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20 quid for the dice. Got myself a world eaters set. Decided not to get any others as I have no need for any more. Lionel up at £84

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Those dice are nice, but not AUD$46 nice.

   
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Of course I buy the new ones then find the originals for half the price on another site...

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Those dice are nice, but not AUD$46 nice.

And all Australians weeped

CaptainStabby wrote:
If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.

 jy2 wrote:
BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

 vipoid wrote:
Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

 MarsNZ wrote:
ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
 
   
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Looks like a few of the dice sets already temp out of stock. Sons of Horus and Dark Angels for one.
   
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Book and dice preordered. $1.50 a dice isnt bad for custom dice.

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Got Emails that my Dice and Book shipped.

Glad I nabbed the dice since they went out of stock decently quick.



Something is happening on the 24th, we sent you a poster.
 
   
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 TalonZahn wrote:
Got Emails that my Dice and Book shipped.

Glad I nabbed the dice since they went out of stock decently quick.


US site is showing everything available except the Lion.

Got my email yesterday though. Glad stuff is coming

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 zedmeister wrote:
New book has Aurox rules. Meanwhile, FW LCTB the model. Great job


And it's back
   
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I'm so pissed my dice still haven't shipped. Spent like 700 euros on a fething order and it still says it's going to ship after 2 days. As an insult, today I received notification that the Whirlwind Scorpius is back in stock. Guess what, it has been in stock the whole week since I ordered it on Monday.

Aurox is nice. Gives me hope we might someday see ROB tiles return as well. On the other hand, FWs PR is at it's finest - just imagine, how many angry people there were when they took it out in the first place. And all they needed was to say "relax, it will 100% be back, we just can't tell when".

   
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"Horus Heresy Book 9 – Crusade" overview from Garro on FB:

CRUSADE OVERVIEW PART ONE: NIGHT LORDS
Spoiler:
changes and additions, are viewed from their last printed version (red book)
a Talent for murder has been adjusted to be any "non-vehicle units" with monstrous creatures counting as 5 minis
new legion exclusive weapon that can replace any power weapon for an upgrade fee, independent characters only, the Headman's axe, X2 str AP3 melee, two-handed, rending
Terror assault rite of war
-cover of darkness turn one is now automatic, turn two is 3+
-raptor squads are also now compulsory troops choices, in addition to terror squads
Horror cult rite of war not present, three new ones in book
swift blade rite of war
-must take three HQ choices, gains additional two slots (total five)
-all HQs count as warlords, gains crusader and hatred (loyalists) instead of a trait, ALL warlords must be killed/removed to count as slaying the warlord
-all HQ choices must take a marine bike (regular)
-Hussar squadrons are compulsory troops, outrider squads non-compulsory troops.
-NL units in this rite, add +2 to their number went counting for 'talent of murder' rule.
-must take additional troops choice
-'tank' type vehicles must have the 'fast' type as well
-can't take any 'must be warlord' characters
-can't take 'heavy', 'immobile' units, nor fortification, or allied detachments, traitor only
the cross of bones rite of war
-for each non-compulsory HQ choice, +1 elites choice
-independent characters that aren't in a unit with another get +1 attack
-slay the warlord is worth an extra victory point if the enemy warlord is killed in melee by an independent character
-must take additional troops choice, can't have Curze
-all units must consolidate the full distance towards nearest enemy unit in LOS
The Bloodied Gaunlet
-all compulsory choices gain Zealot, but must start the game on the board, don't confer victory points for killing
-if you've drawn or lost, but all your compulsory choices have been wiped out, you get D3 victory points
-units entering play from turn 3 on wards get outflank
-must take +2 compulsory elites choices, must be infantry, and not in terminator armour of any kind
-compulsory choices can't hold or contest objectives, nor can they take dedicated transports, and the compulsory HQ choice can't be the warlord
-all non-compulsory choices must begin the game in reserves
TERROR SQUADS
-additional models are down 3pts
-bolters now free
-whole unit can take rotor cannons, half price as well
-flamer is still one per squad
-whole squad can take melta bombs (all or nothing)
-headsman's plasma pistol up 5pts
CONTEKAR TERMINATOR ELITE
-5-15 models
-'terminator armour' so could take either
-chainblade, heavy flamer, and ToJ by default
-implacable advance, chosen warriors
-Sevatar can take a squad instead of a command squad
-elites, but if Sevatar and curzes aren't in the army, a single unit of 10 or less models can be take as a HQ choice
-squad can take Teleport transponders
-replace flamer with volkite for price
-change chainblade for power claw X2str ap2, shred, unwieldy
RAPTOR SQUAD
-additional models down 5pts
-onslaught replaced with two new seperate rules, raptor squads can use their jump packs in both movement and charge phases, plus the unit basically gets a version of deflagrate on their melee attacks, (all taken at once after the whole unit has attacked).
-power weapons, chainglaives, and lightning claws all down 5pts
-plasma pistol down 5pts as well
-huntmaster can take a headsmans axe and TOJ
NAKRID THOLE new character
-praetor grade character
-artificer armour refractor field, volkite serpenta TOJ
-Thole can not be precision striked/shot, also on a +5 when he's slain, he doesn't confer VPs
-flay wipe, rending ap4, wounded models drop to I1 until end of it's controlling players turn, can swap he's attacks for a single attack against all enemy models within 2"
-also has a mastercrafted paragon blade, with extra rule that gives an extra attack for models that have been wounded by the wipe.
SEVATAR
-Contekar terminators count for his MoTA rule
-he can also upgrade to artifcer armour and replace the MC chainglaive for a new weapon for a fee, new weapon is AP2
FLAYMASTER MAWDRYM LLANSAHAI
-unchanged
KHERON OPHION OF THE KYROPTERA
- unchanged
KONRAD CURZE
-unchanged



