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I've been wondering how the average dakka user feels about them

Mine is 7/10. Considering the fact that nearly all my money goes to them and I love their games and fluff stories, it should be 10, but the prices and some other recent issues (finecast) put a dent into that. But I still like them.

How do you feel about them?

I'll give them a 5.

I deducted 2 points for the prices, 1 point for the lack of two way communication, 1 point for not promoting the DIY aspect of the hobby anymore and 1 point for turning WD into a catalogue.

6/10
If they were better at pricing and organising events it would be a 10. Also, I don't like finecast.

Love the products, the universe, the fluff, the history, everything they churn out is brilliant, though price increases and this secrecy thing does them down in my opinion. I do wish white dwarf was more as it was 10 years ago too.

I would complain about FINEcast, but don't feel like I should as the customer service more than makes up for it. I also don't want to turn this thread into a finecast hate march either!

I went 8/10 ... they generally have everything I need (I haven't branched out into converting, modelling, other aspects of the hobby ... yet) and the prices are something I can deal with.

5/10.

Love the universe, hate the company and games that control it.

I gave 3/10.

I love the background they created, and for many years GW were the only figures I bought, especially the specialist games range (when fully supported). I also looked forward to WD each month.

Now, my love for them has waned considerably. The prices are crazy, and getting crazier all the time, the range of games they support has dropped, and the way they treat customers these days, especially in the Southern hemisphere is just pathetic, and frankly, what they have allowed WD to become is just criminal.

GW was once a bright, vibrant & innovative company worthy of support, now they are just a plain greedy, vindictive company who seem to hold it's customers in total contempt, while wanting them to pay exhorbitant prices for sub-standard product ('finecast').

I voted 10/10 (I am not a total fanboy) But I really like the company that does this for me, I have a great time at this hobby, prices could be lower, but they aren't horrible.. and I actually LIKE finecast from what I have seen. I think GW is an awesome company, and honestly, without fantasy and 40k, I would probably be playing Xbox with my spare time, so it is probably good for me.

4/10. love the fluff and a lot of the models look nice, but the rules are horrible now (40k) and the prices are pretty steep. the neglect to specialist games is also a big thing for me.

GW has lost me as a customer for many years now. i have moved on to other game systems.

3/10 pretty much done with GW at this point. 8th ed WFB is a wreck. Can't stand the shift to over sized vehicles in 40K. Warhammer historical seems to be trying to run off their customers. Still Devlan Mud must count for something....

Pretty low these days, but they get points (3 of 10) for very good technical quality of their plastic sculpts, even if I think many of the new models are overdesigned in the extreme.

I feel I have become too old for both the fluff and the games, or, alternately, GW has made the fluff and the games too childish for me.

They make really nice minis (+3) and terrible, basic rulesets (+1) that make my friends fight each other (-2) that I can't afford (-2).

0/10

My only major complaint is that I wish they'd write their rules a little tighter, and be a little more on the ball with the FAQs.

Other than that though, I really don't have anything bad to say. 9/10

8/10 because games are fun, minis are good, customer service is excellent.

minus points for price and 'white dwarf factor' ie no communication until the day then: ZOMG ITS UBER BUY OVAR NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAND OF THEM!)

Paints, minis are some of the best. Fluff is good. Rules hit and miss- it's not tight like warmachine but warmachine is a ccg with minatures as far a s I'm concerned.

Badly run 4/10.

The fact that I can't actually buy their product without a large inconvenience, and then have to pay a lump of money on top of RRP, means my score is 3/10.

I love the background and imagery, a lot of the model range (although I don't like the recent movement towards large, almost toy-like plastic kits), but I feel the company has been badly run since they started selling shares - at that point, a slow downward slide began, and the company is now run by money men who care little for the hobby and those who take part in it.

I still believe there are a core of creative types at the heart of the company, and the occasionally stunning work they produce (such as the DE), as well as the reading material coming out of BL and FW is the only reason they don't get a 0 or a 1.

10 / 10

-3 : For WHFB 8th Edition
-1 : For Necromunda
-1 : For Mordheim
-1 : For BFG
-1 : For unexplainable price hikes
-1 : For Failcast
-1 : For horrible trade practices with online retailers and mortar and brick stores alike
-1 : For WD

I could go on but they are already at 0 / 10, so I gave them a 1 / 10...

Hey look guys, it is this thread again.

I honestly cannot rate a company that provides models to build and paint, saying GW is the hobby is sort of pointless as there are other companies that make miniatures and game rules. Honestly the best way to to voice your opinion about GW is to vote with your wallet, as senseless complaining is worthless, and also a waste of time.

But to be completely honest, if I was offered a NIB Land Raider or a WtA rulebook for five dollars I would take the book and cackle maniacally as I ran away from the guy.

So a resounding I do not care out of ten.

btemple0 wrote:Hey look guys, it is this thread again.

