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KillerAngel wrote:
 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
Does anybody know what the large backpack (c65) is for? I'm not talking about the medic-specific one. I can't work out who is supposed to have it?

If 12b is the medic, then c65 is the medic backpack.
Spoiler:


Hold up. I was convinced that the medic was the guy operating the wrist-mounted computer, and the backpack was the other one (c95)

I can't lie, I'm very disappointed if I've assembled the wrong dude.

Why aren't they labelled?

Edit: ignore this part...

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 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
Hold up. I was convinced that the medic was the guy operating the wrist-mounted computer, and the backpack was the other one (c95)

c95 backpack (on model 10b) is the pan spectral scanner. Model 11b is the comms array.
   
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Before I tear my model apart can you show me where you got the info from? What you are saying sounds correct but I'd like to be sure this time!
   
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If you can’t tell who the medic is, does it really matter? Probably a good chance your opponent has no clue either!!
   
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 bullyboy wrote:
If you can’t tell who the medic is, does it really matter? Probably a good chance your opponent has no clue either!!

Two wrongs makes a who cares.
   
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Just paint em white & stick a small red cross on one of their pouches, job done

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 Lord Damocles wrote:
 bullyboy wrote:
If you can’t tell who the medic is, does it really matter? Probably a good chance your opponent has no clue either!!

Two wrongs makes a who cares.


This. Who gives a feth? Just mark whoever, however you want, and make sure you tell your opponent who is who in the unit if they ask.

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Lord Damocles wrote:
 bullyboy wrote:
If you can’t tell who the medic is, does it really matter? Probably a good chance your opponent has no clue either!!

Two wrongs makes a who cares.


And yet, you cared enough to post

Pacific wrote:Just paint em white & stick a small red cross on one of their pouches, job done


Yeah, the paintjob will be doing they heavy lifting here

A Town Called Malus wrote: Who gives a feth?


Well, me, if that wasn't obvious?

But if that's your attitude why not just use cardboard tokens instead of miniatures? Or frozen turds with beards painted on if that's more your thing?

After all, who gives a feth?
   
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So I don't know for definite but I'm going with C95 as the scanner and C65 as the medic backpack. Although I think I'll do some converting to make them look a little more like a Doc.

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 Olthannon wrote:
So I don't know for definite but I'm going with C95 as the scanner and C65 as the medic backpack. Although I think I'll do some converting to make them look a little more like a Doc.

This is my impression as well. I was looking through some of the codex reviews to confirm, but no one actually showed the damn miniature pages.

The weird thing is, the medic is supposed to be unable to change their weapon loadout, but in all the photos, they have a pistol. No idea what that's about.

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 Scottywan82 wrote:
 Olthannon wrote:
So I don't know for definite but I'm going with C95 as the scanner and C65 as the medic backpack. Although I think I'll do some converting to make them look a little more like a Doc.

This is my impression as well. I was looking through some of the codex reviews to confirm, but no one actually showed the damn miniature pages.

The weird thing is, the medic is supposed to be unable to change their weapon loadout, but in all the photos, they have a pistol. No idea what that's about.


They all have an Autoch Bolt pistol, don't they?

But that's a bolt revolver which none of them can have, so....
   
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Scottywan82 wrote:
 Olthannon wrote:
So I don't know for definite but I'm going with C95 as the scanner and C65 as the medic backpack. Although I think I'll do some converting to make them look a little more like a Doc.

This is my impression as well. I was looking through some of the codex reviews to confirm, but no one actually showed the damn miniature pages.

The weird thing is, the medic is supposed to be unable to change their weapon loadout, but in all the photos, they have a pistol. No idea what that's about.


Yeah, there's no way for the medic to get that pistol. Also, why have they modelled the medic (if that's what it is) with a pistol and knife? Why not the bolter/Ion Blaster?

