Rumour about changes of GW paint range (now with paint names and colour diagram)

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**Kroothawk**

See also update in second half of this post with updated info.

Official information will be released 24th March, stores will be informed in detail the following week. Paints are released 7th of April. ALL OLD PAINTS are discontinued. The official teaser video confirms that we will get 145 paints:

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/wnt/blog.jsp?pid=1900054-gws

New paints:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat470002a&rootCatGameStyle=
(takes a while to load all 145 colours)

Paint Guide:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat470002a&prodId=prod1490021a

Official GW conversion chart old to new paints (found by biccat):
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m2320032a_Citadel_Conversion_Chart

First look at new starter sets and painting guide:
http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/3/20/344099_md-.jpg

These pics thanks to Kronk:

Hi,

some stores got the info that there are changes about to happen with the GW paint range. They are advised to
- sell down their stock;
- restock can be made in single pots instead of 6 packs to assist this;
- more details at the end of March;
- stores should budget for a large outlay at some time after that.

What that means is to anyones speculation. This could be a change of pots, a change of the paint rack, or something bigger. That's all I have at the moment. If you want to be on the safe side and have one colour you absolutely need for your army, you might want to stock this colour in case some colours are discontinued. Or you consult this table of alternative paints: http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Paint_Range_Compatibility_Chart .

The above message to stores is fact.

Darnok wrote:Here some rumours:
It's getting spring, the birds sing more often.

Yet another confirmation for the coming releases: March has the new paints, Thunderwolves and the Tervigon kit. Preorders for this by end of March.

Salt to be applied as usual.
(

rattman wrote:The new GW paint range will be 144 paints. There will be basic range of 72 and an extended range (not avaiable to all LGS) of 72
Quick note I have heard 2 number 144 and 152. So it should be one of those

This sounds believable. Another poster on Warseer said the same:

Romanus wrote:Hey Guys, just to chime in, the paint range is being increased to around 150 paints (147 was the number I heard), coming out in April, other rumblings on a store level but want bore you with any of that.

straightsilver wrote:I have heard that the new Citadel Paints will be the high density pigment variety, so very similar to the current line of P3 paints.

They have a much better coverage over black undercoat and the colours are more vibrant, especially on reds and yellows.

I suppose they could be considered halfway between a foundation paint and the current ones.

It looks like the pots they come in are pretty much staying the same though, which is unfortunate as they tend to dry out very quickly.

I have heard a rumour that there is also a more cynical reason for re-releaseing the paints with different names, but I guess most of us have already worked that out....

So here my personal guess of what is behind all those rumours:
1.) New paints released in April (not March), preorders end of March. Information to FLGS end of March.
2.) Current colour range will roughly stay the same, but quality, formula and names will change due to a new manufacturer. Pots will probably stay the same. This range corresponds to "GW stockist outlet" module #2 .
3.) New colours will be released, pushing the total to around 150. There will be subcategories like foundation, layering, washes. Having this extended range of paints corresponds to the ""GW Stockist Outlet" module #5.

Edit 1st March:

Yakface wrote:I got this info passed onto me about the new GW paint changes.

I've never gotten rumors from this source before, so I cannot vouch for their validity (so take this with whatever amount of salt you'd like):

-144 colours are in.
-lots of renaming of colours, nothing is leaving.
-All in different catagories now, Shades (washes) bases, layers, glazes (thin washes) and textures.
-Prices are staying the same.

So it sounds to me like the main thing GW is doing is reorganizing the line to make it more clear which paints/washes/etc are designed to be used in what situations.

Yakface wrote:Okay, more info from the same source:

• There are 144 paints (the current line is only 73), so the range is doubling in size.

• Broken down into Bases (foundations), Layers (normal colours), shades (washes), Dry (essentially goopy paint for dry brushing), Glaze (thinned washes for easier blending), Texture (sand + colour) and Technical (liquid green stuff).

• Bottles are not changing.

• Every color is renamed, there will be a white dwarf with a comparison guide released. Blood red is now wild rider red, ultramarine blue is Calgar blue, skull white is white scar etc etc. There is a big expansion in the greens. There are pinks again, and more purple.

• Foundation white!! Named Ceramite White

• New how to paint book that includes a 90 minute DVD

• Mega paint set available year round now, but is super expensive apparently. Prices are apparently the same (for now).

Kroothawk wrote:Small update on the two new glues in March:
Will be a thin plastic glue with metal pin, for applying to smaller parts.
Plus a thick super glue, for applying to larger parts and with the ability to fill small gaps.
Same volume as the resp. other glues, about the same price (plastic glue a tad more expensive).

