Black Library News & Rumour thread. LE Art of the HH book. p.129.

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**Kanluwen**

BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Is Bequin out already?

Also, how does Cadia Stands compare to Cadian Blood?

Two very different stories.

"Cadia Stands" actually takes place during the events of the Fall of Cadia--"Cadian Blood" is set in the immediate aftermath/ending bits of the fight.
It also was written before the 'finalized' Fall of Cadia fluff.

**BrianDavion**

I voted Storm of Iron that book is fantastic. IMHO McNeil's best story by FAR

**phillv85**

Storm of Iron is great, I'd have voted for that if I didn't already have a copy.

**reds8n**

...fingers crossed for people :

**ritualnet**

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but are the following books any good?

Resurection/Incarnation (Horusian Wars)
Sons of the Hydra
The Carrion Throne
Rogue Trader Omnibus
Carcharodons: Outer Dark (Is this coming in paperback?)
The Macharian Crusade Omnibus

**BrookM**

As always, YMMV.

I've read the Macharius trilogy and while it started off strong, the second and third novels did not click for me at all. It didn't help that the third novel in particular felt rather rough and rushed.

I love the Rogue Trader trilogy, it has some fun stuff in there, even acting as something of a prequel to the Damocles Crusade IIRC.

Resurrection was a chore for me to get through, it was okay, I will pick up its sequel at a later date for sure, but I found the side material (the shorts and audio dramas) better than the main novel.

**BobtheInquisitor**

ritualnet wrote:
Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but are the following books any good?

Resurection/Incarnation (Horusian Wars)
Sons of the Hydra
The Carrion Throne
Rogue Trader Omnibus
Carcharodons: Outer Dark (Is this coming in paperback?)
The Macharian Crusade Omnibus

The Macharian Crusade books are great if you like the Guard. They are fun and they tell an interesting story, although the end is a bit rushed.

The Carrion Throne is good--I don't regret reading it--but it is deliberately Grimdark to the point of joylessness. Lots of Inquisition intrigue.

The Rogue Trader Omnibus I can't recommend. The space stiff feels really wrong after reading BFG fluff and Execution Hour, and the Rogue Trader characters seem like caricatures, not interesting or particularly bright. I had the feeling while reading the book that Andy Hoare's idea of 40k is very different.

**BrookM**

Ah, forgot about the Carrion Throne. Some of the characters are hit or miss, except for the AWESOMENESS that is the servo skull. And yeah, it is grim dark to the point of trying really, really hard to make every page as miserable as possible.

It is more than made for with the final act though.

**Kendo**

Is there a follow up book to Dark Imperium, in that the novel has a reasonably high level overview of the events of the Imperium? I felt that book moved the 40K universe along in a way most books don’t.

**BrookM**

IIRC the Emperor's Legion runs alongside Dark Imperium, it certainly ties into certain key events.

**BobtheInquisitor**

I heard the Devestation of Baal also advanced the plot. Is that accurate? (I'm just finishing up Garro and then diving in to Dark Imperium and all the post-DI books, too.)

How much overlap do these books have with the Ynnari book? Can I put that one off until I'm in an Eldar mood, or will I miss something Imperium-related?

**ImAGeek**

Kendo wrote:
Is there a follow up book to Dark Imperium, in that the novel has a reasonably high level overview of the events of the Imperium? I felt that book moved the 40K universe along in a way most books don’t.

There’s a sequel coming out in October, Plague War.

**AndrewGPaul**

Mr Morden wrote:
Kharadron Overlords Makaisson-class hauler

Really? I like that.

**BrianDavion**

Kendo wrote:
Is there a follow up book to Dark Imperium, in that the novel has a reasonably high level overview of the events of the Imperium? I felt that book moved the 40K universe along in a way most books don’t.

there is a direct sequal coming out in October. Watcher's of the Throne is also a good book in that regard.

**Looky Likey**

ritualnet wrote:
Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but are the following books any good?

