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We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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Why is it hollywood is determined to destroy everything I enjoyed as a child?
Waiting for a live action Robotech movie to cap it all.
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Thanks to reds8n for posting the wiki link because I had no clue what this was about. I thought it was a movie based on the Gor books but I didn't see any hot slaves or women getting slapped around so it can't be Gor.
It looked like some nice SFx on the trailer. And if Kween wants to see it, I don't just on general principal. [/sarcasm]
They should have called it "John Carter and the Princess of Mars". "John Carter" sounds like a film about a provincial jewellery shop.
Sophisticated, philosophical, classy and understated, is everything the original Barsoom books are not.
It's a wham, bam, rollercoaster ride of rip-roaring pulp SF romance of the old school, filled with swashbuckling sword play, radium rifles, aerial ships, weird beasts, slaves, comradeship, treachery, cults, combat and horrible death right, left and centre.
Let's hope the film can live up to the literature.
Kilkrazy wrote:They should have called it "John Carter and the Princess of Mars". "John Carter" sounds like a film about a provincial jewellery shop.
I half agree with this...I think just the name "John Carter" isn't that good, but I think it'll sell better than "John Carter and the Princess of Mars"...I bet most people haven't heard of the series (I honestly never heard of it till last night when a friend showed me the trailer), and the latter title sounds kind of cheesy in this age. I think the producers think that just "John Carter" sounds mysterious/vague, and will bring more people in.
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Still, advertising is supposed to sort out that kind of problem. The initial trailer seems only to be playing well with people who know the novels, though.
Kilkrazy wrote:John "Get" Carter "The Unstoppable Sex Machine".
Still, advertising is supposed to sort out that kind of problem. The initial trailer seems only to be playing well with people who know the novels, though.
Which is actually a good thing, IMO. It's Disney's way of saying "Look, we know we took your favorite property and made a movie. Here you are. You like it, right?".
Kilkrazy wrote:They should have called it "John Carter and the Princess of Mars". "John Carter" sounds like a film about a provincial jewellery shop.
Sophisticated, philosophical, classy and understated, is everything the original Barsoom books are not.
It's a wham, bam, rollercoaster ride of rip-roaring pulp SF romance of the old school, filled with swashbuckling sword play, radium rifles, aerial ships, weird beasts, slaves, comradeship, treachery, cults, combat and horrible death right, left and centre.
Let's hope the film can live up to the literature.
This. I grew up with these. They're awesome. Don't forget cliffhangers! Classic pulp cliffhangers, where the hero is mere feet from saving the princess/giving the villain his comeuppance before the dastardly coward slips away, forcing pursuit across another continent and through more hordes of bad guys.
The first trailer was pretty great; the visuals are mostly excellent, and the song as performed by Peter Gabriel gave me chills. The Earth scenes looked amazing, and I really appreciate that they're keeping it in-period. That said, some of the combat/alien visuals seem a little derivative of Avatar and other recent works, and the dialogue wasn't blowing me away. The new trailer makes the Green Martians look a bit better, though. Carter's dialogue/accent seemed a little off, though. He should be a little more educated and polished; Virginia "nobility", not a hick.
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Given that this is done by Disney, I have little hope for it.
The books feature nearly naked people galore (Martians have little use for clothes, and even less for shame) and dead bodies all over. The title character supposedly brings new heights of swordplay to Mars, not only from his great (on Mars) strenght but his skill as well.
Disney... isn't exactly known for dealing with these two things well. We're much more likely to get a kiddiefied version with Carter bopping people over the head rather than finishing them off, and more clothes than Queen Victoria.
Edit: Well, at least they didn't 'cute and fluffy' Woola...
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Production/post by Pixar. The more involvement they have with it the happier I am.
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Looks like a mildly entertaining, if forgettable popcorn flick. What I want is a series of movies based on the Icewind Dale trilogy, or Memory, Sorrow and Thorn by Tad Williams, or perhaps even an epic series of seven or eight movies that cover Battletech history from the Clan invasion all the way to Operation Serpent. That would be so awesome they would have to build more theaters to accommodate all the people. (All 3D+Imax with extra loud THX sound thank you!)
None of those books are as good as Burroughs' Mars books.
Now if you said the Stackpole Battletech books, I might be there with you.
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Vulcan wrote:The books feature nearly naked people galore (Martians have little use for clothes, and even less for shame) and dead bodies all over. The title character supposedly brings new heights of swordplay to Mars, not only from his great (on Mars) strenght but his skill as well.
The lack of extensive clothing was never a key part of the story, though. It was just a part of setting the scene, and establishing a different culture. The idea of people running about nearly naked is not nearly as shocking these days as it was a hundred years ago, so it's really not necessary unless you're just going to see it for boobies.
Besides, Burroughs never really goes into a lot of detail on the actual clothing. Describing someone as being practically nude due to wearing nothing more than a leather harness, from the point of view of a Victorian-era gentleman, doesn't necessarily mean quite what it means to someone today. As a teenager I always took it as meaning they were wearing little more than a couple of belts with pouches hanging off them... an idea reinforced by the novel cover art. But you could cover quite a bit of someone with leather and still have a bloke of John Carter's era consider them to be 'practically naked'.
I'm also not too worried about Disnified violence. Good choreography and camera work does far more to make an action movie entertaining than buckets of blood.
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