Leaked pic from an ebay auction:

Edit 13th March:

yakface wrote:The new paint names from the same source as before:

BASES
Ceramite White
Averland Sun
Jokaero Orange
Mephiston Red
Khorne Red
Naggaroth Night
Daemonette Hide
Kantor Blue
Macragge Blue
Caledon Sky
Stegadon scale green
Incubi Darkness
Caliban Green
Waaaagh! Flesh
Castellan green
Death world forest
Zandri dust
Steel Legion Drab
Bugmans Glow
Ratskin Flesh
Mournfang brown
XV-88
Rhinox hide
Dryad bark
Mechanicus standard grey
Celestus grey
Abaddon Black (the only black in the range)
Rakarth flesh
The fang
Screamer pink
Leadblecher (metal)
Balthasar Gold (metal)
Screaming Bell (metal)
Warplock brown (metal)

LAYER
White Scar
Yriel Yellow
Flash gitz yellow
Troll slayer orange
Fire dragon bright
Evil sunz scarlet
Wild Rider red
Wazdakka red
Squig Orange
Xereus Purple
Genestealer Purple
Warpfiend Grey
Slaanesh Grey
Alaitoc blue
Hoeth blue
Altdorf guard blue
Calgar blue
Teclis blue
Lothern blue
Sotek green
Temple guard blue
Kabalite green
Sybarite green
Warpstone glow
Moot green
Warboss green
Skarsnik green
Loren Forest
Straken green
Nurgling green
Elysian green
Ogryn camo
Ushabti Bone
Screaming skull
Tallarn sand
Karak stone
Cadian fleshstone
Kislev Flesh
Bestigor flesh
Ungor flesh
Skrag brown
Deathclaw brown
Tau light Ochre
Balor brown
Zamesi brown
Doombull brown
Tuskigor fur
Gorthor Brown
Baneblade Brown
Dawnstone
Administratum grey
Eshin grey
Dark reaper
Thunderhawk blue
Skavenblight dinge
Stormvermin fur
Ulthuan grey
Pallid wych flesh
Russ grey
Fenrisian grey
Pink horror
Emperors Children
Ironbreaker (metal)
Runefang steel (metal)
Gehennas gold(metal)
Auric Armour(metal)
Hashut Copper(metal)
Sycorax Bronze(metal)
Brass Scorpion(metal)
Runelord Brass(metal)

SHADES
Casandora Yellow
Fuegan Orange
Carroburg Crimson
Druchii Violet
Drakenhof Nightshade
Coelia greenshade
Biel-tan green
Athonian camoshade
Seraphim Sepia
Reikland fleshshade
Agrax earthshade (Devlan Mud)
Nuln Oil

DRY
Praxeti White
Hexos palesun
Kindleflame
Lucius Lilac
Etherium blue
Skink blue
Hellion green
Underhive ash
Eldar Flesh
Tyrant Shell
Terminatus stone
Longbeard grey
Changling pink
Necron Compound
Golden Griffon

GLAZE
Lamenters yellow
Waywatcher Green
Guilliman blue
Bloodletter

TEXTURE
Mourn Mountain snow
Stirland Mud
Blackfire Eath
Astrogranite
Armageddon Dust
Lustrian Undergrowth

TECHNICAL
Lahmian Medium
Ard coat
Imperial Primer
Liquid Green stuff

**Arrathon**

heard this yesterday at my shop as well. Apparently the entire paint line is going to be changed, something with the formula. I'm simply praying they go back to a similar pot they used to have cannot stand these new pots.

**Revarien**

Other than the GW washes, the only paint in their range that I will use (mainly due to their current pots) is their Bright yellow... I love it. The Bright Yellow is, imo, their best paint.

**Bakerofish**

They will be getting rid of the current paint pots

and they will be selling paint in the new, ultra-convenient paint applicator sachets

**tarnish**

Bakerofish wrote:They will be getting rid of the current paint pots

and they will be selling paint in the new, ultra-convenient paint applicator sachets

Plausible and i lol´ed

**vinsal**

I just hope they copy a lot of other good paint products and go dropper bottle style.

I like a variety of paints for different uses, but I hate my GW paint dry out. Not to mention the need for power tools to get some of the old screw top bottles open.

**-Loki-**

The only thing I hope they don't do is change the formula they use for their washes. They're by far the best thing in their paint range.

**spacewolf407**

The one color that I use the most is shadow grey. Guess its time to pick some up this weekend.

**kenshin620**

vinsal wrote:I just hope they copy a lot of other good paint products and go dropper bottle style.

I like a variety of paints for different uses, but I hate my GW paint dry out. Not to mention the need for power tools to get some of the old screw top bottles open.

Dropper bottles are nice but that sounds like a great excuse for gw to jack up prices by at least a dollar or so more!

**CT GAMER**

Why do i have a sinking feeling that Devlin Mud will get dropped despite it's mystical qualities...

**Absolutionis**

This is mind-blowing. Didn't GW just recently change their paint-pots yet again to conform the normal paints to their Foundations and Washes?

**-Loki-**

kenshin620 wrote:
vinsal wrote:I just hope they copy a lot of other good paint products and go dropper bottle style.

I like a variety of paints for different uses, but I hate my GW paint dry out. Not to mention the need for power tools to get some of the old screw top bottles open.

Dropper bottles are nice but that sounds like a great excuse for gw to jack up prices by at least a dollar or so more!

The buy Vallejo. They're colour matched to GW. The only things GW's range does better are foundation paints and washes.

**Necros**

I hope it means ..

