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Ok sorry, I know this is a very stupid question, but I ask it for several reasons. 1. I dont want to argue with my friend anymore. 2. I am too poor to buy a 4th ed rule book. 3. No where near where I could get one anyway.

I guess my friend has downloaded the army builder program or the 4th ed rule book and keeps telling me that depending on how much pts you use depends on how many HQs you must have.  1-750 = 1 HQ,  751-1500 = 2 HQ, 1501-2250....you get the idea. From what I remember of 3rd is you need a min. of 1 and a max of 2, but you never need to take two. So how does 4th work am I stupid or is my friend....thanks

Those are the rules for space wolf HQs

Posted by PowderRFC on 03/01/2006 10:52 AM
I am too poor to buy a 4th ed rule book

Yet you will be spending hundreds of dollars on miniatures instead? If you can afford to play the game at all, you can afford the rulebook.

Ok cool so I was right one min two max. Ha and I know its just this is my last semester of college when Im done then I will have money. Thanks.

Well Space Marines can have more HQ choice in Command squads but thats another story for another thread. Plus that has nothing to do with points being played either.

Posted By CaptAnderton on 03/01/2006 11:09 AM
Well Space Marines can have more HQ choice in Command squads but thats another story for another thread. Plus that has nothing to do with points being played either.

Umm no. Space Marines can only have 2 HQs (save Space Puppies) but can have more than one charachter in a command squad (must be a chappy or lib or both).

Black templars can have 2 HQ choices plus the Emp's Chum (does not count as an HQ.

Those are the rules.

BTW which army is he playing?

Sorry Negativemoney. I didn't call the HQ choices characters. I should have said "You can have more than one IC in a HQ squad."

Posted By CaptAnderton on 03/02/2006 8:16 AM
I should have said "You can have more than one IC in a HQ squad."

Which is relevent to the question how?

I'm sure the name of this post is "How many HQ's can you have?" And thats 100% relevent to the question.

Posted By CaptAnderton on 03/02/2006 11:17 AM
I'm sure the name of this post is "How many HQ's can you have?" And thats 100% relevent to the question.

Not really... as you've been corrected, the number of ICs in an HQ slot has no bearing on how many HQs you can have any more than the number of speeders in a squadron has any bearing on the number of Fast Attack choices you can have.

Hmm. Lets see. Chaplains a HQ. Master is a HQ. Librarian is a HQ. I have a Chaplain/Master in one squad and Chaplain/Librians in another squad. How many HQ's do you have? I have 2 HQ's with a total of 4 HQ choices. It's how I look at it. You say tomAto, i say potAto.

I thought a Command Squad was an add-on for a character, so even if you have two characters and one squad it still counts as two HQ choices, so a third character wouldn't be allowed?

Hmm. Lets see. Chaplains a HQ. Master is a HQ. Librarian is a HQ. I have a Chaplain/Master in one squad and Chaplain/Librians in another squad. How many HQ's do you have? I have 2 HQ's with a total of 4 HQ choices. It's how I look at it. You say tomAto, i say potAto.

You're listing ICs; a HQ is whatever takes the HQ slot. If, like in this example, an option allows you to take multiple ICs in one HQ slot, you don't have 4 HQ choices; you have 4 ICs in 2 HQ choices.

Lord_sutekh is correct multiple ICs in one squad are still 1 HQ choice.

The way the initial question was phrased was if a game is worth a certain amount of points how many HQs can be taken. HQs refer to slot on the force organization chart not the list entry where the model is found. If I take a LRD with my BT command squad would that count as a Heavy if its part of the list entry? The answer is no.

@Anderton: You say tomAto, i say potAto.

I know you're slow and all, but atleast get this right... You say tomAto, I say tomato...You say potAto, I say potato. sheesh

I prefered the Christopher Walken SNL version:

You say "potato", and I say "potato"
You say "tomato", and I say "tomato"

Posted By blue loki on 03/03/2006 2:28 PM
I prefered the Christopher Walken SNL version:

You say "potato", and I say "potato"
You say "tomato", and I say "tomato"

Solid gold.

"Easy, guys.. I put my pants on just like the rest of you - one leg at a time. Except, once my pants are on, I make GT-winning armies"

You didn't catch the joke I wasn't talking on topic so I said the tomato/potato. Come on people, where is your sense of humor?

We got it. It was just stupid.

Again Mauleed stop stalking me. I already said no three times. Stop asking me out. I don't swing that way and I don't give free lessons.

Posted By PowderRFC on 03/01/2006 9:52 AM
 I am too poor to buy a 4th ed rule book.