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As the title lays out what is every one opinion of the top tier competative army as of now

1. Tau
2. Necron
3. Sisters
4. Chaos
5. Tyranids

Top 5, I think we can all agree on that.

1. Tau
2. Necron
3. Sisters
4. Chaos
5. Tyranids

Dude, you missed out Daemons

Justus wrote:1. Tau
2. Necron
3. Sisters
4. Chaos
5. Tyranids

Top 5, I think we can all agree on that.

I dunno, Sisters would come first if you ask me. Unless those Tau have an Etheral or something.

Tau are bring Aun'va to the field actually, fitted in the Kroot squad for close combat.

1. orks
2. IG
3. tau
4. tyranids
5. GK

lukyboi wrote:1. orks
2. IG
3. tau
4. tyranids
5. GK

Not sure if serious or trolling...

Justus wrote:

lukyboi wrote:1. orks
2. IG
3. tau
4. tyranids
5. GK

Not sure if serious or trolling...

Clearly trolling. 2 of the top 3, 2 of the bottom 3 and one from the middle looks like.

ive won tournaments with orks, IG and nids, GK are mad, and i have a hard time facing tau in the past
(especially playing orks, nids and IG!)

having said that, blood angels have beaten me pretty soundly

but, i play hordes, (as you can probably tell), so the pros and cons listed are maybe my experience

a pure army of daemonettes and slaanesh heralds on foot is the only way to get things done these days, what with the meta game and all that

IG and SW are doing great because they have good units cheap units.

DE if they know what they are doing. And I think that is it.

DPBellathrom wrote:a pure army of daemonettes and slaanesh heralds on foot is the only way to get things done these days, what with the meta game and all that

Totally. Vehicles are just so weak right now. And, transports are basically all unplayable.

IMO, the best army at the moment is the all Penal Legion army for IG. Nothing can stop an entire army that scouts.

1. GKs
2. SW
3. BA
4. IG
5. DE

Obvious question is obvious

Really Tau?

I've done nothing but eat Tau with Nyds and Vanilla SM's

Then again i have maybe 10 games exp tops vs Tau (4 diff players, maybe they were just bad?)

Tau is insane when played well, I assure you. Check out Stelek or Kirby, and you will be enlightened. They just have a steep learning curve.

Orks are also quite competitive, but they're extremely luck based (more so than any other army) so I didn't include them.

lordoooge wrote:As the title lays out what is every one opinion of the top tier competative army as of now

Why? Looking to buy a new army? or just trying to troll? The reason I ask is that it seems everyone who ever asks this has one thing on their mind: competetiveness. And almost every discussion you have started is about just that.

Best army in imo if you wanna have fun is this:(I do bring this to local tourneys...at least ones that no one knows who i am for the lulz)

Company command; bareboned 50

Platoon command with chenkov 80

X5 fully loaded conscripts(250 models in 50 man groups) with "Send in the next wave" 1375

total 1505pts of annoying wave after wave....I win from players not being able to kill enuff of them. In CC these can be still nasty. plus with chenvok I can bring back 100 fully healed groups...If you have the models try this list for pure fun.

Dude, Tau are definitely the top tier army at the moment. By being so poor at close combat, they actually have a pretty significant edge, which is their inability to be locked in multi-turn assaults. Trying to keep a tau unit in assault is like trying to eat soup with a fork. Also, you never have to worry about assaulting enemy units because it's never a good idea, really letting you focus on trying to make the most of the only unit in the codex that can contribute to a victory.

Also, what's incredible about the tau is how many different versatile units they have. Vespids really come in handy as a speed bump. Kroot are really good at being speed bumps. Drone squads are really amazing at being speed bumps. Fire Warriors are fantastic at drawing fire by merit of their being so easy to kill, and in a pinch, they make a great speed bump.

Really though, it's the HQ choices that make the codex so competitive, the etheral is just a powerhouse, so remarkably effective that he actually improves your army by dying, maybe.

Karnac wrote:Really Tau?

I've done nothing but eat Tau with Nyds and Vanilla SM's

Then again i have maybe 10 games exp tops vs Tau (4 diff players, maybe they were just bad?)

They where just bad. Plasma Rifles vs the mareehhnnss and burst canon/sub munitions to hordes.

well i wanted to see what were the armys to beat and see were my Ig army stood, and try to get closed to figuring out what my next army was going to be i was to make a speed freak army but now a suit heavy army is seaming not only challenging but a competative army to play with

It doesn't matter what army you play, it matters how you play it. No army in 40k is "Point and Click".

