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2011/12/22 19:21:36
Subject: Finally, Homosexuals Apologize for their Immoral Agenda.
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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And without even a hint of sarcasm!
An Open Apology to Amy Koch on Behalf of All Gay and Lesbian Minnesotans
Dear Ms. Koch,
On behalf of all gays and lesbians living in Minnesota, I would like to wholeheartedly apologize for our community's successful efforts to threaten your traditional marriage. We are ashamed of ourselves for causing you to have what the media refers to as an "illicit affair" with your staffer, and we also extend our deepest apologies to him and to his wife. These recent events have made it quite clear that our gay and lesbian tactics have gone too far, affecting even the most respectful of our society.
We apologize that our selfish requests to marry those we love has cheapened and degraded traditional marriage so much that we caused you to stray from your own holy union for something more cheap and tawdry. And we are doubly remorseful in knowing that many will see this as a form of sexual harassment of a subordinate.
It is now clear to us that if we were not so self-focused and myopic, we would have been able to see that the time you wasted diligently writing legislation that would forever seal the definition of marriage as being between one man and one woman, could have been more usefully spent reshaping the legal definition of "adultery."
Forgive us. As you know, we are not church-going people, so we are unable to fully appreciate that "gay marriage" is incompatible with Christian values, despite the fact that those values carry a biblical tradition of adultery such as yours. We applaud you for keeping that tradition going.
And finally, shame on us for thinking that marriage is a private affair, and that our marriage would have little impact on anyone's family. We now see that marriage is more than that. It is an agreement with society. We should listen to the Minnesota Family Council when it tells us that marriage is about being public, which explains why marriages are public ceremonies. Never did we realize that it is exactly because of this societal agreement that the entire world is looking at you in shame and disappointment instead of minding its own business.
From the bottom of our hearts, we ask that you please accept our apology.
Thank you.
John Medeiros
Minneapolis MN
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2011/12/22 20:49:45
Subject: Finally, Homosexuals Apologize for their Immoral Agenda.
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Ouch! That's a damn caustic letter...
Anyone wanna fill me in on what's going on with this Amy Koch lady? And why is she so deserving of such a scathing letter? Cheers. 
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2011/12/22 20:54:41
Subject: Re:Finally, Homosexuals Apologize for their Immoral Agenda.
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Wow. That letter demonstrates a level of mastery over the subtle art of sarcasm that I can only hope and pray to someday achieve. And I am not being sarcastic about that either.
It is a masterpiece. 
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2011/12/22 20:59:40
Subject: Re:Finally, Homosexuals Apologize for their Immoral Agenda.
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Fixture of Dakka
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That rocks!
I'm standing and clapping, seriously!
@Vulcan
http://www.twincities.com/ci_19595040
She's apparently been oposed to LGBT issues being Republican.
So they took a(deserved) shot at her.
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"Little angel go away
Come again some other day
The devil has my ear today
I'll never hear a word you say" Weak and Powerless - APC
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2011/12/22 21:16:19
Subject: Finally, Homosexuals Apologize for their Immoral Agenda.
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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Its piss funny that they care so much about marriage, but nothing else.
They don't go on the TV and say "Noshing random strangers off in the lavatory at your local cinema is a bad thing" but they harp on and on and on about the big M.
fethers like her and .. that Kardashian bint with her 20 day marriages are doing far more damage to the "sanctity" than two random blokes who live with each other.
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2011/12/22 21:16:45
Subject: Re:Finally, Homosexuals Apologize for their Immoral Agenda.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Yeah, I kinda figured that.
Why single me out?
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2011/12/22 21:28:22
Subject: Re:Finally, Homosexuals Apologize for their Immoral Agenda.
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Vulcan wrote:Yeah, I kinda figured that.
Why single me out?
I'm thinking it was actually meant for Sarpedons as he asked what the story was that prompted the apology.