CRUSADE OVERVIEW PART TWO: DARK ANGELS LEGION RULES
Spoiler:
this part won't include units, that will be the next bit
-couple of new swords have been added to the 'mastery of the blade' rule
-Molecular acid shells are fleshbane now rather than poison (2+)
-covenant of death replaced with two new rules
-DA units can't claim any leadership buffs from non-DA units
-DA units can take additional upgrades from the Hexagrammaton or Hekatonystika.
THE HEXAGRAMMATON
-any character or independant character can be made into a 'scion of the Hexagrammton' for a cost, these give a special rule, most of which confer to units it joins (you can 'stack' these if you don't like having friends)
-stormwing allows snap shots on BS2
-deathwing allows the model to reroll a missed to hit roll during a challenge
-dreadwing allows unit to auto-pick 4" instead of rolling for differcult terrain, and reroll dangerous terrain tests
-ironwing units treat crew shaken, as crew stunned
-firewing gains 'hatred (characters)
-ravenwing may reroll run, fall back, and thrust distances
SCIONS OF THE HEKATONYSTIKA
independant characters can take one of several options for a price, unsure if a single IC take scion options from both or not.
- +1str to weapons against enemy units with av11
- +1 attack if they're charged
-roll two dice, taking the highest for deny the witch tests
-reroll 1's to hit while in a challenge with an enemy with WS5 or higher
-reroll 1's to wound against enemy with toughness 5 in combat, or any TWR if toughness 6 or higher
- +1 attack if they're in base contact with 2 or more enemy models
- reroll all to hit and wound rolls against psykers and daemons (all versions) as well as enemy units effected by Blessings
Eskaton Imperative rite of war
-destoryer and interemptor squads are compulsory troops
-enemy units with LOS to a scion of the dreadwing IC within 12" get -1ld
-all open terrain becomes differcult, may place three markers, all terrain within 6" becomes dangerous in addition to existing rules
-all units and characters with Scion of the dreadwing rule can take rad grenades, statis grenades, or swap a heavy weapon with a plasma incinerator
-compulsory troops and Warlord must have scion of the dreadwing
-enemy scores 1VP if they've got any units left in their own deployment zone, 3VP if its a scoring unit
-all infantry units and IC must start the game in transports
-can't take fortification or allied detachment
STEEL FIST RITE OF WAR
-Predator squadrons are compulsory troops choices
-ironwing ICs give transports they're in a 6+ invuln, or +1 to an existing one
-non-terminator infantry units with ironwing, can take proteus or phobos land raiders as dedicated transports
-ironwing units in transports can reroll armour saves for damage done to them while in transport
-all infantry units must start the game in transports
-only a single bike/jetbike/flyer units can be taken (one of each)
-50% of the units in the army must be 'tank' type vehicles
-no fortification or allied detachments
STORM OF WAR RITE OF WAR
-legion tactical and assault squads that are 20 man strong may take a legion centurion, that joins the squad permanently, may not take a consul upgrade nor be the warlord, doesn't take up a HQ choice
-praetors and centurions gain a form of IG orders, only effects the model, plus unit it has joined.
-all complusory troops and warlord must be stormwing
-tactical squads and assault squads can't have dedicated transports, and must make up 50% of units in the army (their centurions don't count)
-no fortification or allied detachments
THE UNBROKEN VOW RITE OF WAR
-veteran tactical squads and legion terminator squads are compulsory troops
-deathwing ICs get +1 attack while within 12" of an objective
-deathwing units get a 6+FNP while within 6" of an objective, or +1 to an existing FNP. only one model needs to be within distance
-all Compulsory troops and Warlord must be deathwing
-no allied detachments
-place an objective marker in the center of the board, if the DA player doesn't control it at the end of the game, the enemy gets +1vp, +3vps if they control it
THE SEEKER'S ARROW RITE OF WAR
-Jetbike sky hunters, and outrider squads become troops choices
-Ravenwing ICs can buy 'hit and run'
-ravenwing Units gain outflank, and arrive from reserves on 2+
-ravenwing units can add +2" to either run/turbo-boost, charge, or consolidation moves each game turn.
-only include vehicles with 'fast', 'skimmer', or 'flyer' types
-only include a single Heavy support squad
-all jetbike and bike units that aren't compulsory troops start in reserves
-no allied detachement or fortification
SERPENT'S BANE RITE OF WAR
-Seeker squads and firewing enigmatus cadres are troops
-at the start of the game pick three enemy HQs, elites, or LOW choices, all Firewing units, gain +1 to wound or penetrate against these units.
-Firewing ICs gain +1 attack in combat against the picked units
-up to three firewing troops choices can be given infiltrate, if they deploy within 17" of a picked unit, they gain rage for the first two turns of the game.
-seekers and assault squads are compulsory troops and must be firewing as well as the warlord
-if any of the picked enemy units survive the game, the DA automatically loses, regardless of VPs
-no fortification or allied detachments
next up is the DA units.



