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Maryam Namazie (so a woman, not a MALE potential terrorist, also an ex-muslim atheist that devote a lot of time to fight against Islamism) insist a lot on how religious rights are very similar regardless of whether they are Christian right or Islamist right or whatever religion right.
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
If I can quibble a minor part. Maybe instead of simply saying 'Islam' has a severe problem (as this connotes using a wiiiide brush), maybe clarify by saying "wings like the Wahhabism/Salafi of Islam has a severe problem with radicalism". We're talking about the largest religion in the world that is most definitely not monolistic.
I'll see your quibble with a quibble. Hezbollah and other Shia groups don't fit your narrow parameters.
Eh? "wings like x" should fit... right? Maybe it shouldn't be "wings" be "sect" or "schools"??
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sebster wrote: I know the 70s is like ancient history to most people and I get that. I was born in '79 and it feels like another world to me as well. But even so, to see something like this where someone is just so completely ignorant of the left wing terror groups that operated across Europe still amazes me.
I mean, just know your fething history. fething read.
They belong to the past, I know about these groups of course, in my country the Red Brigades killed a lot of people just a few decades ago. But again, there's nothing like that since decades.
Anyway, another muslim terrorist acted today in our beloved europe. Luckily without completing his mission:
@Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl: I'm a huge feminist and I think women are better than men in almost anything. Males are certainly more violent and aggressive than females, that is for sure. But a lot of women committed acts of evil, if you think women never killed other people you're a fool. And women that contribute to the islamic state are not different than the terrorists themselves, they just have another role, but they are all part of the same world.
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Blackie wrote: But a lot of women committed acts of evil
Acts of evil, sure. But random shooting, or other terror attacks? Not so much…
Anyhow, if you ever happen to want to find balance between opposing Islamism and not becoming a bigoted xenophobe in the process, I highly advise listening a LOT to ex-Muslims, people that often hate Islamic teachings (that state they should be killed) while also having first-hand experience that not all Muslims are bad people (because, well, they didn't suddenly became good people when they lost faith ^^).
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
I've always said that fanatic muslims shouldn't be tolerated, and I think muslims CAN be active part of wealthy society. I know some of them, some born in italy, some actually real immigrants, but all good people that adapted to our society, while remaining muslims. But I've also met some other ones that are nothing good.
Muslims that only want to stay in their own community and live like they were in their country of origin are an issue, even if they don't commit mass murders, because they're the reason why some muslims at a certain moment of their life turn into terrorism.
Women that commit terror attack exists, think about palestinian women that randomly stab israeli soldiers. They are lower in numers of course because men are more aggressive and inclined to violence, but also because men rule or have more power than women in almost every society, especially the less civilized ones, where women can't escape the role that society has imposed to them. Think about police and soldiers, there are many women in them, but the majority of the forces, in any country in the world, is composed by men.
Another issue in having all the illegals get into europe, as more than 90% of them are men.
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Blackie wrote: Muslims that only want to stay in their own community and live like they were in their country of origin are an issue, even if they don't commit mass murders, because they're the reason why some muslims at a certain moment of their life turn into terrorism.
Uh, what?
Blackie wrote: Women that commit terror attack exists, think about palestinian women that randomly stab israeli soldiers.
They exist WAY WAY less than non-Muslim terrorists…
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
Blackie wrote: Muslims that only want to stay in their own community and live like they were in their country of origin are an issue, even if they don't commit mass murders, because they're the reason why some muslims at a certain moment of their life turn into terrorism.
Uh, what?
Blackie wrote: Women that commit terror attack exists, think about palestinian women that randomly stab israeli soldiers.
They exist WAY WAY less than non-Muslim terrorists…
what? there are a lot of muslims that don't want anything to do with western societies, and only live in muslims ghettos, there are even illegal sharia courts in european countries
also policewomen and women soldiers are way way less than policemen and male soldiers...
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We went from the Israeli airstrike on Hezbollah and Assad to drones to battleships with a small stop in nuking North Korea and finally to Islamic terrorism in Europe. All that in the last 5 pages.
People? I think you mean MEN do. As in, MALE humans. How many of those terrorists were MALE?
Just look at the fact buddy. THAT is the real link between all those murders, not religion.
The twin towers? It was 19 terrorists, ALL MALES!
Oklahoma City bombing? It was two MALES!