Resurection/Incarnation (Horusian Wars)
Sons of the Hydra
The Carrion Throne
Rogue Trader Omnibus
Carcharodons: Outer Dark (Is this coming in paperback?)
The Macharian Crusade Omnibus

Resurrection is the better of the two Horusian books for me, very good and well worth reading. Incarnation isn't as long and has a slightly different feel to it. Carrion Throne is actually similar in feel to Resurrection but not as good, if you only get one of the two get Resurrection.

Rogue Trader I enjoyed but it feels like a 40k book from a different universe. There is even a brief sex scene in it, not many of those that I'm aware of in 40k novels.

The Macharian Crusade feels like from a different era of 40k, and I'd agree the third book is a disappointment after the third two.

**Mysterio**

Looky Likey wrote:

The Macharian Crusade feels like from a different era of 40k, and I'd agree the third book is a disappointment after the third two.

Say what?

**BrookM**

It certainly ended on a whimper. It also did nothing with what they used in the first novel, where Leo was recounting his experiences and whenever a character of importance died, you'd see their commendations and whatnot.

**Mr Morden**

Looky Likey wrote:
ritualnet wrote:
Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but are the following books any good?

Resurection/Incarnation (Horusian Wars)
Sons of the Hydra
The Carrion Throne
Rogue Trader Omnibus
Carcharodons: Outer Dark (Is this coming in paperback?)
The Macharian Crusade Omnibus

Resurrection is the better of the two Horusian books for me, very good and well worth reading. Incarnation isn't as long and has a slightly different feel to it. Carrion Throne is actually similar in feel to Resurrection but not as good, if you only get one of the two get Resurrection.

Rogue Trader I enjoyed but it feels like a 40k book from a different universe. There is even a brief sex scene in it, not many of those that I'm aware of in 40k novels.

The Macharian Crusade feels like from a different era of 40k, and I'd agree the third book is a disappointment after the third two.

Allusions to sex and sometimes a bit more in the Night Lords novels Gaunts Ghosts novels, Eisenhorn novels, Cain novels - in fact most of those that aren't bolter porn......

**farmersboy**

Don't forget Ian Watson's superb Inquisitor trilogy, where even the buildings have sex (albeit on a Slaanesh-controlled world in the Eye of Terror, if I remember correctly).

**Looky Likey**

Mr Morden wrote:

Allusions to sex and sometimes a bit more in the Night Lords novels Gaunts Ghosts novels, Eisenhorn novels, Cain novels - in fact most of those that aren't bolter porn......

Allusions to a couple having sex are a bit different to actual (tepid) sex scenes though.

farmersboy wrote:
Don't forget Ian Watson's superb Inquisitor trilogy, where even the buildings have sex (albeit on a Slaanesh-controlled world in the Eye of Terror, if I remember correctly).

They are also ~25 years old now, GW moved on from that more adult period with BL. I'm hopeful that the adult horror books that are coming will result in proper adult books again as a separate range.

**dreadblade**

Not sure if this has been mentioned before but I see that BL have re-released Titanicus to coincide with the release of Adeptus Titanicus (you can even buy an edition with the book included). I have the first edition and it's a great novel

**phillv85**

I got my print on demand Last Chancers books today. Took less than two weeks in the end.

**xking**

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**BrookM**

What are we supposed to see?

**xking**

BrookM wrote:
What are we supposed to see?

Nothing in particular, just Sharing.

**BrookM**

Got my copy of Warhawk of Chogoris today and already really enjoying it. Probably helps that the author is also responsible for the overall White Scars arc.

Does anybody know if BL is having another Summer of Reading this year? I quite liked last years selection of shorts.

**BrianDavion**

BrookM wrote:
Got my copy of Warhawk of Chogoris today and already really enjoying it. Probably helps that the author is also responsible for the overall White Scars arc.

might also just be Wraight is a great writer. all of his books are fantastic.

