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Eh. The specialists are still largely optional. They tend to be quite expensive to hire, and aren’t particularly survivable. I’m not sure I’d field them in a starting gang myself.

And hey, they’re still something the GM can outlaw if they so wish.

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 zedmeister wrote:
Yeah, the spiker became a hanger on


Although it can also no longer fly.
   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Well, there are Venator Gangs?

Outside of the main 6 Gangs, I’ve always felt the others are more NPC suited, other than Scavvies and Ratskins.

See, a Chaos or Genestealer Cult is a direct threat to everyone - so to me, it doesn’t make sense the other Gangs wouldn’t just, well, gang up on them. Enforcers likewise. They should be a somewhat OP tool for the GM to unleash when Gangs either start to really misbehave, or otherwise need reining in.


I'm not sure the other gangs are necessarily aware of the threat Chaos or Genestealer cults provide to them to be fair. Indeed, it's somewhat to the interest of both to not pose a huge threat that would attract so much attention until it's time.
   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Eh. The specialists are still largely optional. They tend to be quite expensive to hire, and aren’t particularly survivable. I’m not sure I’d field them in a starting gang myself.

And hey, they’re still something the GM can outlaw if they so wish.


Always such a good feeling, to buy, paint and bring to the table official minis to have them outlawed, yes. I can see that working well.
   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

See, a Chaos or Genestealer Cult is a direct threat to everyone - so to me, it doesn’t make sense the other Gangs wouldn’t just, well, gang up on them. Enforcers likewise. They should be a somewhat OP tool for the GM to unleash when Gangs either start to really misbehave, or otherwise need reining in.

I've seen enough movies where it would be beneficial for the actors to gang up on the bad-guy / biggest threat, yet they don't for <insert plot reason here>, or they do in the last second for the epic final battle.
   
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To be fair, real life is also very much filled with people making terrible decisions.

Otherwise we wouldn't have global warming.

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Or Gang War 1-6!


There's only 1-4
   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
See, a Chaos or Genestealer Cult is a direct threat to everyone - so to me, it doesn’t make sense the other Gangs wouldn’t just, well, gang up on them. Enforcers likewise. They should be a somewhat OP tool for the GM to unleash when Gangs either start to really misbehave, or otherwise need reining in.

Do they even have any idea what these are?

For all they know, one is Cawdor/Delaque like gang with exotic pets and the other is a pack of mutants led by wyrd. Why would they think either is more dangerous than say that Goliath gang next door with a few robo-ogryn allies or Eschers with a pack of stolen ambots?
   
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 Irbis wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
See, a Chaos or Genestealer Cult is a direct threat to everyone - so to me, it doesn’t make sense the other Gangs wouldn’t just, well, gang up on them. Enforcers likewise. They should be a somewhat OP tool for the GM to unleash when Gangs either start to really misbehave, or otherwise need reining in.

Do they even have any idea what these are?

For all they know, one is Cawdor/Delaque like gang with exotic pets and the other is a pack of mutants led by wyrd. Why would they think either is more dangerous than say that Goliath gang next door with a few robo-ogryn allies or Eschers with a pack of stolen ambots?


Thats how i see it also. I dong think other gangs realise that they are chaos/xenos worshippers, bar maybe the cawdor, but they say this about everything, so nobody take them seriously

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Even the concept of the Emperor can be a bit hazy in the deep parts of the Hive.



Also don't forget the Imperium suppresses as much as it can about Xenos and Chaos. So even those gangs that have good ties to the middle and upper regions and trade - eg Escher trade in exotic xenos pets - will only have a scant concept of some things. Tales of Chaos might be "oh that's just old Bill's war stories from when he was a in the Guard before he defected and fled here to hide. We don't really believe all those tall tales of demons.


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The Byzantines were having civil wars with the turks at their borders invading them so the "Lets gang up agaisnt a common foe" isn't as common as people may think even when that common foe is some weird thing specially when you aren't a organized military but a bunch of low scums that only values money.

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Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

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In addition, as mentioned, humans are routinely terrible at putting aside differences to combat a common foe, especially when it is a long term problem that requires sacrificing short term gain to deal with.

Take the example of Christendom's repeated failure to maintain a coordinated front against the muslim world in the medieval era. Or for modern examples, climate change and COVID-19.

"Oi, boss, I know those weird fethers are pretty dangerous and we agreed to go job 'em with the other gangs, but that'll leave our neighbours in the next quadrant unguarded and they raided a guilder caravan last week..."

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A common threat can unite people

However they all have to fundamentally realise the threat for a threat first.

Secondly they then have to agree upon a chosen single or at least supporting pathway to tackling the threat.

Finally we have to consider that its rare that there's only ever 1 threat outside of a story. Reality often presents many multiple challenges over time and that muddies the water. Even if a group identifies a threat, unites over it and agrees upon a chosen pathway, they can still come un stuck when segments of that unity have additional pressures on them which influence and hinder their ability to contribute toward the resolution.

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
I think the pandemic has shown that Alan Moore was too optimistic in thinking a common threat will unite us.


When freaking Alan Moore is too optimistic, you know we're really eff'd.

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
I think the pandemic has shown that Alan Moore was too optimistic in thinking a common threat will unite us.


I'm sure we would be perfectly capable of unity if we just blamed it on some ethnic minority. Now that wouldn't really achieve anything, but we would be kinda united against a common threat we made up.

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Everyone that's not in the group being blamed at least...
   
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In Necromunda, there are plenty of threats for either to be unified against, or double crossing...


We still need some step up rules for the Spyer gangers models, a Genestealer stats, that rampaging Ork Deff Dred, Karloth Valois zombie hordes, The Bloodletter Infestation of one of the meat/ market districts, brought on by the cultists, etc...