Boston Marathon bombing? It was two MALES!
This idiot? It was a MALE!
Orlando nightclub shooting? It was a MALE!
The Greensboro massacre? MALES MALES MALES!
The Columbine massacre? MALES I tell you, always MALES!
See, I'm not saying we should literally kill or neuter all MALES, I'm no extremist. I'm just saying MALES need to abandon their habit of shooting innocent people, and properly integrate into civilized society. If they continue to show that they can't do that, we need to send them all to protection camps, where they will be kept safe from harming themselves and others at the small cost of a loss of liberty. I mean, if they can't stop killing people for no good reason well it's on them ain't it?
But I guess as a MALE yourself you are too biased and emotional to accept these facts. Or you are just pro-random shooting maybe?
Inconvenient facts are inconvenient .
Women in islamic countries are basically slaves, that's why the isis fighters are all male. Males in general are more aggressive, that is true, but there were a lot of women terrorists too, think about nigeria, a lot of kamikaze woman there or just palestinians girls that stabbed soldiers and than they went gunned down.
And that's another problem: over 90% of the illegals are males, they can't create a family or have a future here, that's another reason why many of them turn into criminals before, and into terrorists later.
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AlmightyWalrus wrote: Jo Cox wasn't murdered by a Muslim. Anders Behring Breivik wasn't a Muslim. You're a liar, plain and simple. There's no benefit of the doubt, you'd have to have been living under a rock to miss those two events in particular.
Yes ONE guy in scandinavian countries in history... how many eritreans murder sweden people for example? I remember mother and son at ikea or that girl killed by a fake minor.... joe cox was murdered because far rights powers are rising, and that's because we're allowing savages to live here as the barbarians they are.
As I always said it's not a matter of religion, it's a matter of cultures. Christians used to burn people alive not that many time ago, did christian religion changed since then? No, societies changed. Why is considered wrong to think that muslims that want to live like they were in their country shouldn't change?
You said that everyone who does something like this is a Muslim, which is a lie. Then you seem to be under the impression that people are taking exception to you wanting Muslims to integrate, when we're reacting to you being a dishonest liar. Yes, there is a huge issue with extremist Islam and terrorism. We can't even start trying to solve it while people like you insist on making up stuff about the situation. You're only making the whole situation worse.
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You said that everyone who does something like this is a Muslim, which is a lie. Then you seem to be under the impression that people are taking exception to you wanting Muslims to integrate, when we're reacting to you being a dishonest liar. Yes, there is a huge issue with extremist Islam and terrorism. We can't even start trying to solve it while people like you insist on making up stuff about the situation. You're only making the whole situation worse.
Maybe I wasn't clear:
EVERY terrorist in europe is a muslim or a person that comes from a muslim country or a european with origins from a muslim country.
Not every muslim is a terrorist though, and not every muslim is an extremist.
And yes any society has murderers, but people like breivik are one of a kind, people like the london attacker (and the antwerp one) are becoming extremely common.
The problem in dealing with terrorism is the fact that goverments (and many people too) don't want to accept that islamic extremists are not only the terroists, but also a lot of common citizens that dream to recreate muslims societies in europe. Not accepting that a lot of muslims hate our society is a huge issue and ignoring that issue is one of the reason that terrorist attacks will continue, and racism will grow. With a mentality like this, sorry if I repeat myself, we're only giving more strength to both terrorism and far right leaders. A country like sweden for example in the name of political correctness closes its eyes everyday, it also allowed a nazi march:
You said that everyone who does something like this is a Muslim, which is a lie. Then you seem to be under the impression that people are taking exception to you wanting Muslims to integrate, when we're reacting to you being a dishonest liar. Yes, there is a huge issue with extremist Islam and terrorism. We can't even start trying to solve it while people like you insist on making up stuff about the situation. You're only making the whole situation worse.
Maybe I wasn't clear:
EVERY terrorist in europe is a muslim or a person that comes from a muslim country or a european with origins from a muslim country.
Not every muslim is a terrorist though, and not every muslim is an extremist.
