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**Frazzled**

9 arrests in wild Staten Island incident, as unruly crowd overruns cops, police say

Enlarge Michael Oates Emergency officials spray a hose, after being summoned to control a crowd in front of 83 Harbor Rd. in Mariners Harbor. (Staten Island Advance/Michael Oates)

Emergency officials called to control crowd in Mariners Harbor gallery (9 photos)

STATEN ISLAND, N.Y. -- Firefighters came to the rescue of two police officers outnumbered in Mariners Harbor today, in a scene so chaotic that New York’s Bravest employed a truck-mounted deluge gun -- a water cannon -- to fend off the marauding group of teens.

The scene unfolded at about 3:30 p.m. in front of 83 Harbor Rd., where a large group of teenagers had amassed to confront a teenage girl who lives in the residence.

By the time it was over, two officers were sent to Richmond University Medical Center, West Brighton, for treatment, and nine teens ended up under arrest, said Inspector John Denesopolis, the 120th Precinct's commanding officer. Police also recovered a starter pistol, he said.

The officers were OK, but "banged up," Denesopolis said.

"It was chaos," said one neighbor, who lives across the street but declined to give his name, stating that he feared retaliation. "The yelling got louder and louder and louder... There was probably 50 to 55 kids out here, and they were challenging one girl."

The group was threatening the girl, yelling at her to come out and fight, witnesses told the Advance. That sparked calls to 911, and two officers, one male, the other female, arrived at the scene.

The male officer attempted to arrest a member of the crowd, and the teens turned on him, knocking him to the ground.

"The kids were on top of the cop while the cop was arresting the first person," the neighbor said.

When his female partner tried to intervene, witnesses said, she was knocked down as well. As she was being attacked, she shouted for assistance on her police radio.

9 arrests in wild Staten Island incident, as crowd overruns cops, police say

Firefighters used a water cannon to break up a wild scene on Harbor Road, blasting a marauding group of teens that were attacking two police officers who had been knocked to the ground, according to witnesses and police.
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"Both police officers were on the ground," said another neighbor, who also requested anonymity. "The kids were attacking them."

The scene happened just a few houses down from the FDNY's Mariners Harbor-based Engine Co. 158. The truck got to the street within moments, witnesses said, and blasted the teens with the engine's cannon-shaped deluge gun to disperse the crowd, according to witnesses. A large police presence, including an NYPD helicopter, soon followed, chasing the teens down to make several arrests.

Denesopolis praised the quick response of the firefighters, saying that he thanked the firehouse brass personally.

"They were very helpful," he said. "They were the closest emergency unit on the scene."

The crowd went to the girl's house because her mother had kept her home from Port Richmond High School for the past five days because of a bullying situation, according to Denesopolis.

"It escalated today when they came to her," he said.

The girl, who identified herself as a sophomore at the school, said the incident escalated from a "he-said, she-said" over picking sides in a gang dispute at school.

"They were waiting for me since Thursday. They wanted to get me for a he-said, she-said. They kept on calling," she said, and when the group arrived at her doorstep, they were carrying "guns, blades and knives."

The girl has a heart condition, relatives said, and at one point, one of the teens taunted her by saying, "We're gonna punch you in the chest. We're gonna fix your heart condition."

As of this afternoon, police had not released the names of the nine arrested, though they'll likely face weapon and felony assault charges, police said.

**Ma55ter_fett**

Teens got their just deserts by the sound of it.

**daedalus**

Christ, WTF is wrong with the kids these days?

**Rented Tritium**

daedalus wrote:Christ, WTF is wrong with the kids these days?

They're getting caught and it's making the news.

In the old days, they got back in their pickups and rode off because their parents knew the sheriff. In the old days, the girl didn't make it out unscathed.

**Jihadin**

So drinking coffee...sssssoooooooo drinking my coffee.....wwoooosshhhhaaaaaaa

**mega_bassist**

daedalus wrote:Christ, WTF is wrong with the kids these days?

Parents don't properly discipline them anymore? Nor do they provide them with enough attention/affection, instead they rely on the TV and computer to entertain/teach their kids.

**Rented Tritium**

Siiiiigh.

You can't have a thread about anything without everyone talking about how much better things used to be.

Kids used to participate in lynchings, but I mean yes, let's just completely ignore that so we can have talk about how bad kids these days are and how bad parenting is etc etc.

It's not like we've been having the exact same conversation for hundreds of years or anything.

**Easy E**

Rented Tritium wrote:Kids used to participate in lynchings,

Well to be fair, so did the parents.

This was an attempted lynching without the parents, and hence WRONG!

Now, it the parents had been supervising, it would be okay.

**daedalus**

Rented Tritium wrote:Siiiiigh.

You can't have a thread about anything without everyone talking about how much better things used to be.

Kids used to participate in lynchings, but I mean yes, let's just completely ignore that so we can have talk about how bad kids these days are and how bad parenting is etc etc.

It's not like we've been having the exact same conversation for hundreds of years or anything.

Nah, you misunderstand. What they were doing isn't the part that shocks me. I expect kids to act like they're little more than animals. The part that is terrifying to me is that there were "50 to 55" of them. I'm just shocked they were all able to focus their attention spans in the same direction for that long.

**Chowderhead**

Damn kids!

Get off her lawn!

**Mr Hyena**

These kids should get the book thrown at them. Then thrown at them again. Then again. Make an example out of them, to show that this behaviour isn't tolerated.

**daedalus**

Mr Hyena wrote:These kids should get the book thrown at them. Then thrown at them again. Then again. Make an example out of them, to show that this behaviour isn't tolerated.

Throwing the book at first offender kids is so 20th century. I think we should start throwing the kids at the books.