Some of the best movies would be great scenarios, such as The Killing, The Good Bad, and the Ugly, Lord Jim, the Godfather, My personal favorite- Apocalypse Now, or even something along the lines of The Warriors...

Then you can always have the old Seven Samurai efforts, against a rogue Guilder, strong-arming the gangs and generally pulling a Keyser Söze on them...


The idea is CONFLICT. The more, the better. Internal, within the gang. External, with other crews, environment, adversary, the environment, etc.



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That cyborg assassin mission conflict is certainly a good example of it.
   
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 Grot 6 wrote:
Spoiler:
In Necromunda, there are plenty of threats for either to be unified against, or double crossing...


We still need some step up rules for the Spyer gangers models, a Genestealer stats, that rampaging Ork Deff Dred, Karloth Valois zombie hordes, The Bloodletter Infestation of one of the meat/ market districts, brought on by the cultists, etc...

Some of the best movies would be great scenarios, such as The Killing, The Good Bad, and the Ugly, Lord Jim, the Godfather, My personal favorite- Apocalypse Now, or even something along the lines of The Warriors...

Then you can always have the old Seven Samurai efforts, against a rogue Guilder, strong-arming the gangs and generally pulling a Keyser Söze on them...


The idea is CONFLICT. The more, the better. Internal, within the gang. External, with other crews, environment, adversary, the environment, etc.

I think we might just incorporate the storyline into our next campaign. Just need to sit down and figure out which gang for which part.

   
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Racerguy180 wrote:
 Grot 6 wrote:
Spoiler:
In Necromunda, there are plenty of threats for either to be unified against, or double crossing...


We still need some step up rules for the Spyer gangers models, a Genestealer stats, that rampaging Ork Deff Dred, Karloth Valois zombie hordes, The Bloodletter Infestation of one of the meat/ market districts, brought on by the cultists, etc...

Some of the best movies would be great scenarios, such as The Killing, The Good Bad, and the Ugly, Lord Jim, the Godfather, My personal favorite- Apocalypse Now, or even something along the lines of The Warriors...

Then you can always have the old Seven Samurai efforts, against a rogue Guilder, strong-arming the gangs and generally pulling a Keyser Söze on them...


The idea is CONFLICT. The more, the better. Internal, within the gang. External, with other crews, environment, adversary, the environment, etc.

I think we might just incorporate the storyline into our next campaign. Just need to sit down and figure out which gang for which part.



Probably the main thing I am excited for when it comes to the Outlaws gang if it is anywhere near as versatile as the articles make it out to be... even if the other players in your group aren't going out of their way to forge a narrative other than just seeing how their gangers develop in a campaign, Outlaws will be forging settlements, telling the tale of a specific Bounty Hunter posse, or seeing legendary heroes making their way to the tabletop in epic gunfights.

Really hoping the book isn't a huge disappointment.
   
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Over/under it's as versatile as the new ork boyz kit. XD
   
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TGG wrote:
Over/under it's as versatile as the new ork boyz kit. XD
That's a pretty low bar.

Personally I'm interested to find out what the trading post actually does. Maybe this is the final nail in the coffin for Gangs of the Underhive, as the Trading Post rules in that are, IIRC, the last thing in that book that has been reprinted/revised elsewhere.

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 Grot 6 wrote:
In Necromunda, there are plenty of threats for either to be unified against, or double crossing...


We still need some step up rules for the Spyer gangers models, a Genestealer stats, that rampaging Ork Deff Dred, Karloth Valois zombie hordes, The Bloodletter Infestation of one of the meat/ market districts, brought on by the cultists, etc...

Some of the best movies would be great scenarios, such as The Killing, The Good Bad, and the Ugly, Lord Jim, the Godfather, My personal favorite- Apocalypse Now, or even something along the lines of The Warriors...

Then you can always have the old Seven Samurai efforts, against a rogue Guilder, strong-arming the gangs and generally pulling a Keyser Söze on them...


The idea is CONFLICT. The more, the better. Internal, within the gang. External, with other crews, environment, adversary, the environment, etc.

There are example Genestealer stats on page 101 of the Book of Ruin.

They're dumb, though. It has WS4+...

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
TGG wrote:
Over/under it's as versatile as the new ork boyz kit. XD
That's a pretty low bar.

Personally I'm interested to find out what the trading post actually does. Maybe this is the final nail in the coffin for Gangs of the Underhive, as the Trading Post rules in that are, IIRC, the last thing in that book that has been reprinted/revised elsewhere.


At this point I'd be surprised if the trading post survives.

"No model, no rules"

GW no longer wants you to pick through IG and marine kits so you can make a ganger with a heavy bolter and power axe, they want to sell complete kits. Which is good because if you buy a kit you should be able to make anything the rules allow, but does stifle options.

 
   
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Well, I'm already playing my 4 gangs only with what's in the box and the upgrade packs. Including FW upgrades though, which allowed me to give a heavy stubber and an heavy bolter to a couple of Goliaths.

But I never consider something like lascannons, missile launchers or long rifles, even if they have good rules. There are still tons of option to choose from.


 
   
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 Blackie wrote:
Well, I'm already playing my 4 gangs only with what's in the box and the upgrade packs. Including FW upgrades though, which allowed me to give a heavy stubber and an heavy bolter to a couple of Goliaths.

But I never consider something like lascannons, missile launchers or long rifles, even if they have good rules. There are still tons of option to choose from.


And a lot of common stuff that's just not there, like lasguns (well, anything at all laser, really). Or autoguns. Basically just... because.

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