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Made in nl
Fighter Ace






Hey there people!
Been lurkin here for ages, but decided to start sharing my own stuff too. Its not much, and it will be a continual growing and changing delusion, but bear with me... It'll be fun at least.
I used to play necromunda extensively way back when, but since a couple of moves lost touch with all the players. Now I did get some friends interested in some post-apocalyptic style gaming, so I decided I needed miniatures, terrain etc...
I'll show some of the stuff i have so far, and will keep on updating new things.

What I'd like you guys to do is comment, and comment a lot. But constructive! I love ooh's and aaah's as much as anyone, but its the criticism I can learn from!
So shoot down anything if ya think I can learn from it
Anyways, here goes, with my first piece of totally scratch terrain...


Its totally cardboard, and I don't think I actually measured anything. It was just fitting, cutting, fitting and maybe even cutting too much. But heck, I had fun!
Eventually its the paint that made it work, even for myself...

On to miniatures...
They're all combinations of space marine scouts, eldar wyches, catachans, cadians, and militia. Over time more and more GS (grey stuff) is becoming a standard on my models. You'll see once ya reached snow white

Please, again, comment all you like















And here she is, mostly greenstuff...

SNowWhite...!!!

but disturbed hehehe




They're random models, some belonging to gangs, others being just that, singles. As we combine different games to play our own post apocalyptic thingies, a single character is perfectly acceptable. Please, comment on all the minis, ask questions, post remarks!!

Thanx,

MauS


Yep, some need to be dusted off by the way

This message was edited 34 times. Last update was at 2015/02/10 16:59:04


Eh...
Inmygravenimage: That's sweet dude. I bet her ass is bad...
Camkierhi - What a load of rubbish... Amazing!
Rogue Wolves - Its rediculous how much character you pack into those guys
Skalk Bloodaxe: I know those will be awesome when finished, but right now they look like crackers.
Necro-pocalypse weirdness:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/424470.page
 
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut







Wow Man! Welcome! You have some awesome stuff! The crane/loader thing is scratchbuilt? It looks just like an old Tonka truck, that's what I tfirst thought the cab was from! Very cool painting too, the rust is quite effective on the yellow paint. As for criticism....you need more rivets

"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
 
   
Made in nl
Fighter Ace






Rivets... Hmm...

DSteingass

The crane is just good old cardboard, the thin stuff used to seperate layers in shipping boxes. At my workplace we recieve all the medicine in boxes with this layering. Its about the thickness of cereal packaging. The rust worked beautifully yeah. I now noticed i totally forgot to paint and weather the inside of the base construct... Hrm... touchup needed there...

But rivets...

Hmm...


Eh...
Inmygravenimage: That's sweet dude. I bet her ass is bad...
Camkierhi - What a load of rubbish... Amazing!
Rogue Wolves - Its rediculous how much character you pack into those guys
Skalk Bloodaxe: I know those will be awesome when finished, but right now they look like crackers.
Necro-pocalypse weirdness:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/424470.page
 
   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut







Hey man, the best modeling material will always be free modeling material! Rivets or skulls make anything instantly grimdark

"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
 
   
Made in nl
Fighter Ace






Yeah... been trying to avoid too much grimdark. I'd like the terrain to be useable in a lot of different games and settings... But rivets can't hurt. I promise, my next terrain piece will have rivets.

Eh...
Inmygravenimage: That's sweet dude. I bet her ass is bad...
Camkierhi - What a load of rubbish... Amazing!
Rogue Wolves - Its rediculous how much character you pack into those guys
Skalk Bloodaxe: I know those will be awesome when finished, but right now they look like crackers.
Necro-pocalypse weirdness:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/424470.page
 
   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut







Yes, Rivets are more timeless than diamonds.

"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
 
   
Made in au
Scarred Ultramarine Tyrannic War Veteran






Melbourne, Australia

I like your terrain and those minis are all full of character! Although you could probably straighten the hazard lines with some tape. Otherwise i don't have too much critism. great work.

Subscribed!


"Whilst we stand, we fight. Whilst we fight, we prevail. Nothing shall stay our wrath"
Guilliman and the Ultramarines are like Manchester United, everyone hates them because they are so awesome!

