kans may probably be: T6, 6W, 4 or 3+ sv. And with a Ld value, no more Cowardly grots rule, but a crappy Ld5 I fear.

Maybe BW would be buffed too, if they get T8 and 2+sv (but even 3+ would be ok) and 10W. No more weak sides with AV12-10 but a single T value, and I really hope it would be the T8 and not the T7 one, which is more likely though.

with T6 6W 4+ save would be a lot better than a termie.

 Blackie wrote:


Killa Kans may probably be: T6, 6W, 4 or 3+ sv. And with a Ld value, no more Cowardly grots rule, but a crappy Ld5 I fear.

Considering that they have moved to the AOS morale system this probably wont matter; it may be a bit of a hit against squadrons, but we can always take then in groups of 1 to mitigate that

I've got a question about SWA. Does Mob Rule make you crit on 5-6 and not fumble at all when you charge? Or only rolls are affected.

 thenewgozoku wrote:
I saw the terminator stats and i wonder how will the stats for killa-kans will be now that they will have toughness.

I'd predict kans are between mega nobs and deffdreds akin to centurions being between terminators and dreadnauts. However there is a pretty big gap between terminators t4, 2w 2+ and dreadnauts t7, 8w, 3+
So I predict kans are around t6, 4w, 3+, and dreffdread are around t7, 8w, 3+

I hope walkers becomes a thing in 8th seeing we have 4 very different sizes of those

Wow.. Imagine the narrow front of BWs getting us a T8 model.. and no crappy flanking to get AV12.

Kanz.. t6 6W 3+.. that's a 150 point model

EDIT- our trukk could have a lot to gain to, even if it is T5 4W 4+.. it would be a steal at 30 points

In the curent meta maybe, but with Lascanons that can one shot them...

Alkorus wrote:
In the curent meta maybe, but with Lascanons that can one shot them...

I feel that's about right... 1 lascannon blowing up a trukk about 1/2 of the time, but need a full 10 man tac squad firing bolters to do the same thing.

Sounds like it'll make specialization of greater importance. Everything will be technically able to damage everything else, sure, but if you want speed, you want specialization.

Hey guys (and gals),

I just had a pleasant thought.

We might get real deff rollas back!!

Happy Orking!

Tankbustas and Burnas that are highly specialised will be awesome.

Being able to shoot a pistol in close combat feels like we'll lose the +1 A for wielding a weapon and a pistol...

I hope not cause we will trade a 4+ attack with maybe rending for a non rending 5+ attack.

 thenewgozoku wrote:
I hope not cause we will trade a 4+ attack with maybe rending for a non rending 5+ attack.

Yeah. Thinking about it, replacing the +1A in close combat for a shot of pistol (in shooting phase) is a step back in making the game faster. The +1A was fast and fluffy, you could say. I don't see the point of replacing it with a shot in the shooting phase.

But if we keep the +1A and we can shoot in the shooting phase, then yes it takes more time but at least it makes the pistols stronger. But then again, since we charge in the assault phase, we won't be able to use our pistols in the turn we charge, only in the subsequent turns (if the opponent has not disengaged from combat). All in all it seems we won't be using that rule often. I wonder why they changed that...

Slugga boyz charging with their usual 4 attacks. On your opponent's turn, if he stays in close combat, he can shoot at you with pistols. Then on your next turn, if the combat is not over yet, you get to shoot at them in the shooting phase. Then attack them in the assault phase. Wow that seems pretty situational...

This benefit tac marines that also have pistols with their bolters or heavy/special weaponry

I mean I guess this would help our grots hit with S3 in melee? Which is ok I guess.

I hope that they don't add that in, it would slow the game significantly down for prolonged combats. And our Nobz would suffer from it as they hit harder in close combat. I want to use my tons of Nobz! They need to be useful!

So...if cover stacks with armor, then 'eavy armored ork boyz get terminator saves in cover?

That is bizarre. Nice, but bizarre.

 JimOnMars wrote:
So...if cover stacks with armor, then 'eavy armored ork boyz get terminator saves in cover?

That is bizarre. Nice, but bizarre.

Well, an 'eavy armored ork hidden behing a hill should be pretty tough to hit...

Also the fact that our vehicle weapons are assault means that they won't get the -1 penalty for moving.

Alkorus wrote:
In the curent meta maybe, but with Lascanons that can one shot them...

You're right but lascannons aren't scatter lasers or grav weapons, it's not that easy to spam them. And they're heavy weapons which means they can only snap fire if they move. Even with some lucky D6 rolls destroying 8 trukks would be tougher than now, that's for sure.

Battlewagons can become quite effective too, no more suffering from being shot at the weakest side. And if they get T8, 10W and 2+ save....

BW were expensive for a vehicle that got destroyed so easy

We get +1 inch on all our charge range, yay!

But lone koptas eating overwatch now need to 1) survive and 2) reach the enemy.

Not that bad.