On a different note I love the picture in the codex of the Grimnyr with the alternative head, it's very cool. I'm looking forward to seeing what alternative options the as-yet unreleased other kits have.

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 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:

Scottywan82 wrote:
 Olthannon wrote:
So I don't know for definite but I'm going with C95 as the scanner and C65 as the medic backpack. Although I think I'll do some converting to make them look a little more like a Doc.

This is my impression as well. I was looking through some of the codex reviews to confirm, but no one actually showed the damn miniature pages.

The weird thing is, the medic is supposed to be unable to change their weapon loadout, but in all the photos, they have a pistol. No idea what that's about.


Yeah, there's no way for the medic to get that pistol. Also, why have they modelled the medic (if that's what it is) with a pistol and knife? Why not the bolter/Ion Blaster?

On a different note I love the picture in the codex of the Grimnyr with the alternative head, it's very cool. I'm looking forward to seeing what alternative options the as-yet unreleased other kits have.


I think these kits are probably done with both Killteam and also the next Codex in mind. Yes a bit annoying for the OCD in us but rather have more options than not, I think.
Also these sprues are so jam packed with stuff it's easy enough for conversions or alternative builds.
Absolutely lovely models they look even better irl.

   
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 A Town Called Malus wrote:
 Lord Damocles wrote:
 bullyboy wrote:
If you can’t tell who the medic is, does it really matter? Probably a good chance your opponent has no clue either!!

Two wrongs makes a who cares.


This. Who gives a feth? Just mark whoever, however you want, and make sure you tell your opponent who is who in the unit if they ask.


Exactly. Before the Plastic Cadian Command Squad came out with a medical bag, I used to use the Grenade Launcher spare magazine pouch painted a lighter shade of green with a small white cross on it.

   
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 alphaecho wrote:

Exactly. Before the Plastic Cadian Command Squad came out with a medical bag, I used to use the Grenade Launcher spare magazine pouch painted a lighter shade of green with a small white cross on it.

There was literally a metal Medic model that was a single piece sculpt(with an accompanying casualty model even!) in the old Command Squad box, so that's...odd to do.

Anyways, it's not like this is the first time for the medic setups to be strange. For quite some time the new Scions box told you to use the pistol with a saw underneath of it, despite there being no rules way to do that.
   
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 NAVARRO wrote:
 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:

Scottywan82 wrote:
 Olthannon wrote:
So I don't know for definite but I'm going with C95 as the scanner and C65 as the medic backpack. Although I think I'll do some converting to make them look a little more like a Doc.

This is my impression as well. I was looking through some of the codex reviews to confirm, but no one actually showed the damn miniature pages.

The weird thing is, the medic is supposed to be unable to change their weapon loadout, but in all the photos, they have a pistol. No idea what that's about.


Yeah, there's no way for the medic to get that pistol. Also, why have they modelled the medic (if that's what it is) with a pistol and knife? Why not the bolter/Ion Blaster?

On a different note I love the picture in the codex of the Grimnyr with the alternative head, it's very cool. I'm looking forward to seeing what alternative options the as-yet unreleased other kits have.


I think these kits are probably done with both Killteam and also the next Codex in mind. Yes a bit annoying for the OCD in us but rather have more options than not, I think.
Also these sprues are so jam packed with stuff it's easy enough for conversions or alternative builds.
Absolutely lovely models they look even better irl.


I think you're right RE Kill Team, it would explain the plethora of options.

Agreed about the models too, in hand they are even better than on screen. I'm so glad I decided to buy the box set!
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
 alphaecho wrote:

Exactly. Before the Plastic Cadian Command Squad came out with a medical bag, I used to use the Grenade Launcher spare magazine pouch painted a lighter shade of green with a small white cross on it.

There was literally a metal Medic model that was a single piece sculpt(with an accompanying casualty model even!) in the old Command Squad box, so that's...odd to do. t.


Not all of my Cadian Command Squads were made using metal Command Squad boxes.