 
   
Made in de
Shroomin Brain Boy





Berlin Germany

hey...that is the second thread i follow now thanks to daves nudge in your direction...

a fellow cardboard builder! a merry welcome to dakka mate! i too dabbled quiet a bit with cardboard and made tanks and other stuff from that... and as for rivets... i use a holepunch set with different diameters to make quite convincing cardboard rivets... stuck on via a needle and then glue them on with PVA and you have a nice uneven surface that takes all to well to drybrushing!
the cardboard i like the most is the one from old collegepaper pads... they have a slightly riffeld surface and can look quite good as wooden texture...

if you are interrested go and visit my gallery...there you find at least two cardboard tanks that i pride myself are not imidiatly recognizable for their materials...

as for your minis... wow what a charcterful bunch...
that red/roagne ninja is by far my favorite mini of yours... he would be cool to see in a full squad... would you care as to share how you did his hat? i like that look very much...as i am currently making a brishish flavored steampunk army something like this could look quite good on some concripts or penial legionairs...from china^^
also i would like to ask how you did those clips on the flintlock pistol...this looks very convincing... i might need to nick that idea for my own weapon design scheme...

how much non GS bitz did you use on snowwhite? seems only head and arms are bitz...the rest is all sculpted? very convincing but a bit more muscular than i like my snowwhite LOL

also...what i really would like to see is more agnled shots of your minis... only one of each brings us to miss out on so many good features of your stuff... and i see there is in the background of your pics lots of nice stuff i have even now springing questions in my mind...

hope to see way more of that cool stuff!

vik

   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut







Micro Mark sells an interesting, although expensive little tool called a Parallel Cutter
http://www.micromark.com/parallel-cutter,8715.html
This thing interests me for masking smaller hazard stripes, and for masking off panel lines that I have already inked or washed with the airbrush. The smallest masking tape I have seen is 10mm wide stuff by Tamiya.
And cutting regular tape into consistently-sized smaller strips seems difficult.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/01/20 16:42:22


"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
 
   
Made in nl
Fighter Ace






Viktor von Domm wrote:hey...that is the second thread i follow now thanks to daves nudge in your direction...

as for your minis... wow what a charcterful bunch...
that red/roagne ninja is by far my favorite mini of yours... he would be cool to see in a full squad... would you care as to share how you did his hat? i like that look very much...as i am currently making a brishish flavored steampunk army something like this could look quite good on some concripts or penial legionairs...from china^^
also i would like to ask how you did those clips on the flintlock pistol...this looks very convincing... i might need to nick that idea for my own weapon design scheme...

how much non GS bitz did you use on snowwhite? seems only head and arms are bitz...the rest is all sculpted? very convincing but a bit more muscular than i like my snowwhite LOL

also...what i really would like to see is more agnled shots of your minis... only one of each brings us to miss out on so many good features of your stuff... and i see there is in the background of your pics lots of nice stuff i have even now springing questions in my mind...

hope to see way more of that cool stuff!

vik


Here's to answering all this...
First of, my penal ninja....
He's just regular cadian and catachan command squad bits. I used the crouching legs of a heavy weapon, and two suitable sword arms. The medic head (bald, with goggles) and a nice round bit of milliput. I shaped this flat and round, and when partially dry, indented it to look a bit conic in shape. Presto, one straw hat, simply done. I need to do some more soon, and will then post a little tutorial here.

The clips on the flintlocks... They are also pretty easily made. The catachan command sprue has a big serrated sword on it, with a straight edge on both sides, and a little bloodsleave. I just cut this up, took two straight pieces, and directly glued them to the weapons. The flintlock arms themselves are empire militia.

Snow WHite, yeah, she's a different story. My first nearly all milliput model.
Actually she was an accident. I used some GS to build up regular trousers on the guy in blue with the bolter, as to give him a proper-stuka-gothic-pants like my own, including the neon green lining. The blob of GS I had left ended up on the table, end soon found its way in the hands of my GF. She started rolling and turning it, fiddling as she does while wondering what the heck I am doing, when suddenly I saw the beginnings of a dress in it.
Now, my GF is a big disney fan, and soon the subject became disney princesses. So I decided to build snow white from there.
The bottom half as such is green stuff, while the buff muscular upper body is I believe all Dark eldar Wych. The hair is also greenstuff, and she's carrying a Dark eldar trident-thingy cut to shape. Also she's toting one of my new 'seven-dwarf-pattern' bolters/autoguns.