I've crushed opponents with 3rd Edition pure GK, and with Thunderwolves. All that matters is how well you can play them.

I do understand that about 40k, but i just got back it to it about a month or 2 ago and trying to get a better understanding of how the meta game is right now and be able to compare my performance to what you guys are saying. i play a standered mech guard army(http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/405013.page) any just trying to get better. i played a grey knights army the other night and had a draw and was just trying to figure out what was up with the different armys competativness

Chowderhead wrote:It doesn't matter what army you play, it matters how you play it. No army in 40k is "Point and Click".

Well said. I wish this could or would put a stop to the "what is the bestest army out there?" threads...

Imperial Guard
Grey Knights/Dark Eldar
Space Wolves/Blood Angels
Dark Angels
Black Templars/Vanilla Marines
Orks/CSM
Eldar
Tau/Daemons, unless playing against Grey Knighhts.
Sisters of Battle
Tyranids, unless playing against Necrons with monolithes
Necrons, unless playing against Tyranids with Monolithes

odorofdeath wrote:1. GKs
2. SW
3. BA
4. IG
5. DE

Obvious question is obvious

I'm not sure on the order, but I am not disputing the army choices for top tier armies.

GK, SW, BA, IG and DE would be quite murderous with proper lists (2k) and in the hands of a skilled opponent.

You would definitely want to have one of those armies to face off vs one of these armies.

Honorable mention would be vanilla marines, DA and BT.

imweasel wrote:

odorofdeath wrote:1. GKs
2. SW
3. BA
4. IG
5. DE

Obvious question is obvious

I'm not sure on the order, but I am not disputing the army choices for top tier armies.

GK, SW, BA, IG and DE would be quite murderous with proper lists (2k) and in the hands of a skilled opponent.

You would definitely want to have one of those armies to face off vs one of these armies.

Honorable mention would be vanilla marines, DA and BT.

This, except I'd add Orks to honourable mentions as well. They're still in there, kicking ass and taking teef.

1: Blood angles
2: Space Wolves
3: Imperial Guard
4: Dark Eldar Shared with Death wing Belail
5: SM
6: Tau
7: Tyranids
8: Eldar
9: Chaos SM
10: Orks
11: SoB
12: Necrons

These are the dexes I've met and have sufficient experience with. I've not played GK enough to say if they live up to the super hype.

Nids above Eldar, Orks, and Chaos? Really? And Daemons and Grey Knights not even there?

junk wrote:Dude, Tau are definitely the top tier army at the moment. By being so poor at close combat, they actually have a pretty significant edge, which is their inability to be locked in multi-turn assaults. Trying to keep a tau unit in assault is like trying to eat soup with a fork. Also, you never have to worry about assaulting enemy units because it's never a good idea, really letting you focus on trying to make the most of the only unit in the codex that can contribute to a victory.

Also, what's incredible about the tau is how many different versatile units they have. Vespids really come in handy as a speed bump. Kroot are really good at being speed bumps. Drone squads are really amazing at being speed bumps. Fire Warriors are fantastic at drawing fire by merit of their being so easy to kill, and in a pinch, they make a great speed bump.

Really though, it's the HQ choices that make the codex so competitive, the etheral is just a powerhouse, so remarkably effective that he actually improves your army by dying, maybe.

I actually started to agree with this post, for the most part....
....until it brought up ethereals.

Kroot are pretty good at what they do for what they cost. And the Tau do rely on their HQs/Elites. I agree that aren't bad...they're just hard to use.

We don't really have statistics or a system to properly measure tiers (like in arena wow, or street fighter 4), but this is what I think:

Top tier:
SW Top 3
BA
GK
.
.
.
IG Bit of a drop but still top

Everybody else 2nd tier.

Generally speaking, you can win any tournament with a 2nd tier army if you get good matchups. I only really reserve bottom tier for absolute crap.

So why not DE? Because they lose to IG pretty bad, but right now IG doesn't really lose to anybody. I also feel that DE don't dominate against any of the top armies, so I place them in the 2nd tier.

What's sad is all 4 armies are imperial armies. If you really must have an advantage in 40k, pick an imperial army.

This post is all opinion, and I strongly suggest that you do your own analysis and form your own opinion about what works and what doesn't