1. they improved their tops so they stay open and don't annoy lazy painters like me

2. or better yet, they gave up and switched to Vallejo, and renamed them to Droppa Pots.

**Brother SRM**

I sincerely doubt they're changing their paint pots. They're probably going to drop some colors and get some new ones/old ones mixed in.

**SagesStone**

Maybe switching manufacturer unless they did so when they changed their pots last?

Though they could have found a cheaper formula and just go with that to make a little extra cash. I'm sort of hoping it's an improvement on the existing one. Though if not it'll just get me to swap over even faster.

**H.B.M.C.**

Will the new range be called FineDetail or something like that? Horribly miscast pots that don’t open properly (or close once open). Maybe the colour in every 4th or 5th pot is a little off what it should be?

Anyway, all this says to me is "Buy two pots of Liquid Talent and call it a day".

**Kirbinator**

CT GAMER wrote:Why do i have a sinking feeling that Devlin Mud will get dropped despite it's mystical qualities...

Thanks for that thought CT. Now I have to go buy two more pots of it just in case this actually happens. Fear-induced purchases; ugh.

**Happygrunt**

Hmm, better take inventory here, see if I need anything.

**The Dwarf Wolf**

tarnish wrote:
Bakerofish wrote:They will be getting rid of the current paint pots

and they will be selling paint in the new, ultra-convenient paint applicator sachets

Plausible and i lol´ed

Obviosly this will be followed by a price rise

**SagesStone**

H.B.M.C. wrote:Will the new range be called FineDetail or something like that? Horribly miscast pots that don’t open properly (or close once open). Maybe the colour in every 4th or 5th pot is a little off what it should be?

Anyway, all this says to me is "Buy two pots of Liquid Talent and call it a day".

FineCoat.

Months later they sell a kit containing some pigment to mix into some of the paints to fix them yourself.

**nels1031**

No thread is complete without some totally unique, witty and knee slappingly hilarious Finecast/Failcast/Finecost/etc. jokes! Despite it being not in one part related to the topic on hand, we need some in every thread!

I get that you don't like it, I think its poorly implemented as well, but bringing it up at every opportunity is getting tiresome and adds nothing to the overall conversation. There is an entire thread dedicated to that discussion, I believe.

On topic-

Please don't touch Washes and Foundation paints!

**Mastiff**

I really hope they don't change the formula. I love the properties of their paint as they are now. I own a set of Vallejo paints as well because they have a broader range of colours, but I've never been as happy with the properties.

**AgeOfEgos**

Bring back Brazen Brass!

Vallejo and P3 are both terrific---although they both have small pot issues as well. Vallejo has that "Is it coming out or..." *SPLOTCH* affect--and P3's lids seem to snap pretty easy. Of the 3, P3 is becoming my fav though--takes to glaze medium and mixing quite well.

**Scipio Africanus**

Necros wrote:I hope it means ..

1. they improved their tops so they stay open and don't annoy lazy painters like me

2. or better yet, they gave up and switched to Vallejo, and renamed them to Droppa Pots.

You're the kind of person who complains that their paints dry out.

Absolutionis wrote:This is mind-blowing. Didn't GW just recently change their paint-pots yet again to conform the normal paints to their Foundations and Washes?

They did it literally a week after I bought a mega paint set. [about a year ago]

Brother SRM wrote:I sincerely doubt they're changing their paint pots. They're probably going to drop some colors and get some new ones/old ones mixed in.

Probably.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Will the new range be called FineDetail or something like that? Horribly miscast pots that don’t open properly (or close once open). Maybe the colour in every 4th or 5th pot is a little off what it should be?

Anyway, all this says to me is "Buy two pots of Liquid Talent and call it a day".

This.

they will have a new pot called Paint Thinna [to fit in with 'ard coat] It will be used to thin paints. It will be composed of semi-pure Dihydrogenmonoxide.

They will charge 7 dollars a bottle, just to show how special the product is.

**Coolyo294**

I hope they don't switch to dropper tops.

**Mastiff**

AgeOfEgos wrote:Bring back Brazen Brass!

I'll second and third that. It annoys me to no end when I go to grab a new pot of scaley green or brazen brass to be told they don't make it anymore.
I found alternatives that are reasonably close, but I still prefer the GW stuff.

**SagesStone**

Wait they discontinued Brazen Brass?...

**Necros**

Scipio Africanus wrote:You're the kind of person who complains that their paints dry out.

Actually, no I don't

just takes a drop or 2 of water when you're done, and a good shake, and stays nice & fresh

And, I'd like to see em bring back Tentacle Pink

**Dysartes**

Mastiff wrote:I'll second and third that. It annoys me to no end when I go to grab a new pot of scaley green or brazen brass to be told they don't make it anymore.
I found alternatives that are reasonably close, but I still prefer the GW stuff.

Have you tried Coat D'Arms, which are the old colours in the old-style pots with slightly tweaked names?

**Ouze**

Huh, I rather like Vallejo's brass better than Brazen Brass, having tried them both. Vallejos seems to give better coverage. But yes, it does like plopping out the occasional is-it-paint-or-a-paint-fart bubble