I'll post more pictures later, I've still to upload lots and lots more. Cardboard shuttles, a refinery, several loose bits and pieces, en at least 40 different models, all converted. I hate doing stuff the original way.

Anyways, if there's anything you guys want close-ups of, just tell me, and i'll see what I can do. Now first to dust of some stuff

Cheers,

MauS

Eh...
Inmygravenimage: That's sweet dude. I bet her ass is bad...
Camkierhi - What a load of rubbish... Amazing!
Rogue Wolves - Its rediculous how much character you pack into those guys
Skalk Bloodaxe: I know those will be awesome when finished, but right now they look like crackers.
Necro-pocalypse weirdness:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/424470.page
 
   
Made in de
Shroomin Brain Boy





Berlin Germany

now that is a sweet delivery of explanations...

so the coneshaped head looks more difficult than actualy is... ok...i am currently learning to use GS and my recent works are not that good...but i hopefully get better...^^

and i think you must have a pretty good eye for details...if a bloodsleave can be a mag for you!°° that is sure imaginative to say the least!

as for the snowwhite... well isn´t it nice to have GF that spices up the imagination and inspiration?

and by all means...post anything that you are able to come up with...if i have to sak for something special it would be that blue building that is in the background of some pics...

and...more views with different agnles of your recent minis!

   
Made in us
Fanatic with Madcap Mushrooms





Auburn CA

Plaids and a missle launcher... how can you go wrong?

 
   
Made in nl
Fighter Ace






I'm takin pictures as we speak. bear with me, lotta stuff will be on tonight.
Specially the blue building, and mini angles. Anthing else we want to see asap?

Eh...
Inmygravenimage: That's sweet dude. I bet her ass is bad...
Camkierhi - What a load of rubbish... Amazing!
Rogue Wolves - Its rediculous how much character you pack into those guys
Skalk Bloodaxe: I know those will be awesome when finished, but right now they look like crackers.
Necro-pocalypse weirdness:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/424470.page
 
   
Made in de
Shroomin Brain Boy





Berlin Germany

if you have more waepon modifications up your sleave i am more than eager to await these^^


sounds good...i am just yet on now and will have quite some time online now^^

   
Made in nl
Fighter Ace






Pictures say more than words...













More incoming in a bit... still uploading from camera to laptop. Feel free to shoot and/or ask anything guys! I love how the reactions pour in already

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/01/20 21:13:26


Eh...
Inmygravenimage: That's sweet dude. I bet her ass is bad...
Camkierhi - What a load of rubbish... Amazing!
Rogue Wolves - Its rediculous how much character you pack into those guys
Skalk Bloodaxe: I know those will be awesome when finished, but right now they look like crackers.
Necro-pocalypse weirdness:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/424470.page
 
   
Made in de
Shroomin Brain Boy





Berlin Germany

well that snowwhite makes me every time i see her/him chuckle^^ your seven dwarves" pattern bolter... is that a termie bolter or a vehicle SM bolter? with added grip and stock?

the blue squad looks very good...i would like to see a closeup of that base... is it texturized or did you just use a flat 2D methode to make it look raised...? just highlights?

that APC has a very nice urban camo...very convincing!

by the way your pics are now way better... much more focused... would love to see some of these minis in daylight tho... nothing beats daylight^^


More


hopefully^^

   
Made in nl
Fighter Ace






The bases are all just paint on flat bases. I paint them Vallejo Green grey, place some black lines, and highlight these on two sides with 50%greengrey/50%white. Then I 'low'light the other two sides with USA Tan or USA Field Drab. It immediately looks three-dee You can see the same type of bases in my earlier post. All finished models will get these bases. When the base is done, the model is done. (actually, a model is never done, but at that time i consider it so. If no, i never finish anything)

The bolter is a regular imperial guard cadian lasgun with the mag cut off. It was cut directly after the mag, and the end part of a space marine bolter (cut just before the handgrip) was glued to the rear. Instant Seven-Dwarf pattern boltgun , lasgun or autogun (whatever the gang can afford, its multi-possible)

The APC is a russian BRDM-2, scale 1/35. The paintjob is SU-27 Flanker or Mig 29 -style...