The problem in dealing with terrorism is the fact that goverments (and many people too) don't want to accept that islamic extremists are not only the terroists, but also a lot of common citizens that dream to recreate muslims societies in europe. Not accepting that a lot of muslims hate our society is a huge issue and ignoring that issue is one of the reason that terrorist attacks will continue, and racism will grow. With a mentality like this, sorry if I repeat myself, we're only giving more strength to both terrorism and far right leaders. A country like sweden for example in the name of political correctness close its eyes, it also allowed a nazi march:
Every terrorist, except all the non-muslim ones pointed out to you hours earlier, that you tried to hand-wave away. There is a fundamental (see what i did there?) disconnect between reality and your version of it. Sad!
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You said that everyone who does something like this is a Muslim, which is a lie. Then you seem to be under the impression that people are taking exception to you wanting Muslims to integrate, when we're reacting to you being a dishonest liar. Yes, there is a huge issue with extremist Islam and terrorism. We can't even start trying to solve it while people like you insist on making up stuff about the situation. You're only making the whole situation worse.
Maybe I wasn't clear:
EVERY terrorist in europe is a muslim or a person that comes from a muslim country or a european with origins from a muslim country.
Not every muslim is a terrorist though, and not every muslim is an extremist.
The problem in dealing with terrorism is the fact that goverments (and many people too) don't want to accept that islamic extremists are not only the terroists, but also a lot of common citizens that dream to recreate muslims societies in europe. Not accepting that a lot of muslims hate our society is a huge issue and ignoring that issue is one of the reason that terrorist attacks will continue, and racism will grow. With a mentality like this, sorry if I repeat myself, we're only giving more strength to both terrorism and far right leaders. A country like sweden for example in the name of political correctness close its eyes, it also allowed a nazi march:
Every terrorist, except all the non-muslim ones pointed out to you hours earlier, that you tried to hand-wave away. There is a fundamental (see what i did there?) disconnect between reality and your version of it. Sad!
But where? In europe, usa, australia, north africa, middle east countries all terrorist attacks were committed by muslims. Breivik is one a kind and israel is actually at war with palestinians, that is not terrorism, is defending their country (even if it should never existed).
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sebster wrote: I know the 70s is like ancient history to most people and I get that. I was born in '79 and it feels like another world to me as well. But even so, to see something like this where someone is just so completely ignorant of the left wing terror groups that operated across Europe still amazes me.
I mean, just know your fething history. fething read.
They belong to the past, I know about these groups of course, in my country the Red Brigades killed a lot of people just a few decades ago. But again, there's nothing like that since decades.
In my country the left wing basque nationalist group Euskadi Ta Askatasuna commited their last terror attack in 2009. They were active from 1958 (when Franco) until 2011, when they abandoned their armed activity, and they have issued a statement that they will give in their weapons to an international organisation by the end of 2017.
Is 2009 decades ago?
They were also blamed for the Madrid train bombings, but that's becaus our government didn't want to admit how stupid an idea it was to join Bush and Blair's little camping on the Middle East.
Then there is Resistencia Galega, another nationalist group which blows something up from time to time although mostly stuff (offices, police buildings, etc...) and not people. These haven't surrendered yet.
You said that everyone who does something like this is a Muslim, which is a lie. Then you seem to be under the impression that people are taking exception to you wanting Muslims to integrate, when we're reacting to you being a dishonest liar. Yes, there is a huge issue with extremist Islam and terrorism. We can't even start trying to solve it while people like you insist on making up stuff about the situation. You're only making the whole situation worse.
Maybe I wasn't clear:
EVERY terrorist in europe is a muslim or a person that comes from a muslim country or a european with origins from a muslim country.
Not every muslim is a terrorist though, and not every muslim is an extremist.
The problem in dealing with terrorism is the fact that goverments (and many people too) don't want to accept that islamic extremists are not only the terroists, but also a lot of common citizens that dream to recreate muslims societies in europe. Not accepting that a lot of muslims hate our society is a huge issue and ignoring that issue is one of the reason that terrorist attacks will continue, and racism will grow. With a mentality like this, sorry if I repeat myself, we're only giving more strength to both terrorism and far right leaders. A country like sweden for example in the name of political correctness close its eyes, it also allowed a nazi march:
Every terrorist, except all the non-muslim ones pointed out to you hours earlier, that you tried to hand-wave away. There is a fundamental (see what i did there?) disconnect between reality and your version of it. Sad!
But where? In europe, usa, australia, north africa, middle east countries all terrorist attacks were committed by muslims. Breivik is one a kind and israel is actually at war with palestinians, that is not terrorism, is defending their country (even if it should never existed).