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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2011/12/22 21:39:40
Subject: Finally, Homosexuals Apologize for their Immoral Agenda.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Amy Koch proposed an amendmen to the MN state constitution to recognize marriage as only between a man and woman.
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2011/12/22 21:55:59
Subject: Re:Finally, Homosexuals Apologize for their Immoral Agenda.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Vulcan wrote:Yeah, I kinda figured that.
Why single me out?
Because you looked confused and i thought i'd name drop too?!
(Or i'm an idiot and meant to post Sarpedons as Ahtman pointed out!)
It's the Internet, who you going to believe?
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"Little angel go away
Come again some other day
The devil has my ear today
I'll never hear a word you say" Weak and Powerless - APC
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2011/12/22 23:02:12
Subject: Re:Finally, Homosexuals Apologize for their Immoral Agenda.
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Vulcan wrote:.
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Wow. That letter demonstrates a level of mastery over the subtle art of sarcasm that I can only hope and pray to someday achieve. And I am not being sarcastic about that either.
It is a masterpiece.
I agree.
It's....
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Beautiful....
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2011/12/22 23:06:32
Subject: Finally, Homosexuals Apologize for their Immoral Agenda.
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I hope that, whenever she read that letter, she felt some acid reflux building up.
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2011/12/22 23:16:22
Subject: Finally, Homosexuals Apologize for their Immoral Agenda.
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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Go Minnesota.
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2011/12/22 23:25:31
Subject: Finally, Homosexuals Apologize for their Immoral Agenda.
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Infiltrating Hawwa'
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Doesn't seem much more than a personal attack to me. I can think of better ways of disagreeing with someone than personal attacks.
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2011/12/22 23:26:46
Subject: Finally, Homosexuals Apologize for their Immoral Agenda.
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Necroshea wrote:Doesn't seem much more than a personal attack to me. I can think of better ways of disagreeing with someone than personal attacks.
It's not the content, but the delivery on this one.
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2011/12/22 23:27:28
Subject: Re:Finally, Homosexuals Apologize for their Immoral Agenda.
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2011/12/22 23:32:20
Subject: Finally, Homosexuals Apologize for their Immoral Agenda.
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Infiltrating Hawwa'
Through the looking glass
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I guess. It's not any more impressive in it's subtlety then some of the things I've read on these forums.
Just saying, John Medeiros is no Mark Antony
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2011/12/22 23:35:45
Subject: Finally, Homosexuals Apologize for their Immoral Agenda.
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Necroshea wrote:Doesn't seem much more than a personal attack to me. I can think of better ways of disagreeing with someone than personal attacks.
I suppose that pointing out that someone is being a hypocrite would be a personal attack. Of course gay people tend to take being told they are second class citizens that are trying to destroy the fabric of society as personal attacks as well.
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2011/12/22 23:36:09
Subject: Finally, Homosexuals Apologize for their Immoral Agenda.
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Veteran ORC
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Melissia wrote:Necroshea wrote:Doesn't seem much more than a personal attack to me. I can think of better ways of disagreeing with someone than personal attacks.
It's not the content, but the delivery on this one.
Indeed it is. I almost didn't catch how biting it was the first read through.
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2011/12/22 23:36:48
Subject: Finally, Homosexuals Apologize for their Immoral Agenda.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Necroshea wrote:I guess. It's not any more impressive in it's subtlety then some of the things I've read on these forums.
Just saying, John Medeiros is no Mark Antony
The Pop singer or the Roman general...either way we aren't talking about a literary genius.
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2011/12/23 03:07:36
Subject: Finally, Homosexuals Apologize for their Immoral Agenda.
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Necroshea wrote:Doesn't seem much more than a personal attack to me. I can think of better ways of disagreeing with someone than personal attacks.
Pointing out hypocrisy is a personal attack, pretty much by necessity.
