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2012/01/07 07:42:31
Subject: How can this possibly actually be a point of contention?
I'm not sure some of these chicks even know what the question is actually asking... Sad. Just one more step towards the dumbing of America, like Jersey Shore...
2012/01/07 07:47:45
Subject: How can this possibly actually be a point of contention?
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
2012/01/07 09:15:46
Subject: How can this possibly actually be a point of contention?
I watched the whole thing hoping that at least one would have a clue, but alas..
I was impressed that the last chick (Miss Minnesota?) knew about Jean Paul II's views on evolution though!
Regardless, I'm sure I could work through the mental pain and anguish of listening to them speak and allow each and every one of them the opportunity to play with my gonads.
Im an equal opportunities kinda guy.. fairs fair and all that.
We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels.
2012/01/07 09:33:51
Subject: How can this possibly actually be a point of contention?
To be fair, they're pageant girls, they're not necessarily stupid so much as trying to win. This means being more of a shill for judges/voters than any politician. So, whether or not they believe what they say is at least equally in doubt.
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2012/01/07 09:40:22
Subject: How can this possibly actually be a point of contention?
Miss Alabama is dead against evolution. No surprise there. But we don't see all fifty respond, so hopefully there were some sensible responses too.
The common traps most of them fall into is that evolution is described as a 'theory' only in the common sense of the word, and that lots of different beliefs should be given equal weighting. Which is an admirable belief in some circumstances, here it is were not, for the fact that some ideas are distinctly more valid than others based on evidence.
2012/01/07 10:31:07
Subject: How can this possibly actually be a point of contention?
Scorpionov wrote:lol no wonder eveyone laughs at most anti-evolutionists i mean really? They wish to believe a book over facts....
We live in a world in which people are increasingly told that their opinion is important and valid all the time. Many of these claim that evolution is a belief, and creation is a belief, so they are at least equal. They were probably brought up believing in it, so it's hardly a surprise that they keep it as adults. But if you look at TV, you are always being told that your opinion is important there too. So many TV programmes now ask for audience participation, you have to call in to vote, you can text/tweet them and get your opinions read out or printed on screen. Your opinion, however inane, is considered valuable.
It's no wonder then that people increasingly think that everything on TV should pander to them all the time. The BBC has a charter for example, that they must create programming to cater for all, even minority groups. If a programme upset a member of the audience in the past, they could write a letter, and that was about it. Today, people have been raised with the belief that it's all some huge democracy and that their opinions should directly shape what is on TV, and that by jumping up and down shouting they get exactly what they want all the time regardless of the needs of others. They also get a wonderful feeling of power because they are used to influencing TV by expressing their opinion and often this is the case with many TV programmes. This is why you get programmes that get a series of complains from people who have not even watched it, they read about it second hand and immediately express their opinion for action to be taken, because it's just one more way for them to have their opinion valued and see large organisations, like TV channels, bend to their whim. Which is what happens when you get a flood of complaints, even if they are stupid or misconstrued in nature, an apology is issued.
2012/01/07 11:11:18
Subject: How can this possibly actually be a point of contention?
My thoughts echo the title, I have no idea how this could even be debated. Would you consider not teaching kids about gravity in school? How about the earth orbiting the sun?
2012/01/07 11:51:08
Subject: How can this possibly actually be a point of contention?
I think my own intelligence has suffered by watching the videos on this page. ¬¬
The Vatican didn't disapprove evolution when Darwin wrote his thesis, they just accepted it and said that most of the bible is just metaphisical. Funny how many Christians choose to ignore this and come up with inane reasons against the subject.
2012/01/07 18:29:39
Subject: Re:How can this possibly actually be a point of contention?
Wyrmalla wrote:I think my own intelligence has suffered by watching the videos on this page. ¬¬
The Vatican didn't disapprove evolution when Darwin wrote his thesis, they just accepted it and said that most of the bible is just metaphisical. Funny how many Christians choose to ignore this and come up with inane reasons against the subject.
You are now aware that not all Christians particularly care what the Vatican has to say.
There was a bit of a spat about this back in 1517.
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2012/01/07 19:32:25
Subject: How can this possibly actually be a point of contention?
That made my evening! I'm suffering from a severe bout of Man Flu right now (although because I'm a man it's not a cold, it's Ebola) and that cheered me up no end!
I really enjoyed Miss Idaho ( I think) and her useless attempts to swerve the question. Also, I can't remember which one it was, but the young lady who said that Evolution should not be taught in schools because of the various scientists differing ideas of what it actually is! Genius, pure unadulterated genius!
Could I also add that, as usual, Matty has cut too the heart of the matter! Good show sir!
2012/01/07 19:44:44
Subject: How can this possibly actually be a point of contention?
corpsesarefun wrote:My thoughts echo the title, I have no idea how this could even be debated. Would you consider not teaching kids about gravity in school? How about the earth orbiting the sun?
These are the same people that want to change the mathematical constant of π to 3, essentially desiring to alter the fundamental laws of geometry because they invariably suck at math and science and want to impose their religious views on others even when it is directly contradicted by reality.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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2012/01/07 19:51:49
Subject: Re:How can this possibly actually be a point of contention?
“You can't wish away reality. You can't ultimately ignore it. You can't bribe it off, reason with it or make a deal with it. You can curse it; condemn it as immoral and evil; you can make it illegal — but reality just Will. Not. Care. If your ideology or religion contradicts reality, well so much the worse for you and your ideas. Reality won't shift just to accommodate you.“
Just waiting for engineers to start to build bridges using the constant of 3 instead of Pi.
As others have said, evolution is like gravity. It's a theory with overwhelming evidence and scientific support. I think that if we don't teach evolution in schools, we shouldn't teach gravity.
"The Earth rotates the sun because God is holding the earth with an invisible hand and making it go in circles."
2012/01/07 23:55:13
Subject: Re:How can this possibly actually be a point of contention?
Pffft! What a joke. Of COURSE evolution should be taught in schools. Geeze, even my grandparents think that evolution doesn't conflict with the bible, and my grandfather is a preacher.
I think the whole reason Christians have problems with evolution is this: it seems that a lot of popular atheist scientists and thinkers (think Richard Dawkins) take every opportunity to say that as all species have evolved from a single cell, there can not possibly be a chance that there is a god/great being. Now, I am fine with that point (and I can see the logic behind that stance), but they make their point so forcefully that it seems as though they are just trying to piss religious people off. And then Christians get all pissed off back, and proceed to say stupid stuff like that found in the OP video, as they feel that evolution is a threat to their religion.
That's easy enough to say, but honestly it's also because quite a few people honestly believe in the "the world is 7000 years old) malarkey and other crap spouted by preachers down there. Probably moreso because of this than overactive atheists, as most of those "devout atheists" aren't likely people most of these girls have even heard of.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
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