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Emboldened Warlock





umea Sweden

So i'm facing IG saturday and neither me nor him have ever played against these armies

This list is built of what i have (can't get more until then sadly...) all i have left is a warwalker (with glued scatters)

Farseer w/RoW, RoWit, Spirit stones, Guide, Doom
145p

10striking scorpions and exarch w/biting blade and shadowstrike
197p

10guardians w/scatter laser, Warlock w/, spear, Embolden
wave serpent w/twin scatter lasers, spirit stones
253p

10guardians w/scatter laser
95p

War Walker w/scatter laser x2
60p
total 750points


So the Farseer will ride in the serpent guiding if they move out to throw the spear, the home guardians drop blasts on the Guardsmen and the Scorpions outflank/infiltrate causing havoc (taking out vehicles or instant deathing characters with the Biting blade). I am considering changing the serpents loadout tho... Not sure if the lance is worth it (not glued ). What could you guys suggest changing using only what i have available. Scatter walker outflank for side shots and general mayham.

Gar'Ang

This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2011/11/08 23:02:22


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HIDING IN METAL BAWKSES!

So this is for a 750 point game right?
If that is all you have, it looks fine. But if you are going for a footdar, in the future I would suggest getting an Avatar, and stick your Guardians next to him without the Serpents. He makes everything within 12" Fearless.

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umea Sweden

That i know^^ planning on getting the Forge World Avatar (or hope for a better one with next Eldar codex^^)

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In general, I wouldn't buy more psychic powers than I can use in a turn. I would drop Eldritch Storm as it has the least utility of the powers you chose.

As to your question about brightlances, I do think the Wave Serpent is one of the few places where they are worth getting. The TL on the Wave serpent means that you have a 75% chance to hit instead of the normal 50% chance BS 3 gives you.

If you can scratch out the 60pts you need for the Scatter Laser War Walker, it could work well for you. 8 Str 6 shots a turn against IG isn't bad at all. If you get side armor, you can pop chimeras easily, and ruin the day of any dismounted infantry. 2+ wound rolls are nothing to sneeze at.
   
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umea Sweden

did you know you can deep strike MC's in planetstrike? It's AWESOME!!! I play Planetstrike with my friend^^


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but how... i could drop the Storm, and downgrade the guardian platforms to scatters and downgrade the t0win lances to scatters too, that would leave me with 50p free... where could i shave those 8points to get a scatterwalker? I really start liking the fought of 5scatters (20shots a turn!) in this list^^

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HIDING IN METAL BAWKSES!

I would do this for the Farseer:
-both RoW
-spirit stones
-Doom and Fortune

That setup comes out to 155 points, and will completely mess up your opponents psychic powers and buff your own.

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Emboldened Warlock





umea Sweden

Should i mention that he is going with an Embolden seer?


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Warlock*


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I've found space for the 8 points! will update OP with new list


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So, dropped one warlock and switch all heavy weapons to scatter lasers, then added spirit stones for wave serpent, RoWit for Farseer and a scatterwalker. Thoughts?

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If your opponent is playing dismounted guard, your list will completely ruin his day.

The only problem I really see is the lack of anti tank. Even the 12 front armor on a Chimera is going to give you trouble, as your Farseer's witchblade is the only real anti tank you have unless Striking Scorpions have something I forgot about. I would almost drop the scorpions in favor of a fire prism or a falcon. Even some more war walkers kitted out for anti tank would be good.

I know this is completely different from what you're running, and you may not have the models for it at all, but I ran this 750pt list earlier today against IG to great success.

HQ
Farseer - RoW, RoWit, SS, Doom, Guide, Witchblade - 145pts

Troops
10x Dire Avengers - exarch, double 'pults, bladestorm - 152pts

10x Dire Avengers - exarch, double 'pults, bladestorm - 152pts

Heavy Support
3x War Walkers - 6x Scatter Lasers - 180pts

Fire Prism - TL Shuriken Catapults - 115pts

Total 744pts

I don't know exactly what the guard list was, but it was something like this

HQ Company Command Squad - stock as far as I knew, no special weapons, standard bearer dude

Troops
Veteran squad - 3x meltaguns, Autocannon team

Veteran squad - 3x meltaguns, Autocannon team

Fast Attack
Scout Sentinel - lascannon

Heavy Support
Leman Russ Vanquisher - Hull mounted Lascannon

If he had taken a regular leman russ instead of the vanquisher, he would have ruined my day, the blast would have obliterated my dismounted Dire Avengers. The single fire prism gives some flexibility in that it can effectively engage tanks and infantry. If you Guide it, you can reroll the scatter as well.
   
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umea Sweden

As i said i have used ALL my models :/ the Biting blade on the scorp exarch gives +1s and an additional +1s for every hit. so 4hits equal s8 in rear armour^^

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I'd see if you couldn't get some missile launchers. Scatter Lasers are great, and I love them, but they are somewhat lacking against the front armor of Chimeras, or Valk / Vendettas.

My friend's 750 IG list looks like this

ccs w/ 4 melta guns- Chimera
vets w/ 3 melta guns- Chimera
vets w/ 3 Plasma Guns- Chimera
Vendetta
Vendetta

rear / side armor may only be 10, but you have a lot of slower moving fire power. Your War Walker can outflank, but you're unsure of when he'll come in, and your serpent is fast enough to do it, but I would seriously consider grabbing some missile launchers so that you can reach out and punch through av 12 if you can't get into side arc.

That said, I really do like the list you have as it is. s6 spam is excellent, and I think even against AV12, between outflanking, and Wave Serpent Speed you'll be able to shoot down his tanks.



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umea Sweden

I'm not sure what he is running, ive seen his 2k list in action and it's not that many transports even though he seems to have a thing for leman russes...

How do you think i could drop 10points so i could add EML's to my guardians?

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