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I have come to an understanding that there are only three way to effectively use necron troops. 5 warriors in ark, 20 warriors + lord, and 10 telsa immortals. I was wondering what types of lists that these options would be used in, and if there are any other options. Thank you!

5 Immortals - Tesla, Night Scythe

And if I wanted to play elite footcron would 3 groups of 8-10 immortals with gauss blasters work?

Groove 1312 wrote:And if I wanted to play elite footcron would 3 groups of 8-10 immortals with gauss blasters work?

No. Unless you have a phaeron in each.
If they have blasters they have to walk at least 3 turns in order to be in effective range.
And once they are they will prolly be charged after.

You could park them somewhere and have them ping the enemy at long range, but it won't be that effective.

I have come to an understanding that there are only three way to effectively use necron troops. 5 warriors in ark, 20 warriors + lord, and 10 telsa immortals. I was wondering what types of lists that these options would be used in, and if there are any other options. Thank you!

I think you basically hit the nail on the head here. I think that in general the 20 Warriors plus Arc and Res Orb Lord is wasteful. Sure, it won't be moved off of objectives, but it won't do much else. For 450+ points I really see no need.

I take 4 squads of 7 Immortals and 2 squads of 5 Warriors at 2000 points. With 2 CCB Lords, 6 Wraiths, 20 Scarabs, 3 Annihilation Barges and two turns of night fight, I have found that opponents don't have much time to focus on my troops. The Immortals are able to provide support and cleanup.

It really depends but I could see lists with 4-6 min Warriors working because how potent and hard to kill the rest of the Cron army can be.

So would groups of 8 immortals with tesla, 30 scarabs, imotekh if need be, and like monoliths work?

And if I wanted to play elite footcron would 3 groups of 8-10 immortals with gauss blasters work?

Tesla is far better.


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So would groups of 8 immortals with tesla, 30 scarabs, imotekh if need be, and like monoliths work?

30 Scarabs is overkill. I'm finding 20 to be a bit high even. If you want to run Imotekh then you probably want to run an assault based list. Imotekh hurts shooting because it effects Crons as well as the opponent. Monoliths aren't that great either.

So would groups of 8 immortals with tesla, 30 scarabs, imotekh if need be, and like monoliths work?

Groove 1312 wrote:So would groups of 8 immortals with tesla, 30 scarabs, imotekh if need be, and like monoliths work?

Well if you're scarab farming, mind as well ditch the liths (which are nerfed in this book) for spyders

Delicious cookies eh?

Not scarab farming?

In my opinion a faq may add a few new troop types.

If you can get 2 overlords to each put a royal court into the same unit then a double lord warscythe mindshakle upgrade to 8 warriors in ghost ark would make for a fairly spammable assault unit with an assault transport.

In my opinion a faq may add a few new troop types.

If you can get 2 overlords to each put a royal court into the same unit then a double lord warscythe mindshakle upgrade to 8 warriors in ghost ark would make for a fairly spammable assault unit with an assault transport.

Why on earth would people pay 104 for 8 Warriors, 110 for a Ghost Arc, and 45+ for each Lord for a crappy assault unit?

Not really, no.

I take a squad of 10 Immortals with Gauss Blasters plus an Overlord with Phaeron and Res.Orb. Gauss Blasters are relatively weak compared to the new Tesla Carbines (Carbines are Assault, so you can move and shoot, unlike the Gauss Rapid Fire weapons). Phaeron evens the playing field (of weapons) a bit. Then again, I also take a Royal Court of 5 Harbingers of Destruction and one Lord with Res Orb and Warscythe (pointless, but the last ten points had to go somewhere).

Jgrand, cause its not a bad assault unit! Land raider deployment. Warscythes kill anything given time. 2 mindshackle can beat a unit by itself, and provide time for the warscythes. Ghost arks regen warriors providing more time.

Jgrand, cause its not a bad assault unit! Land raider deployment. Warscythes kill anything given time. 2 mindshackle can beat a unit by itself, and provide time for the warscythes. Ghost arks regen warriors providing more time.

Again it's 110+104+60+60 without a res orb. 334 points. I don't mind thinking outside the box but this idea is just bad.

So if one was to create an army list using only monoliths as heavy support and only immortals as troops what would it look like in 1850?

The Immortal list in this thread: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/60/420171.page is a solid option.

Also, some lists that were posted here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/418785.page#3717827, just swap out the Annihilation Barges for a Monolith.

Again it's 110+104+60+60 without a res orb. 334 points. I don't mind thinking outside the box but this idea is just bad.

Why? The transport is a good vehicle to begin with, its not like its a 100+ point rhino. The 8 warriors are not unreasonable at 100, and for what you get the lords for 120, while seeming high, really isnt. Versus single models they have a very small chance of being able to swing, and versus elite units taking 2 models out of the equasion and adding their attacks to your side is a substansial swing.

Many battle reports featuring MSS sing their virtues over and over, and that is with limited access to them via characters. An army featuring half a dozen, provided the FAQ allows doubling up Lords in a squad, can be a nightmare.

20 warriors, an arc, a res orb, potentially a phearon, potentially another lord, and a royal court of destruction crypteks for the ark.

You can do something similar with obyron or a Veiling cryptek but this makes for a really tough core.

Lords are just such expensive nannies though...

The basic premise of there only being "3 ways" to use Necrons troops is pretty far off. I typically run 8-9 in a ghost ark (plus a Cryptek with solar pulse), x2, and then a big blob of 15-20 foot warriors with a few more Crypteks/Lords.

Keeping your dudes outside of their super-tough open-topped transport is criminal. And a big foot blob can still get the repair protocols from the full gunboats. 5-man warrior squads might as well not even be there for how unreliable they are. One round of shooting is likely to kill them outright, and they will lose in assault to almost any unit in the game. Even shooting, they will reliably kill even 1 MEQ per turn.

MSU might work with Night Scythes and Immortals, but it's not really looking like the Necrons thing. Their troops work best in a moving gunline, not as pure delivery platforms for special weapons.

I agree with the above post.

MSU doesn't work with Necrons unless they are boarded on a Scythe or are Wraith.