Not all of my Imperial Guard armies were Cadians.

Those kitbashed counts as medical pack grenade launcher pouches ended up on Mordian, Praetorian and Tallarn models.

So, not really...odd to do.

   
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 alphaecho wrote:

Not all of my Cadian Command Squads were made using metal Command Squad boxes.

Not all of my Imperial Guard armies were Cadians.

Those kitbashed counts as medical pack grenade launcher pouches ended up on Mordian, Praetorian and Tallarn models.

So, not really...odd to do.


I agree. Conversions were kind of expected (or at least encouraged) even in the days of metal. Clever conversions -especially if obvious and facilitating good recognition- were seen as a very good thing. It was by no means expected that you would buy the same medic figure every time.

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 A Town Called Malus wrote:
 Lord Damocles wrote:
 bullyboy wrote:
If you can’t tell who the medic is, does it really matter? Probably a good chance your opponent has no clue either!!

Two wrongs makes a who cares.


This. Who gives a feth? Just mark whoever, however you want, and make sure you tell your opponent who is who in the unit if they ask.

Your sarcasm detector appears to be malfunctioning.
   
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The title comes across as a little....patronizing? Comparing it to the Land Train as if it's "better" than that idea was when it doesn't have the important reason people liked the Land Train, which was the whole thing of it being a Land Train.The only similarity they have is that they're both something big with lots of weapons. It's not really a suitable replacement for the idea.

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Agree 100%.

That will be a shame if they don't do a big super-heavy land train type thing, that was one of the opportunities that modern plastic production could have made the most of, by realising some of the potential from the old Epic range war engines.

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Nice to see some Votann love and I cannot wait for the kits to be released.
It's been a month or so after the collectors box so it's time for the army to land.

Hekaton looks amazing but not my most wanted kit, first I need all them suits and berserkers.
Still on the hunt for 5 more ironkin heads so if anyone wants to sell/trade just give me a shout.

   
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 NAVARRO wrote:
Nice to see some Votann love and I cannot wait for the kits to be released.
It's been a month or so after the collectors box so it's time for the army to land.

Hekaton looks amazing but not my most wanted kit, first I need all them suits and berserkers.
Still on the hunt for 5 more ironkin heads so if anyone wants to sell/trade just give me a shout.


When the next wave comes you can have any ironkin heads I get.


The land fortress looks better and better the more I see.

The land train wasn’t some amazing idea or model that should be replicated. It didn’t function very well as a concept at epic scale where there was room for a crazy long model, on the modern 40k table top you would not be able to place one anywhere. It was really a wacky concept model that was a sign of epic getting a bit silly, but then again epic could. But the idea that it should be held in high regard is just nostalgia turned up to 11.
   
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Andykp wrote:
The land train wasn’t some amazing idea or model that should be replicated. It didn’t function very well as a concept at epic scale where there was room for a crazy long model, on the modern 40k table top you would not be able to place one anywhere. It was really a wacky concept model that was a sign of epic getting a bit silly, but then again epic could. But the idea that it should be held in high regard is just nostalgia turned up to 11.
Sorry but


Maybe that is just your opinion, but this image says its wrong
   
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Andykp wrote:
 NAVARRO wrote:
Nice to see some Votann love and I cannot wait for the kits to be released.
It's been a month or so after the collectors box so it's time for the army to land.

Hekaton looks amazing but not my most wanted kit, first I need all them suits and berserkers.
Still on the hunt for 5 more ironkin heads so if anyone wants to sell/trade just give me a shout.


When the next wave comes you can have any ironkin heads I get.


The land fortress looks better and better the more I see.

The land train wasn’t some amazing idea or model that should be replicated. It didn’t function very well as a concept at epic scale where there was room for a crazy long model, on the modern 40k table top you would not be able to place one anywhere. It was really a wacky concept model that was a sign of epic getting a bit silly, but then again epic could. But the idea that it should be held in high regard is just nostalgia turned up to 11.