CRUSADE OVERVIEW PART THREE: DARK ANGELS UNITS
Spoiler:
i'm going to ignore the two units we've already got PDFs for as they won't have changed. which are the inner circle knights and interemptors.
DEATHWING COMPANIONS
- 5-10 models
- artificer armour, bolter, bolt pistol, grenades, sergeant has refractor field
- terranic greatsword or calibanite warblade
-automatically deathwing
-squad can take meltabombs
-replace sword with powerfist
- swap bolter for plasma pistol, combi-weapon, or the shield
-shield gives +4 against shooting, 5+ against melee, can boost the shields to give cover to friendly models in the unit without one, but the sheild models can't shoot or fight.
-can only be taken as a replacement command squad
-the IC that the squad is taken for must be attached and can't leave. they can't be precision shot/striked while part of the unit, and companions autopass any look out sir tests.
-the squad can upgrade into terminator armour (either), swapping the usual bundles of wargear. and gaining access to combi-bolters, thunderhammers and lightning claws. (keeping the calbanite warblade)
-regular companions can take a rhino or proteus as a dedicated transport, terminators can take phobos only.
FIREWING ENIGMATUS CABAL
-three man jump infantry WS5 W2 A3
-firewing, scout, hatred (characters)
-power armour, shroud bombs, needle pistols
-fancy jump pack, that gives a 5+ cover save, and denies overwatch if you're using it in the charge phase.
-fancy swords that are +1str and AP3, can overcharge to give rending and gets hot.
IRONWING EXCINDIO CLASS BATTLE-AUTOMATA
-absolute beast automata, single model
tortured remains of the men of iron, put into terran automata suits of dark age tech.
-two dreadnought close combat weapons, and two unique servo-arms, 5+ invuln, and always explodes. has the rampage and hatred everything rules.
-has two combi-bolters which can be upgraded into gravguns, irad clensers, or plasma repeaters
- may replace its DCCWs and servo arms with a range of unique guns, all look horrible.
-has all the usual automata rules
-has a rule called 'vengeful rage' each time it suffers a wound, roll a D6, on a '1' it goes native, and follows a basic set of rules for the REST of the game (attacking closest unit even if friendly etc).
-once it goes native DA units can attack it as if it was an enemy unit.
-friendly Techmarines can take a 'kill switch' which will auto-deal D6 'mortal wounds' to the automata, doesn't confer VPs if it dies this way.
CORSWAIN
WS7 W4 A4
-bolter, bolt pistol, grenades
-fancy armour gives 2+/4++ increases to 3++ in combat.
-the blade is +2str AP1 2handed, mastercrafted, and confers instant death while in a challenge.
-master of the legion, and deathwing, precision strikes
MARDUK SEDRAS
-plasma burner, 3 phosphex bombs, cataphractii armour that autopasses dangerous terrain
-master of the legion, dreadwing, may take an inner cicle cenobium as a command squad if he's the warlord
- UBER OP sword that was previewed in road to thramas
-at the start of the game, pick a single faction from the Allies table, that is present in the enemy army. all DA units within 6" of Sedras (including himself) gains preferred enemy against this faction.
LION EL'JOHNSON
stats etc already covered by road to thramas, so going to focus on special rules
-sires of the dark angels, allows DA units to roll extra dice for all morale tests, and use lowest combo
-the Lion and any DA squad he joins can auto-roll 8" for charges ignoring difficult and dangerous terrain or roll normally
-may take a squad of deathwing companions as part of his LOW choice