Meanwhile, I'm left wondering why the people so worried about marriage failure do nothing to help marriages survive, such as alleviating the number one cause of marriage breakdown - poverty. Probably because they're a bunch of donkey-caves who don't really care about families or the survival of marriages, and just like hating on the gays.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. |
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2011/12/23 05:13:32
Subject: Finally, Homosexuals Apologize for their Immoral Agenda.
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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sebster wrote:
Meanwhile, I'm left wondering why the people so worried about marriage failure do nothing to help marriages survive, such as alleviating the number one cause of marriage breakdown - poverty. Probably because they're a bunch of donkey-caves who don't really care about families or the survival of marriages, and just like hating on the gays.
I thought the number one cause of marriage failure was getting married, which would mean preventing homosexuals from doing so is really just about preventing the cheapening of marriage by increasing the number of annual divorces.
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2011/12/23 05:25:53
Subject: Finally, Homosexuals Apologize for their Immoral Agenda.
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I think the letter would be all the more entertaining if she were oblivious to the sarcasm then set out to celebrate her victory.
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2011/12/23 05:29:26
Subject: Finally, Homosexuals Apologize for their Immoral Agenda.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
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That would be the correct move, even if she weren't oblivious. 
At least, as far as "the lulz" are concerned.
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2011/12/23 07:14:08
Subject: Finally, Homosexuals Apologize for their Immoral Agenda.
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sebster wrote:Meanwhile, I'm left wondering why the people so worried about marriage failure do nothing to help marriages survive, such as alleviating the number one cause of marriage breakdown - poverty. Probably because they're a bunch of donkey-caves who don't really care about families or the survival of marriages, and just like hating on the gays.
In my opinion its cuz the Bible talks about what to do with gay people (kill 'em) but not what to do with poverty (???). Oh well. Every year there's a little less discrimination against gay people. Hopefully this trend will continue until they're like equal with straight people.
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2011/12/23 08:24:44
Subject: Finally, Homosexuals Apologize for their Immoral Agenda.
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And all along I thought the Teachings of :
Was to Love thy Neighbor.
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2011/12/23 09:53:18
Subject: Re:Finally, Homosexuals Apologize for their Immoral Agenda.
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What seems to have been missed by some people is she is being attacked because as usual for these "family values" politicians who spend so much time talking about morals she was caught with her own proverbial knickers down outside of her marriage. It's not her human failing that's being attacked, but the hypocrisy of trying to legislate other people's sexual behavior and morals when her own behavior doesn't even come close to her own professed standards. When will these idiots stop trying to legislate people's bedrooms? Minnesota 'Family Values' Senator Busted posted by From the Studio | Wednesday, December 21, 2011 http://wegoted.com/blog/default.asp?NID=852 Minnesota State Senator and former State Senate Majority Leader Amy Koch is having a hard time practicing what she preaches. Koch, who has been a fervent supporter of 'family values' and who co-authored a bill in 2009 to amend the Minnesota Constitution with a gay marriage ban, has stepped down as Senate Majority leader -- a move she initially claimed was for political reasons. Now, Koch has admitted to having an inappropriate relationship with a staffer. Koch has been careful to say she did not violate any laws or Senate rules. Koch's statement: In a letter dated 12.15.11, I announced that I was resigning as Majority Leader for personal reasons. I have made some mistakes and errors in judgment for which I am deeply sorry by engaging in a relationship with a Senate staffer. While I have not violated any laws or Senate rules, nor misused any state funds or property, I want to express my deep regret and apologies to my constituents, the Republican party, my fellow legislators, friends and most importantly, my family. I regret more than words can express the hurt that I have caused to the people that I love, and to those who have worked and served with me over the past years. The events of recent days have been very difficult for me and those close to me. It is important that I spend time now focusing on the challenging days ahead as I work through some very personal issues. Perhaps Koch should have sponsored a bill to amend Minnesota's Constitution so marriage can be an arrangement between a man, a woman, and any other third party you see fit.