I honestly cannot rate a company that provides models to build and paint, saying GW is the hobby is sort of pointless as there are other companies that make miniatures and game rules. Honestly the best way to to voice your opinion about GW is to vote with your wallet, as senseless complaining is worthless, and also a waste of time.

But to be completely honest, if I was offered a NIB Land Raider or a WtA rulebook for five dollars I would take the book and cackle maniacally as I ran away from the guy.

So a resounding I do not care out of ten.

Hey look guys, it is this post again.

Was this even necessary? I find it ironic that you think senseless complaining is worthless and a waste of time - what exactly, then, is your own post?

Someone asked a question about the general opinion of GW. As of yet, the discussion has been reasonable and peaceful - it's not a 'GRR! I hate GW, and so should the rest of you!' thread, but a 'What's your overall opinion of GW? I think they're doing ok, but there's a couple of things wrong with them, and here are my legitimate reasons for concern' thread.

If you don't care, why do you feel as though you need to let everyone else know?

I like their games and fluff a whole lot but find that they are a bit costly - so 7/10.

Usually get very good service from any individuals I have spoken to in the company from the stores to the telesales

8/10


They're alright. I love chaos space marines, so I guess I have to love GW... Or play black crusade.

8/10

I like GW. They're making some silly mistakes, but that's nothing bad. Does anyone remember the iPod Mini?

Anyway, they make a great game, have the best customer service I have ever seen, and are very big in helping out the community. They're not perfect, so 8/10 seems fair.

6/10 should be an 8 but the 'recent' price rises has put me off buying some of the 'one per army' models ie gulavar and carnosaur, I was happy paying 23 or 30 for them but not 30 and 40 (pounds sterling).

always friendly when i visit, trying to sell me stuff don't care there a shop and actually are less persistant than others (ie phone shops), most workers know answers to my questions, finecast, meh I've had problems with all metals I've brought and atleast in the part where they ain't missing fingers easier and faster to fix. Oh and nice models.

6/10

The GW of my youth is gone and will never come back, so all those classic RT Era minis are something that I have to haggle on Ebay for and the feeling that the company is run by people that I might have something in common with if I happened to meet them in a pub is long gone...so boo hoo, nothing is going to change that.

The quality of the sculpts and some of the new areas that GW has diversified into have improved though, for certain. Forge World and the modern Black Library are (pardon the pun) literally worlds apart in stature from the guff that used to pass as GW fiction or specialist minis and kits.

The people on the phones are still great to deal with and some of the staff in the stores have evolved from the cave-dwellers they used to employ.

Better than average, but some of the old spark has just gone.

Oh, and WD is crap.

Im with the OP on this one. I give them a lot o money and really enjoy the hobby aspect of the game, but i also feel like they have dropped the ball a bit of late. Bad codex, bad rules, bad finecast. NOT A perfect ten from me either.

I'll give them one

7/10 for me.

I like GW, but then i just started so all the fluff and what not is new to me.

I knocked them for finecast and prices. I never got to do metals. I didn't start until after finecast but the few models I have seen I've passed on. To be honest they look like they require more skill then i posses at this point in time. I really don't want to pay top price for something that is subpar and requires large amounts of skill to put together without breaking.

I would imagine that at least with metal you had to be a real cluts to break it.

Well GW is def not what it use to be, WD is not what it use to be -1(beating a dead horse), Prices are very high -1(said a 1000 times), Finecast I don't personally like -1 but on the flip side, It easier to get in to 40k and fantasy now than it was 10-15yrs ago +1, you can still purchase older non supported games and collectors miniatures (even though the prices are ridiculous) +.5, good customer service, plus decent online painting articles, and being able to survive and grow when other gaming compaines have simply vanished or failed earns them another +.5 so I rate them a 9/10.

4/10.
WHFB 8th is shocking, 40k is getting real old real fast and the lack of support for other games systems is woeful. The prices are mental, failcost was a complete farce and the lack of sneak peaks is terrible. WD is nowt but a catalogue now, nothing like it was 10-15 years ago.

But, the fluff is ace (bar a certain Mat(t) W), and the books are pretty cool too. This saves GW from being a complete train wreck. This and the fact that 2nd Ed is still viable and awesome fun to play as well.

I'm going 6-7/10. The plastics are awesome, Finecast has been ironed out a bit, and there's a lot of crossover between the codices (according to the leaked Necron fluff) which I like a lot. Makes things feel more unified in 40k. In addition, the video games are better than ever, with Space Marine and Dawn of War II: Retribution. Finally, the BL books have gotten better since Aaron Dembski-Bowden signed on, and he does great work.

On the downside, GW hates Australia, WD is getting a little better but not enough, and the annual price rises suck. Their tight-fisted rumor policy is irritating, but they said at GD during a seminar that it was only a test, and if people didn't like it they'd change.

It's two steps forward and one or two steps back for me. If I was in Australia or elsewhere in the Southern Hemisphere I'd definitely rate them lower.