**Kanluwen**

daedalus wrote:
Mr Hyena wrote:These kids should get the book thrown at them. Then thrown at them again. Then again. Make an example out of them, to show that this behaviour isn't tolerated.

Throwing the book at first offender kids is so 20th century. I think we should start throwing the kids at the books.

Do we actually know it's "first offender kids"? From the article's wording, it sounds like there's gang ties--and gang ties in teens usually is accompanied by more than one offense.

**Rented Tritium**

daedalus wrote:
Rented Tritium wrote:Siiiiigh.

You can't have a thread about anything without everyone talking about how much better things used to be.

Kids used to participate in lynchings, but I mean yes, let's just completely ignore that so we can have talk about how bad kids these days are and how bad parenting is etc etc.

It's not like we've been having the exact same conversation for hundreds of years or anything.

Nah, you misunderstand. What they were doing isn't the part that shocks me. I expect kids to act like they're little more than animals. The part that is terrifying to me is that there were "50 to 55" of them. I'm just shocked they were all able to focus their attention spans in the same direction for that long.

Well that IS something that has changed. Kids have better networking now. Texting is VERY efficient.

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Mr Hyena wrote:These kids should get the book thrown at them. Then thrown at them again. Then again. Make an example out of them, to show that this behaviour isn't tolerated.

daedalus wrote:
Mr Hyena wrote:These kids should get the book thrown at them. Then thrown at them again. Then again. Make an example out of them, to show that this behaviour isn't tolerated.

Throwing the book at first offender kids is so 20th century. I think we should start throwing the kids at the books.

Both of these actually.

Throwing the book means they miss school and become TOTAL wastes of flesh later in life, but being nice means they do it again.

The trick is to give them a SERIOUS punishment that doesn't interfere with school at all. Forced front-row seating in every class. Special uniforms. That sort of thing. Then outside of school, you can give them the normal sorts of things.

**bombboy1252**

...kids are dumb..........

**kronk**

The male officer attempted to arrest a member of the crowd, and the teens turned on him, knocking him to the ground.

"The kids were on top of the cop while the cop was arresting the first person," the neighbor said.

When his female partner tried to intervene, witnesses said, she was knocked down as well. As she was being attacked, she shouted for assistance on her police radio.

They attacked police officers, knocked them to the ground and continued attacking them.

"They were waiting for me since Thursday. They wanted to get me for a he-said, she-said. They kept on calling," she said, and when the group arrived at her doorstep, they were carrying "guns, blades and knives."

They came armed to the girls home to inflict bodily harm on her.

These aren't kids. These are gang members. You expell them from school. You lock them up in prison.

**Melissia**

The scene unfolded at about 3:30 p.m. in front of 83 Harbor Rd., where a large group of teenagers had amassed to confront a teenage girl who lives in the residence.

Man, that girl must have given someone an awesome sick burn to get that kind of response.

**daedalus**

Yeah, I which we could find out what she did to elicit such a response. It must have been the kind of thing bards would sing about.

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Also, I keep reading your sig, and I find it jarring to keep mentally replacing "Melissia" with "Raven". Just remember, he lost in the end.

**Melissia**

daedalus wrote:Also, I keep reading your sig, and I find it jarring to keep mentally replacing "Melissia" with "Raven". Just remember, he lost in the end.

I know, but it's still a great quote.

**daedalus**

That I will not argue.

**Cannerus_The_Unbearable**

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**ShumaGorath**

daedalus wrote:Christ, WTF is wrong with the kids these days?

Kids used to whip eachother with belts that had razors attached to them then went off to shoot a black guy once they were done having their leather jacket street brawl. Teens are fethed up donkey-caves sometimes and always have been.

**CT GAMER**

Who shows up and sees a mob of 50 angry people calling for blood and doesn't immediately call for backup or the riot squad?

**Melissia**

Not that girl for sure. She wasn't dumb enough to go out there.

**AustonT**

CT GAMER wrote:Who shows up and sees a mob of 50 angry people calling for blood and doesn't immediately call for backup or the riot squad?

Where is Pike when you need him! THIS is what that bad ass orange spray is for: burn their deviant eyes out!

**daedalus**

That's a good point. This is NY. You have a bunch of "smelly hippies", as some would call them, shouting "Damn the man!" and you get all kinds of macing and dragging people off. On the other hand, you have a full out gang of people trying to assault an individual, and you get two police officers who have to depend upon a nearby fire department to keep themselves from getting shived.

THIS is exactly the time where I'm fine with seeing the overwhelming force. THIS is where you bust out your ultrasonic cannons, pepper spray, and jumper cables attached to golf cart batteries.

**Ensis Ferrae**

daedalus wrote:That's a good point. This is NY. You have a bunch of "smelly hippies", as some would call them, shouting "Damn the man!" and you get all kinds of macing and dragging people off. On the other hand, you have a full out gang of people trying to assault an individual, and you get two police officers who have to depend upon a nearby fire department to keep themselves from getting shived.

THIS is exactly the time where I'm fine with seeing the overwhelming force. THIS is where you bust out your ultrasonic cannons, pepper spray, and jumper cables attached to golf cart batteries.

I'm more a fan of the "Israeli Tactic" the gang was armed with 50-55 people, knives and guns.. the Police should show up with SWAT carrying guns in place of knives, and bigger guns in place of guns

Darwinism at its best I think.

**Frazzled**

CT GAMER wrote:Who shows up and sees a mob of 50 angry people calling for blood and doesn't immediately call for backup or the riot squad?

Manly men!

**CT GAMER**

Frazzled wrote:
CT GAMER wrote:Who shows up and sees a mob of 50 angry people calling for blood and doesn't immediately call for backup or the riot squad?

Manly men!

I'm assuming that with 50 teenagers present at least one of them filmed his ass-whupping and posted it to youtube...