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Did you order the wrong thing? All the new door sets have had a set for Repulsors available (well, for Loyalist chapters, at least).

When the repulsor came out, I thought GW advertised in one of their youtube videos that the repulsor doors were the same as an existing vehicle? Or am I remembering that wrong?

Forge World Preview: Khamûl the Easterling

 warboss wrote:
When the repulsor came out, I thought GW advertised in one of their youtube videos that the repulsor doors were the same as an existing vehicle? Or am I remembering that wrong?

I remember something like that - not sure if it was Rhino doors with some filling, or Land Raider doors with some trimming...

I prefer the old GW one to be honest.

 Fireball wrote:
Forge World Preview: Khamûl the Easterling

This is just... awful. What year is this model from?

Looks like a bad 3rd party sculpt.

For the lazy ones, GW's version of Khamul.

I find the new Khamul rather cool actually. It's just a pretty bland paintjob.

I think it a perfectly fine sculpt. It looks exactly like the Hobbit movie version. It is just the concept upon which it is based is not very good.

Chikout wrote:
I think it a perfectly fine sculpt. It looks exactly like the Hobbit movie version. It is just the concept upon which it is based is not very good.

This is my problem with nearly 90% of the The Hobbit sculpts from GW and FW. Is not that the sculpt per se is bad, but the quality of the design of the original trilogy is leagues ahead of the ones from the Hobbit.

Chikout wrote:
I think it a perfectly fine sculpt. It looks exactly like the Hobbit movie version. It is just the concept upon which it is based is not very good.

The sculpt is good if you compare it to some '90s stuff. But it lacks the finesse of CAD models, because it is so obviously a hand-sculpted piece. The spikes are a dead giveaway.

These Hobbit releases are just in no way on par with the AoS stuff we are seeing and that is tragic.

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

Chikout wrote:
I think it a perfectly fine sculpt. It looks exactly like the Hobbit movie version. It is just the concept upon which it is based is not very good.

The sculpt is good if you compare it to some '90s stuff. But it lacks the finesse of CAD models, because it is so obviously a hand-sculpted piece. The spikes are a dead giveaway.

These Hobbit releases are just in no way on par with the AoS stuff we are seeing and that is tragic.

While I'm not a fan of the sculpt either, the size (if that's a 25mm base) is in no way on par with the AOS stuff you're seeing either. Detail on a 35mm+ fig with exaggerated proportions won't correlate to a true 25-28mm one assuming the hobbit line maintains the scale of the earlier LOTR figs I'm familiar with.

Im not even annoyed by the lack of detail, its the hilariously bad proportions and pose I dislike... he looks like hes a kid wearing his mothers dress...

I like it. I really like the designs from the film too. Can’t wait to see the rest.

 warboss wrote:

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

Chikout wrote:
I think it a perfectly fine sculpt. It looks exactly like the Hobbit movie version. It is just the concept upon which it is based is not very good.

The sculpt is good if you compare it to some '90s stuff. But it lacks the finesse of CAD models, because it is so obviously a hand-sculpted piece. The spikes are a dead giveaway.

These Hobbit releases are just in no way on par with the AoS stuff we are seeing and that is tragic.

While I'm not a fan of the sculpt either, the size (if that's a 25mm base) is in no way on par with the AOS stuff you're seeing either. Detail on a 35mm+ fig with exaggerated proportions won't correlate to a true 25-28mm one assuming the hobbit line maintains the scale of the earlier LOTR figs I'm familiar with.

But we are seeing massively detailed models in 25mm proportions from GW. That is because CAD removes so much of the barrier. This is clearly a hand sculpt - you can see how the spikes are just clipped greenstuff. It is wild that FW, known for its high-end super-detailed models, put this mediocrity out. And the paint job is... either lazy or sloppy or both.

All around, I have been really unimpressed with FW lately on everything not HH related.

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

All around, I have been really unimpressed with FW lately on everything not HH related.

Their Necromunda Hired-Guns and resin models are beautifull. They have only shown 4, but they are all great, great sculpts.

If that's about the size of a Marine I'll buy one for the sole purpose of cutting off the hand/weapon for a Marine model.

I like it. The pose is simple but with focus. It's not garish or over the top blinged out like most of the AoS or 40k range. It's a good classic style matching the original LotR range. He immediately struck me as taking inspiration from Amdur from the Easterling range. Which with this being Khamul is very appropriate.