CRUSADE OVERVIEW PART FOUR: REGULAR UNITS
Spoiler:
the two big ones here are the new Legion Hussar squadron, and Sky Seeker squadrons.
HUSSAR SQUADRON
-5-10 biker squad
-chainsword, grenades, and bolt pistol
-standard bike with twin-linked bolter
-can replace TL bolter with a TL snub-rotor cannon (12" range salvo4/5)
-sergeant can swap pistol for plasma pistol or hand flamer, can swap chainsword for power weapon/fist, or lightning claw. he can also take melta bobs
-NON-COMPULSORY TROOPS CHOICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LEGION JETBIKE SKY SEEKER SQUADRON
-3-10 Jetbike squad
-only 3+ armour and scout
-chainsword, bolt pistol, and grenades
-Orcale array on jetbikes, counts as augury scanner, and can basically 'markerlight' an enemy unit instead of shooting themselves, friendly units get +1 to hit an enemy unit that's been marked. doesn't stack
-the jetbike starts with a TL bolter but can be upgraded into a HEAVY rotor canon or a grenade launcher.
-sergeant can take same upgrades as hussar sergeant. note neither can take artificer armour.
-NON-COMPULSORY TROOPS CHOICE!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE other new vehicles are just the existing PDFs put into print, with the Deradeo getting a reprint with it's additional weapons load outs that have came out since it's last print.
that's going to wrap up my Initial overview of Crusade. I'm not going to cover the new lore just yet, as it's going to time a while to read through it all and take it all in. I'll be keeping an eye on comments for questions and will try to answer them, but I won't be giving out points costs or full statlines.