Eh...
Inmygravenimage: That's sweet dude. I bet her ass is bad...
Camkierhi - What a load of rubbish... Amazing!
Rogue Wolves - Its rediculous how much character you pack into those guys
Skalk Bloodaxe: I know those will be awesome when finished, but right now they look like crackers.
Necro-pocalypse weirdness:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/424470.page
 
   
Made in de
Shroomin Brain Boy





Berlin Germany

ah now i see how you did the SD pattern bolter...clever idea...but may i ask...did you leave the wing of the aquilla on purpose? it is just one wing now...it doesn´t look bad but i am a most curious one^^

so i thought... flat bases made by clever painting skills into 3D...cool!

   
Made in nl
Fighter Ace






Did I leave it on purpose... No...

I cut the bolter and only then noticed i had forgotten to shave it off. It works better when the bolter is still intact, i have something to hold on to that way. But it seemed an almost perfect half eagle, so i decided to let it stick. So it turned out a bonus, but I cannot take credit for things that happen by accident, however good the outcome may be...

Eh...
Inmygravenimage: That's sweet dude. I bet her ass is bad...
Camkierhi - What a load of rubbish... Amazing!
Rogue Wolves - Its rediculous how much character you pack into those guys
Skalk Bloodaxe: I know those will be awesome when finished, but right now they look like crackers.
Necro-pocalypse weirdness:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/424470.page
 
   
Made in de
Shroomin Brain Boy





Berlin Germany

lol...honesty gets you much further ...always^^... i had to ask becuase in some way it reminded me of the ravenwing of the DA...have a unfinished force of DA and when you work with bitz to spice up your SM you bought second hand you get to use these halfwings a lot^^

   
Made in nl
Fighter Ace






And the next batch:

First off, on popular demand, the blue building, followed by the green building





Nothing fancy, so army men tripwire, some cardboard, the accidental KRASH bit... But it breaks line of sight, and adds a height level.
Speaking of height levels... the green building:





And a tree



Now on to some modded weaponry:
















And angles, characters, thingies:












Not the best picture i shot, i know

















More to come, stay tuned!!

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/01/20 23:03:05


Eh...
Inmygravenimage: That's sweet dude. I bet her ass is bad...
Camkierhi - What a load of rubbish... Amazing!
Rogue Wolves - Its rediculous how much character you pack into those guys
Skalk Bloodaxe: I know those will be awesome when finished, but right now they look like crackers.
Necro-pocalypse weirdness:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/424470.page
 
   
Made in de
Shroomin Brain Boy





Berlin Germany

that pumpaction conversion i have seen from time to time...you used a bolter muzzle,eh?
that small laspistol thingy is very cute...cut up lasgun?
and my favorite has to be that HMP looking lasgun with the sights...is that again a catachan sword gone magazine? never saw that used before... thats what i like when new guys here on dakka come up with their stuff...always new and original stuff to see...!!!

and that crakced base looks even more stunning!

the blue building looks very good...i have to ask tho...that webbed window (or whatever it should pose as) structure on the front...what is it made of? also...don´t shy away for shwing in the futire some work in progress pics... always nice to see how peeps are tackling certain ideas...

as for the green building... first some critizisms...i would ahve not used flat cardboard here for the ladders... they look a tad too flat... more wooden sticks...or these long matches you might be able to get...heck even china wooden eating sticks would be good...but i think you are far from finished with this one...but the general shape is very promising...!

also i like how you mix WHFB stuff like militia bodies and then mount these then on Imperial guard torsos... i have done so on numerous times too...

and some time ago i have seen that methode of making palms/trees from...cones too... iirc they even used tp coat them with PVA and then tunr them in grass...

   
Made in nl
Fighter Ace






The pinecones I used a lot when building my 1/35 Vietnam diorama two years ago. They work better as palms than most aftermarket resin can ever achieve.

The green building was a try at building something fully cardboard. It failed I guess, and a new one will be done in plasticard and foamboard soon. But for gaming purposes it works.

The blue building's 'window' as you call it is the base of a WWII 1/35 scale mortar. I haven't actually considered it a window yet

The Mag is indeed a cut up sword, yep. The fancy laspistol itself is a boltpistol without mag and a lasgun nozzle. It also has a SM scout lasersight.