It was a string of superheavies. It's no more ridiculous than the Admech ordinatus models or having 3 baneblades in an army. Rather than having them move separatey, they join together and combine their void shields and energy, enabling them to being a rolling fortress.

There are plenty of people out there willing to make 40k scale Capitol Imperialis models, so I don't see anything innately more ridiculous than that.





   
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 Hellebore wrote:
Andykp wrote:
 NAVARRO wrote:
Nice to see some Votann love and I cannot wait for the kits to be released.
It's been a month or so after the collectors box so it's time for the army to land.

Hekaton looks amazing but not my most wanted kit, first I need all them suits and berserkers.
Still on the hunt for 5 more ironkin heads so if anyone wants to sell/trade just give me a shout.


When the next wave comes you can have any ironkin heads I get.


The land fortress looks better and better the more I see.

The land train wasn’t some amazing idea or model that should be replicated. It didn’t function very well as a concept at epic scale where there was room for a crazy long model, on the modern 40k table top you would not be able to place one anywhere. It was really a wacky concept model that was a sign of epic getting a bit silly, but then again epic could. But the idea that it should be held in high regard is just nostalgia turned up to 11.


It was a string of superheavies. It's no more ridiculous than the Admech ordinatus models or having 3 baneblades in an army. Rather than having them move separatey, they join together and combine their void shields and energy, enabling them to being a rolling fortress.

There are plenty of people out there willing to make 40k scale Capitol Imperialis models, so I don't see anything innately more ridiculous than that.






The ordinatus models were totally ridiculous, three baneblades was a tank company and they didn’t all tow each other in a really long line. It’s a model that has become iconic, but was an awkward model that wasn’t very good and barely used with very iffy rules. They struggled to make it work then let alone now in a bigger scale.

How often do people use their capitol imperialis models that they make, can they be deployed on any of the current 40k size battlefields?!??

What people are wanting here is a model that is likely to be minimum 18” end to end more likely around 24” long, for use in every day games. It just doesn’t make sense. Anyway we are arguing hypotheticals as it isn’t happening, I’m sure they discussed it and decided against it.


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pogey wrote:
Andykp wrote:
The land train wasn’t some amazing idea or model that should be replicated. It didn’t function very well as a concept at epic scale where there was room for a crazy long model, on the modern 40k table top you would not be able to place one anywhere. It was really a wacky concept model that was a sign of epic getting a bit silly, but then again epic could. But the idea that it should be held in high regard is just nostalgia turned up to 11.
Sorry but


Maybe that is just your opinion, but this image says its wrong


That made me do a little lol, bravo.

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Never, in the history of Dakka, has a comment been made that I disagree more strongly with xD

I don't think there was any concern about producing an overly large or impractical miniature, otherwise the likes of Super Heavies, Knights etc wouldn't have been produced in the first place.

And I think most grognards recognise the Land Train as the jewel in the crown of the Epic Squat range!

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 Pacific wrote:
Never, in the history of Dakka, has a comment been made that I disagree more strongly with xD

I don't think there was any concern about producing an overly large or impractical miniature, otherwise the likes of Super Heavies, Knights etc wouldn't have been produced in the first place.

And I think most grognards recognise the Land Train as the jewel in the crown of the Epic Squat range!


And what a range it was!! Can you imagine the rules arguments if they just made a 3 foot long land train and let it loose on the community! Ervery time the squats went to war a land train was squeezed into deployment zones at awkward angles. and the 1000x120mm oval base for it!

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They could do the land train as seperate parts, magnetic locks. Each segment on its own base with rules stating it must stay in base contact with the one before it in line at the end of a turn, or it becomes move Zero until you reattach it.
Could be a interesting style that is sorta unique vehicle unit. And they could add extra carriages.

Also rule for broadside weapons that buff them, so it looks like they turning it in the deployment zone if it’s too long lol.

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