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2021/06/11 10:04:12
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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As I see it. Basically snaggas are the new choppa and these guys the new shoota.
Probably all monopose.
Normal orks will go the way of the old marines
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2021/06/11 11:28:32
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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If they *are* new Boyz, I'll be skipping them unless the scale/look is still consistent with a) the existing Boyz; b) all the other units that are based off the existing Boyz (Lootas, Stormboyz, vehicle crew etc). I'll take "old" over "mismatched" every time. Automatically Appended Next Post: I wonder if we might see something about this on WhC in the next couple of days; they're usually pretty swift at responding to this sort of speculation these days.
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2021/06/11 12:08:20
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Stealthy Grot Snipa
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Nazrak wrote:If they *are* new Boyz, I'll be skipping them unless the scale/look is still consistent with a) the existing Boyz; b) all the other units that are based off the existing Boyz (Lootas, Stormboyz, vehicle crew etc). I'll take "old" over "mismatched" every time.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
I wonder if we might see something about this on WhC in the next couple of days; they're usually pretty swift at responding to this sort of speculation these days.
This is the big problem as I see it with updating existing lines. The current ork range is hugely interchangeable with one another, and you can use parts and pieces from a generic ork boy in a dozen other different kits. Unless GW is also planning on releasing new burnas/lootas, Stormboyz, and so on, all of that flexibility goes out the window with a new ork boyz kit. Which, it being GW, will also likely be more expensive and less poseable(yes, even if "poseable" just means a slightly different arm or head position). IMO ork boyz are already too expensive at $35/10, which adds up really quickly in a horde army when you need 90-120 of them.
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2021/06/11 12:24:34
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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Mr. Grey wrote:This is the big problem as I see it with updating existing lines. The current ork range is hugely interchangeable with one another, and you can use parts and pieces from a generic ork boy in a dozen other different kits. Unless GW is also planning on releasing new burnas/lootas, Stormboyz, and so on, all of that flexibility goes out the window with a new ork boyz kit. Which, it being GW, will also likely be more expensive and less poseable(yes, even if "poseable" just means a slightly different arm or head position). IMO ork boyz are already too expensive at $35/10, which adds up really quickly in a horde army when you need 90-120 of them.
I wholeheartedly agree with this, but I have to point out that storm boyz are the one plastic kit not compatible with boyz
Burnas/lootas, warbikers, battlewagon and trukk crew, the mini mek all are build exactly the same as boyz, and the nob options are compatible with nobz and flash gits as well.
Most kommando and tankbusta skulpts can also mix and match bits with them.
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks do not think that purple makes them harder to see. They do think that camouflage does however, without knowing why.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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2021/06/11 12:28:39
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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It worked out with Space Marines though.
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2021/06/11 12:48:30
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Jidmah wrote: Mr. Grey wrote:This is the big problem as I see it with updating existing lines. The current ork range is hugely interchangeable with one another, and you can use parts and pieces from a generic ork boy in a dozen other different kits. Unless GW is also planning on releasing new burnas/lootas, Stormboyz, and so on, all of that flexibility goes out the window with a new ork boyz kit. Which, it being GW, will also likely be more expensive and less poseable(yes, even if "poseable" just means a slightly different arm or head position). IMO ork boyz are already too expensive at $35/10, which adds up really quickly in a horde army when you need 90-120 of them.
I wholeheartedly agree with this, but I have to point out that storm boyz are the one plastic kit not compatible with boyz
Burnas/lootas, warbikers, battlewagon and trukk crew, the mini mek all are build exactly the same as boyz, and the nob options are compatible with nobz and flash gits as well.
Most kommando and tankbusta skulpts can also mix and match bits with them.
The arm joints are a bit weird on Stormboyz, but it's still a pretty easy swap, and the heads are totally cross compatible. Plus they're still aesthetically consistent with the rest of the range. Obviously we'll have to wait and see, but it'd be a real shame for that aesthetic and component compatibility to go away, and I can't see them completely reworking every unit in the way they did with Primaris Marines.
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2021/06/11 12:56:14
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Hungry Ork Hunta Lying in Wait
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As someone who has just kitbashed up 60 Savage Orcs into snakebite 40k orkz I am a little worried on new ork boyz.
However if it is new boyz, then I imagine they'll look good in a nice big varied horde since to Orkz, uniformity is anathema.
I'm still excited! Concerned for my collection but still excited.
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2021/06/11 12:57:46
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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It’s hard to get a sense of scale from the pics. And whilst definitely new Orks, they could be Ardboyz or Skarboyz being added as a formal unit.
Completely wild speculation on my behalf of course. I have nothing to back that up by.
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2021/06/11 13:22:10
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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In a way I'm sad because I love the current ork boyz and I was sad to see their fantasy equivalents go the way of the dodo, specially the boar riders.
But no kit last forever my son. (With the exception of craftworld eldar). The price increase will sting, no doubt. But the kit will be probably pretty good. At least with troops, GW has make decent kits in recent times, intercessors, sisters of battle, etc...
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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2021/06/11 14:00:55
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Plus there's an absolute ton of non-GW kits out there using the Brian Nelson's Ork-aesthetic. Probably why GW are changing it up...
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2021/06/11 14:34:55
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Stealthy Grot Snipa
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Nurglitch wrote:Plus there's an absolute ton of non- GW kits out there using the Brian Nelson's Ork-aesthetic. Probably why GW are changing it up...