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Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
If that's about the size of a Marine I'll buy one for the sole purpose of cutting off the hand/weapon for a Marine model.

It's 28 mm realistic scale. A marine will look like an ape next to him.

Where are his poor legs? Somebody give him back please.

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

 warboss wrote:

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

Chikout wrote:
I think it a perfectly fine sculpt. It looks exactly like the Hobbit movie version. It is just the concept upon which it is based is not very good.

The sculpt is good if you compare it to some '90s stuff. But it lacks the finesse of CAD models, because it is so obviously a hand-sculpted piece. The spikes are a dead giveaway.

These Hobbit releases are just in no way on par with the AoS stuff we are seeing and that is tragic.

While I'm not a fan of the sculpt either, the size (if that's a 25mm base) is in no way on par with the AOS stuff you're seeing either. Detail on a 35mm+ fig with exaggerated proportions won't correlate to a true 25-28mm one assuming the hobbit line maintains the scale of the earlier LOTR figs I'm familiar with.

But we are seeing massively detailed models in 25mm proportions from GW. That is because CAD removes so much of the barrier.

Some would say that's a bad thing, a lot of GW's CAD models these days are more swirly-magic-smokey-clothy-stuff than actual miniature. Regardless, using a poor hand sculpt to trash the whole medium is nonsense, a lot of hand sculpted models put anything produced by GW in any format or medium to shame. CAD can make good models, or bad models, as with anything else it's the talent of the sculptor and how well they understand their medium that matters.

 It's a good classic style matching the original LotR range. 

This is how I see it as well. It looks like a callback model to the old days.

I myself would prefer it to be up to FW's or AoS' standards but it's not really that bad for what it is. I think the main problem is that it's in such a stark contrast to those qualities.

I'd make a remark about the paint job, but whenever I do, someone else needs to jump on me and tell me I'm wrong.

 Yodhrin wrote:

Some would say that's a bad thing, a lot of GW's CAD models these days are more swirly-magic-smokey-clothy-stuff than actual miniature. Regardless, using a poor hand sculpt to trash the whole medium is nonsense, a lot of hand sculpted models put anything produced by GW in any format or medium to shame. CAD can make good models, or bad models, as with anything else it's the talent of the sculptor and how well they understand their medium that matters.

And this sculptor doesn't get the medium. The static pose alone just is awful. The sculpting looks dated to the late '90s. It is not endearing to me when we have models out there layered in detail even at that scale. I look at my Skitarii and see this and just don't see how this could exist.




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 BrookM wrote:
I'd make a remark about the paint job, but whenever I do, someone else needs to jump on me and tell me I'm wrong.

You are not wrong. This is baaaaaaaaad. Real bad.

Dear god that's tragic, popeye arms arms down to his ankles, legs shorter than his torso, long neck or weird shaped head, godawful pose and the normal FW gak paint job.

I had heard that FW had lost the people who sculpted there character minis but I had not realized it was that bad.

New rule book for lotr sells out at at pre order stage so fw promo that to kill off peoples enthusiasm while they get more printed

Nothing wrong or dated with the pose. He's looking around for the next wizard who needs bashed on the noggin with that club. Better that than some ridiculous leaping about.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
Nothing wrong or dated with the pose. He's looking around for the next wizard who needs bashed on the noggin with that club. Better that than some ridiculous leaping about.

The pose is alright. But judging from his proportions, he's gotten bashed on his own noggin quite a bit. To the extent his bonestructure has folded like an accordion.

You know, being an ethereal spirit, I don't think bones are really a big concern of his anymore.

Problem is, he doesnt look scary, menacing, powerful... he looks like a kid in a halloween costume. Its scary how bad he is, compared to some of the other stuff GW/FW put out. Its like an employee let their 12yo sculpt it...

 Tyr13 wrote:
... he looks like a kid in a halloween costume. Its scary how bad he is, compared to some of the other stuff GW/FW put out. Its like an employee let their 12yo sculpt it...

Halloween costume. PERFECT. That is exactly what it looks like. Or a bad LotR cosplay.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
You know, being an ethereal spirit, I don't think bones are really a big concern of his anymore.

Regardless, he should probably straighten up a bit unless he want to look like a toddler wearing a bathrobe five sizes too large.