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How is it that they can ride in a chimera and not a razorback?

The rules say so. That's all there is to it.

Magic?

The other question to ask is "do you really even want to?"

AlmightyWalrus wrote:The rules say so. That's all there is to it.

^This.

It has been thus for the last several editions of the rules. Even in 2nd ed they could do it (ride in chimeras).
As GKs they are above petty codex astartes "recommendations".

It just sound rather unfair advantage and unfluffy. I guess I just put two lascannon one on each side and pop that armor 10 on the side.

Ogryns fit in a Chimera, why not Terminators?

A better question is why don't MEQ armies use chimeras over rhinos and razorbacks. According to fluff they are easier to manufacture as well, Leman Russ tanks as well for that matter.

I think my line of logic goes down along the line of Red Corsair's, Chimera is a wayyyyyy better Rhino.

Them being better is why marines dont get them. lol Average IG/Henchman is worse then a marine so they get better ride then the "elite" marine. It's a balancing act.

leohart wrote:I think my line of logic goes down along the line of Red Corsair's, Chimera is a wayyyyyy better Rhino.

So, you;d rather carry expensive Terminators in a lightly armoured tin can than in a Land Raider? Really?

I think this is less a rules issue than a game vs fluff issue.

The razorback with las and twin plasma (the oldest RB right?) has guns just as good as a chimera (better?), and seeing as 5 marines do more than 50 guard in the fluff, PLUS the rhino hull type is directly insert-able into the atmosphere via SM landing craft, why would SM ever use a chimera?

And like someone else said, termies are so very precious that they get land raiders as transports. The 250 point cost in game logic has no bearing--in the fluff the SM get the expensive elite stuff and the IG get the cheap massed produced stuff.

Red Corsair wrote:A better question is why don't MEQ armies use chimeras over rhinos and razorbacks. According to fluff they are easier to manufacture as well, Leman Russ tanks as well for that matter.

Space marines use rhinos since they are much easier to maintain and to do battlefield repairs. A space marine battle company needs to stay mobile and there isnt a better vehicle for that, than the Rhino. Chimeras break a lot. If a chimera gets broken, then It will stay broken and no one can affect on that. They are also much more fiddly and will not survive rough terrain as well as Rhinos.

Op
I have no idea where that logic came from. But if the rules say so, then you gotta obey them.

leohart wrote:How is it that they can ride in a chimera and not a razorback?

The door on the chimera is bigger?

Chimeras have been considered able to fit guys in terminator armor for a few editions now, counting as two models. I think the designer reasons/rationalizations for this include:

1. Some of the IG or allied characters (IIRC) like Inquisitors had the option for terminator armor.
2. Ogyryn have long (at least going back to 3rd ed, but I think probably longer) been allowed to embark in a Chimera.