Automatically Appended Next Post:
I really want to have a look at that Battle-automata...

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Book finally delivered and going through it now.

Got to say that the Excindio is beast and is absolutely mental. Hatred: Everything with a chance to just go on a bezerk killing spree if wounded.
   
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The Night Lords seem more inspired in terms of rule writing.

CaptainStabby wrote:
If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.

 jy2 wrote:
BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

 vipoid wrote:
Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

 MarsNZ wrote:
ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
 
   
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The new night lords stuff is really nice, excited to use the revamped terror assault with night raptors.

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Hate to double post, but for anyone who has the book:

Can contekars all take power claws, or just the sgt?
   
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This book had me excited! I was ready to FINALLY buy a 30K book from Forgeworld, and build up small forces of Night Lords and Dark Angels to play 30K with...

...book is sold out in the US store. Hooray.

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 godswildcard wrote:
This book had me excited! I was ready to FINALLY buy a 30K book from Forgeworld, and build up small forces of Night Lords and Dark Angels to play 30K with...

...book is sold out in the US store. Hooray.


Going to guess that everyone preordered on the 4th as soon as it went up on the site. Hit the "email me" button to let them know you're interested! Hopefully they'll have multiple waves of the book so that everyone can get a copy. Good luck.
   
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 Mr. Grey wrote:
 godswildcard wrote:
This book had me excited! I was ready to FINALLY buy a 30K book from Forgeworld, and build up small forces of Night Lords and Dark Angels to play 30K with...

...book is sold out in the US store. Hooray.


Going to guess that everyone preordered on the 4th as soon as it went up on the site. Hit the "email me" button to let them know you're interested! Hopefully they'll have multiple waves of the book so that everyone can get a copy. Good luck.

Or they could ship some extras over from the remaining UK stock…

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So the book is 170$ ish canadian and it's like 100 pages less than others.


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And looks slightly taller? And doesn't have the same GW logo on the spine. That would drive me nuts in a lineup.

   
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 Prometheum5 wrote:
And looks slightly taller? And doesn't have the same GW logo on the spine. That would drive me nuts in a lineup.


They like changing the format through a series. The Adeptus Titanicus books, of the 5 books, I think only 2 have the same combination of logos on the spine.
   
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 Crablezworth wrote:
So the book is 170$ ish canadian and it's like 100 pages less than others.

Spoiler:


Is the font half the size and it comes bundled with dollar store magnifying eyeglasses to compensate?

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It's smaller and not even filled up with text, there's a photo floating around of pages that are 90% photo edited ships flying though clouds with tiny paragraphs at the top. I'm hesitating to buy because it seems like such a rip off compared to the other books. Maybe wait for the softback.
   
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 Irkjoe wrote:
It's smaller and not even filled up with text, there's a photo floating around of pages that are 90% photo edited ships flying though clouds with tiny paragraphs at the top. I'm hesitating to buy because it seems like such a rip off compared to the other books. Maybe wait for the softback.


Not that it’s really a defence but there’s pages like that in others in the series too.
   
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It was never realistic to expect a tiny team to knock out 300+ page coffee table books regularly for a decade or more.

Honestly, that's one reason I like the format of the AT books. Sure, more fluff would be nice. But those books are sustainable. They can develop two per year and avoid lulls of 12 months or more.

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The blank pages in question.

 gorgon wrote:
It was never realistic to expect a tiny team to knock out 300+ page coffee table books regularly for a decade or more.
They're still charging more for it than the previous, larger hardback books.

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Is there an Ironwing RoW in Crusade?
   
 
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