**reds8n**

haven't heard anything to do with a summer of reading currently.

http://fantasy-faction.com/2018/darius-hinks-joins-angry-robot-books-with-the-ingenious-guest-blog

good for him

Loved warrior priest and heard good things about his Mephiston books/series

I also enjoyed the Khan primarch book.

I know hindsight is always 20/20 but really do feel these maybe should've rolled out more earlier in the HH series or something.

Recently also read/finished Sons of the Hydra which was quite enjoyable -- better than the similarly themed Shroud of Night IMO.

Also read the Scythes of the Emperor collection/book.

Now I enjoyed it and felt most of it was really well written -- that said there were a couple of bits that did leave me..err.... a bit baffled, so to speak, mainly to do with the actions certain characters took and there is also a bit of a subplot that -- currently anyway -- doesn't really seem to go anywhere or link to anything else -- that I can see anyway.

TBF maybe it will in a follow up story but one wonders if this'll be another perpetually unresolved hook due to changes in 40k such as the introduction of the Primaris marines.

and maybe even to do with the author leaving BL .

https://jamesswallow.blogspot.com/2018/08/warhammer-fest-europe.html

WFE 2018 is taking place on Saturday August 18th and Sunday August 19th at the Maritim Hotel in Düsseldorf, and it's going to be a big one, with a ton of stuff going one for fans of the worlds of Warhammer and the Horus Heresy.

I'm appearing on the Saturday to represent the Black Library - First off, I'll be signing books from Midday to 1:00pm, and then straight after from 1:00pm-2:00pm I'll be talking about my forthcoming Horus Heresy novel The Buried Dagger, the fate of the Knights Errant and the Doom of the Death Guard.

Then from 3:00pm-4:00pm I'll join BL Germany's head of translation Tobias Roesner to talk more about our books, before a final signing session from 4:00pm. The signing will be a short one, as I have to dash off to catch my flight home..

**BrookM**

reds8n wrote:
I also enjoyed the Khan primarch book.

I know hindsight is always 20/20 but really do feel these maybe should've rolled out more earlier in the HH series or something.

Still working through it, but it does nicely set up some of the later events, like the big moment of the first Scars book and why they did it. But yes, these should've been wheeled out much earlier.

I'm thinking of picking up the Red Tithe, is it any good? I've read the short story from last years Summer of Reading, so I'm curious if a full blown novel works with these guys.

**reds8n**

The Buried Dagger
After 12 years, more than 50 books and loads of short stories and audio dramas, the Horus Heresy series is coming to an end, making way for the Siege of Terra – a new set of books that will follow the greatest conflict mankind has ever known in more detail than ever before.

The final book of the Horus Heresy series before the siege will be The Buried Dagger – a tale of betrayal, woe and the final, tragic collapse of the Death Guard. This moment has been a pivotal and iconic part of Horus Heresy lore for decades, and we’re incredibly excited to finally hear the full story.

Here’s writer James Swallow with more info:

When I wrote my first Horus Heresy novel – The Flight of the Eisenstein – that book was built around the narrative of key events in the history of the Death Guard and the venerable Battle-Captain Nathaniel Garro… So having The Buried Dagger, my last book to bear the Horus Heresy banner, return to both the XIV Legion and ‘Straight-arrow Garro’ appeals to my sense of synchronicity.

The Death Guard, their primarch Mortarion and Garro have all taken troubled roads to reach this point, and like a lot of the narratives in this saga, their story is a mirror of the greater tragedy of the Horus Heresy – and in this novel, each of them will pass a point of no return that will change them forever. I feel privileged to be the writer who got to end this chapter of the saga, and light the way to the next – prepare yourselves for the Siege.

Thanks, James – while we’re sure that The Buried Dagger will be a bittersweet read, it looks like a fitting end for this epic chapter for Warhammer 40,000 lore. The Siege of Terra promises to be incredibly exciting, and a worthy successor to The Horus Heresy.

..so the end of the HH series then ?

Hope they keep the legacy format going..

.. although one doesn't feel too confident about this.