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2011/12/23 10:12:27
Subject: Re:Finally, Homosexuals Apologize for their Immoral Agenda.
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BrassScorpion wrote:What seems to have been missed by some people is she is being attacked because as usual for these "family values" politicians who spend so much time talking about morals she was caught with her own proverbial knickers down outside of her marriage. It's not her human failing that's being attacked, but the hypocrisy of trying to legislate other people's sexual behavior and morals when her own behavior doesn't even come close to her own professed standards. When will these idiots stop trying to legislate people's bedrooms?
Minnesota 'Family Values' Senator Busted
posted by From the Studio | Wednesday, December 21, 2011
http://wegoted.com/blog/default.asp?NID=852
Minnesota State Senator and former State Senate Majority Leader Amy Koch is having a hard time practicing what she preaches. Koch, who has been a fervent supporter of 'family values' and who co-authored a bill in 2009 to amend the Minnesota Constitution with a gay marriage ban, has stepped down as Senate Majority leader -- a move she initially claimed was for political reasons.
Now, Koch has admitted to having an inappropriate relationship with a staffer. Koch has been careful to say she did not violate any laws or Senate rules. Koch's statement:
In a letter dated 12.15.11, I announced that I was resigning as Majority Leader for personal reasons. I have made some mistakes and errors in judgment for which I am deeply sorry by engaging in a relationship with a Senate staffer. While I have not violated any laws or Senate rules, nor misused any state funds or property, I want to express my deep regret and apologies to my constituents, the Republican party, my fellow legislators, friends and most importantly, my family. I regret more than words can express the hurt that I have caused to the people that I love, and to those who have worked and served with me over the past years.
The events of recent days have been very difficult for me and those close to me. It is important that I spend time now focusing on the challenging days ahead as I work through some very personal issues.
Perhaps Koch should have sponsored a bill to amend Minnesota's Constitution so marriage can be an arrangement between a man, a woman, and any other third party you see fit.
So, she pulled a Gingrich in other words.
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"But i'm more than just a little curious, how you're planning to go about making your amends, to the dead?" -The Noose-APC
"Little angel go away
Come again some other day
The devil has my ear today
I'll never hear a word you say" Weak and Powerless - APC
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2011/12/23 10:17:16
Subject: Finally, Homosexuals Apologize for their Immoral Agenda.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Ok i know its been said by at least one standup comedian but im gonna say it too.
Why shouldn't gays be allowed to marry? They deserve to be miserable just like everyone else.
But seriously, as far as scathing sarcasm goes this is pretty damn good.
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2011/12/23 12:07:32
Subject: Finally, Homosexuals Apologize for their Immoral Agenda.
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LoneLictor wrote:sebster wrote:Meanwhile, I'm left wondering why the people so worried about marriage failure do nothing to help marriages survive, such as alleviating the number one cause of marriage breakdown - poverty. Probably because they're a bunch of donkey-caves who don't really care about families or the survival of marriages, and just like hating on the gays.
In my opinion its cuz the Bible talks about what to do with gay people (kill 'em) but not what to do with poverty (???). Oh well. Every year there's a little less discrimination against gay people. Hopefully this trend will continue until they're like equal with straight people.
All the talk of killing is Old Testament, the teachings of Jesus, in the NewTestament preach forgiveness and love. The bible in both Testaments actually talks a lot about helping poor people.
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2011/12/23 12:25:06
Subject: Finally, Homosexuals Apologize for their Immoral Agenda.
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Exactly.
The Bible contains a wealth of information and advice which can be selected out of context to back up many different political/social positions.
Thus, people who might possibly be thought to be revealing themselves through their choice of scriptural guidance as being unconsciously homophobic, pick on particular verses which talk about not lying down with men.
If you read the Bible as a whole, however, it is possible to interpret much of the Old Testament message as being out-dated by the teachings of Jesus Christ, which presumably are what Christians ought to follow.
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