...are there? Because I haven't noticed any 3rd party sellers that make Nelson-esque orks, they usually veer in very different directions(Kromlech for example).
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2021/06/11 14:43:40
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
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New Necron Warriors, new Boyz. Who knows, maybe there are some new Gaunts for nids too?
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2021/06/11 14:43:52
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I'd include Kromlech, although there's Wargame Exclusive, 3D Art Digital, Creature Caster, Artel W, GearGutz' Mek Shop, Vidovic Arts, and a ton of stuff on Thingiverse and ShapeWays.
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2021/06/11 14:46:58
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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Have GW changed the Ork aesthetic up though?
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2021/06/11 14:49:01
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Shadow Walker wrote:New Necron Warriors, new Boyz. Who knows, maybe there are some new Gaunts for nids too?
My dreams of a new Eldar range springs anew. Automatically Appended Next Post:
Yep very substantially.
The newer Orks look nothing like the old ass ones.
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2021/06/11 14:52:30
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
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It will happen for sure...after each and every other army gets all their units in plastic, and some new armies get introduced
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2021/06/11 15:09:30
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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We'll see if the rumor pans out with the GK vs TS box, but purportedly battleboxes going forward will be one side getting a new hero and one side getting all new models.
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2021/06/11 15:11:26
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The Eldar range needs so many new models it's freaking crazy.
Even more of a redo that Necrons got.
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2021/06/11 15:26:42
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Been Around the Block
Los Angeles
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I am so psyched to see a possibility of new Ork Boyz. Recently, I started building a new Ork army and stopped half way through hearing of new model rumors. I guess I will have a mix of old and new Ork models which to me feels pretty Orky given how they can vary in size, color and form factor.
I often look at the LoTR films and note how many of the Orcs look so different.
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2021/06/11 15:29:45
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Bigger swole-boyz are a big yes from me. If I want to kitbash sawing through plastic is the easiest thing ever* and if they suck, there's probably enough old kits still on sprue to be had to last a while.
If they give us new Kommandoz that look good they'll sell me an entire Blood Axes army on top of that.
*case in point, the very not interchangable Savage Orcs and BB Orcs turned into all sorts of 40k units
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Looking for a Skaven Doomwheel banner to repair my Nurgle knights. |
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2021/06/11 17:04:01
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Fresh-Faced New User
Texas
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Orkimedez_Atalaya wrote:As I see it. Basically snaggas are the new choppa and these guys the new shoota.
Probably all monopose.
Normal orks will go the way of the old marines
You mean on sale in every store right alongside the newer parts of the line?
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More 40k armies than 40k time ... |
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2021/06/11 17:43:54
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
The best State-Texas
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Kanluwen wrote:
We'll see if the rumor pans out with the GK vs TS box, but purportedly battleboxes going forward will be one side getting a new hero and one side getting all new models.
I would be pretty suprised if this rumor ends up panning out. I feel like the new battlebox is just going to have the new Infernal Master and Castellan Crowe model.
If the GK side got all new models, I would be impressed.
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2021/06/13 12:08:39
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Waaagh! Ork Warboss
Italy
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Can't the "new shoota boyz" just be regular snaggas? In the picture of the new army box, with the whole 20 man squad of snaggas there's one of them with some sort of shoota, second row from above. It's the only model with a two handed ranged weapon, I guess maybe those snaggas can be equipped with shootas just like boyz.
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2021/06/13 13:43:52
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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Blackie wrote:Can't the "new shoota boyz" just be regular snaggas? In the picture of the new army box, with the whole 20 man squad of snaggas there's one of them with some sort of shoota, second row from above. It's the only model with a two handed ranged weapon, I guess maybe those snaggas can be equipped with shootas just like boyz.
They have completely different legs and armor.
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks do not think that purple makes them harder to see. They do think that camouflage does however, without knowing why.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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2021/06/13 14:08:25
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Terrifying Doombull
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Blackie wrote:Can't the "new shoota boyz" just be regular snaggas? In the picture of the new army box, with the whole 20 man squad of snaggas there's one of them with some sort of shoota, second row from above. It's the only model with a two handed ranged weapon, I guess maybe those snaggas can be equipped with shootas just like boyz.
Nope. That's a special weapon for the unit (that body can also be equipped with an double handed axe). The beast snaggas are 10 mono-pose models, none of which show up in this picture.
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Efficiency is the highest virtue. |
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2021/06/14 12:08:04
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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2021/06/14 12:12:55
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Now we get to see if we should've been careful what we wished for.
And this solves another Rumour Engine:
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2021/06/14 12:14:43
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Well well well. I've not been particularly keen on a lot of the newer Ork stuff; the faces don't seem as characterful as the older Nelson sculpts, but I'm actually pretty into this. If things work out, scaling-wise, I might get a box of these to mix in with my existing Boyz, but if not, I've got plenty of other Ork backlog to work through and can see myself cycling round to getting some of these eventually.
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2021/06/14 12:20:29
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Solves at least two. Big Squig Gob and the rippy fist.
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2021/06/14 12:20:37
Subject: 40K Beast Snaggas - new info on pp7. T5 Boyz.
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
Australia
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I think the new boy looks absolutely incredible.
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The Circle of Iniquity
The Fourth Seal
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