You don't get to handwave away facts that contradict your claims. Breivik was hardly unique, we had a guy in Sweden who went after immigrants and shot them because they were immigrants and another that thought attacking immigrant kids at a school with a sword was a good plan. Again, Jo Cox wasn't killed by a Muslim and the guy kicked to death in Finland by Neo-Nazis wasn't either. The only way of making all terror attacks in Europe have been perpetrated by Muslims is to a priori have decided to define "terrorism" in such a way that only Muslum terror attacks can qualify. We aren't going to solve the issues existing if we start from the assumption that only Muslims do this kind of act, because it's blatantly not true.
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Tyran wrote: The problem with the ghettos is that there is no real way to break them because freedom of movement is a thing, and we want it to stay being a thing.
A good point, and ofc it's not just the movement of immigrants - those natives that can afford it often move away if they think too many shady-looking foreigners come to live in their neighborhood. Then the only natives left are poorer people, basically the group that might be of the opinion that these foreigners are taking their jobs...
And people natural seek people that they are familiar with. Almost every case of immigration involves the formation of ghettos, because people like living with similar people.
Blackie wrote: But where? In europe, usa, australia, north africa, middle east countries all terrorist attacks were committed by muslims. Breivik is one a kind and israel is actually at war with palestinians, that is not terrorism, is defending their country (even if it should never existed).
Here's something to read for you (some may be duplicates as I googled loosely to find the stuff). You just have to look for it :/
Holger Munch, the president of Germany’s Federal Criminal Police Office, known as Bundeskriminalamt or BKA, revealed 45 fires have been started at centres that house refugees in less than five months.
The country, which has led the humanitarian response to the refugee crisis, has recorded 222 attacks on homes but only a five-per-cent conviction rate.
Government statistics reveal that last year there were about 1,000 such attacks, five times the number reported in 2014.
Just a few weeks ago a hand grenade was thrown into the grounds of a shelter. The pin had been pulled but the device did not explode.
There were 3,533 attacks on refugees and refugee hostels across Germany last year, the Funke Media Group reported on Sunday.
The attacks left 560 people injured, among them 43 children, according to an Interior Ministry response to a parliamentary question cited by the media group.
Out of the attacks, almost three quarters targeted refugees outside of their accommodations. Another 988 attacks were carried out on refugee housing, a slight drop from 2015.
Blackie wrote: Muslims that only want to stay in their own community and live like they were in their country of origin are an issue, even if they don't commit mass murders, because they're the reason why some muslims at a certain moment of their life turn into terrorism.
Uh, what?
Blackie wrote: Women that commit terror attack exists, think about palestinian women that randomly stab israeli soldiers.
They exist WAY WAY less than non-Muslim terrorists…
And Right wing terrorists exist WAY WAY less than Muslim terrorists...
Tyran wrote: The problem with the ghettos is that there is no real way to break them because freedom of movement is a thing, and we want it to stay being a thing.
A good point, and ofc it's not just the movement of immigrants - those natives that can afford it often move away if they think too many shady-looking foreigners come to live in their neighborhood. Then the only natives left are poorer people, basically the group that might be of the opinion that these foreigners are taking their jobs...
Tyran wrote: And people natural seek people that they are familiar with. Almost every case of immigration involves the formation of ghettos, because people like living with similar people.
These all sound like convincing arguments against mass immigration...
Divided societies where people live in their own isolated communities and cultures are not peaceful societies. If anything, the events of the past decade in Europe have proven that. If divisive ghettoization is a natural consequence of mass immigration, that does nothing to endear me to the idea.
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And Right wing terrorists exist WAY WAY less than Muslim terrorists...
So I guess that's your way of saying we should really address the very real MALE problem that we have?
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
And Right wing terrorists exist WAY WAY less than Muslim terrorists...
So I guess that's your way of saying we should really address the very real MALE problem that we have?
Do you have an actual point here or are you still just trolling?
Isn't the point obvious? The lowest common denominator beyond the perpetrators being human is that they are all male, not that they are all Muslim. There's a massive outcry against Muslims, but use the same rhetoric against men and the tune changes very quickly.
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Thanks Walrus, it's definitely something like this ^^.
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Shadow Captain Edithae wrote: He's comparing a group of people with shared values and beliefs to a group of people with shared genitalia.
So how do you explain the statistics? Can't be a coincidence with such numbers…
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
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