Eh...
Inmygravenimage: That's sweet dude. I bet her ass is bad...
Camkierhi - What a load of rubbish... Amazing!
Rogue Wolves - Its rediculous how much character you pack into those guys
Skalk Bloodaxe: I know those will be awesome when finished, but right now they look like crackers.
Necro-pocalypse weirdness:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/424470.page
 
   
Made in de
Shroomin Brain Boy





Berlin Germany

wouldn´t say failed to the green one...it isn´t just finished...there are many nice features... and like some have pointed out...rivets will almost everytime help to make a structure more convincing!

as you describe your conversions they become more clear to me... now i see those bitz and cuts that i would need to copy those too...very inventive!

also...well window or whatever^^ but it sure looks nice and meaningful...without meaning something in particular^^

   
Made in nl
Fighter Ace






Its usually just fidling with bits and my knife

After that its piecing things together. I try to give each model a bit of personality, so everyone is unique. Not much stock stuff here lol.

Edited my last picture post , it has even more pictures... some more weaponry too, and Cars! I love Cars!
And there's always more in my galery

Feel free to shoot at all of it people!!!

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/01/20 23:09:57


Eh...
Inmygravenimage: That's sweet dude. I bet her ass is bad...
Camkierhi - What a load of rubbish... Amazing!
Rogue Wolves - Its rediculous how much character you pack into those guys
Skalk Bloodaxe: I know those will be awesome when finished, but right now they look like crackers.
Necro-pocalypse weirdness:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/424470.page
 
   
Made in de
Shroomin Brain Boy





Berlin Germany

actually i was a bit confused...thought i grow forgetfull in my old days^^
these minis are all with character aplenty! great poses and you truly aim for individuality!

as you point out that you love cars...what scale are these? and where do you find them... i tried to get some cars...but either the kids are too fast and grab them earlier or they don´t fit the scale...

i would like to see you paint that still unprimed laspistol and tau" sword wielder...that is a very cool idea! a powerweapon? there is so many ideas here! i really have to take notes^^

specially that first of your newly added pics...the rocker with those nice pants...lol...

your painting style is very clean and more comicesque...something i cant do myself as i don´t have that good an eye hand coordination but i really like seeing that style...!

   
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Fighter Ace






Viktor, thank you for all your kind words. Ya startin ta make me blush

The cars are all scaled 1:43. Looks good enough with models on bases i guess... It should be 1:48 really, but see if ya can find those Nope...

More painting will be done over the weekend. I'm trying to commit to just picking 5 and finishing them. But with 40 or so on the bench, thats hard. I like them all too much... And there's so many ideas for even more...

When painting i try to just make it look good on table. Stuff like eyes and thingies i have yet to perfect. I do love to use clear colour schemes yas, and contrast on table and in my models. And any building mistakes I try to 'fix' with paint.

I'll see if i can select the lasgun thingy in the five to be painted this weekend. I should be able to do that I guess...

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/01/20 23:30:17


Eh...
Inmygravenimage: That's sweet dude. I bet her ass is bad...
Camkierhi - What a load of rubbish... Amazing!
Rogue Wolves - Its rediculous how much character you pack into those guys
Skalk Bloodaxe: I know those will be awesome when finished, but right now they look like crackers.
Necro-pocalypse weirdness:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/424470.page
 
   
Made in de
Shroomin Brain Boy





Berlin Germany

that would be nice...and no need for blushing...credit where credit is due^^

welll seems i have to go to bed now... lots of weekend stuff to do tomorrow...read you tomorrow too^^

cheers, vik

   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut







Vik is one of the best followers you can ask for on your thread dood!
Fortune and Glory kid, Fortune and Glory!

Anyways, I am blown away! You've got THE BEST style to all of your conversions man! Like Vik said, it's unique, it's fresh.
Thanks soo much for showing us more of your talent and style, keep it coming!

RIGHT!, on to business! you must elaborate more on your hazard stripe painting methods!!
so myself, and all the internets can steal it

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/01/21 02:49:26


"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
 
   
Made in nl
Fighter Ace






D, its all freehand man, all freehand... A layer of white, a layer of yellow, and on the fly black stripes. Hence the crookedness in places. I was just thinking i needed to try the taping method...

Eh...
Inmygravenimage: That's sweet dude. I bet her ass is bad...
Camkierhi - What a load of rubbish... Amazing!
Rogue Wolves - Its rediculous how much character you pack into those guys
Skalk Bloodaxe: I know those will be awesome when finished, but right now they look like crackers.
Necro-pocalypse weirdness:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/424470.page
 
   
 
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