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Leo_the_Rat wrote: Quick question about the starter- Are all the tactical marines just bolters or is there an option for bolt pistol and chain sword?
It's looking like just bolters. Bolt pistol and chainsword will probably be an upgrade pack in the future.
I'd expect assault marines to get a full kit. GW loves its jumping stances and traditionally assault marines had a harness across the chest for the jump pack.
The poses for the units in the main box just don't work as assaults.
my biggest fear is if they put out a HH assault marine kit it'll have those fething FLIGHT STANDS!
I didn't truly understand the meaning of fear until I read this post
I’d like three options for assault marines, give them the parts to be able to be stood on the ground, leaping from a “tactical rock” (give them some variety, dead marines/solar etc) and the flying stands. Give people the option to make them how they want to.
No new legion update today, so we'll presumably get one each working day and be done on June 2nd. A two-week pre-order starting from June 4th would seem to make sense. Exciting times!
Wha-Mu-077 wrote: So, these are alternate builds for the Plastic Praetors, aye? They were both in the White Scars article.
sort of, the new kits have the standard arms that are slot on and off like all marines but the shoulder pads have part of the cape molded to them so if you want to leave the cape off you need different shoulder pads, otherwise the rest of the kit is compatible with all the other heresy stuff in the same manner a plastic mkIII or IV is.
Wha-Mu-077 wrote: So, these are alternate builds for the Plastic Praetors, aye? They were both in the White Scars article.
sort of, the new kits have the standard arms that are slot on and off like all marines but the shoulder pads have part of the cape molded to them so if you want to leave the cape off you need different shoulder pads, otherwise the rest of the kit is compatible with all the other heresy stuff in the same manner a plastic mkIII or IV is.
That is entirely unrelated to what i just said.
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Possible that the generic Praetor with the Sword has seperate Weapons with hands on it you could switsch with parts from other sets or a close weapon set.
Fafnir Rann is also very generic and you can switch both axes with other weapons.
Leo_the_Rat wrote: Does anyone have an MSRP breakdown the value of the starter box? GW said that it would be below $300 USD.
I can't find any of the models on the website.
Nearly all the models are new, but rough estimates:
40 mk vi marines @ $60 per 10, or maybe $90 or 100 per box of 20
10 cataphractii terminators @ $60 per 5
2 praetors @ $35 each
Contempt or dread @ $60 for the old plastic one
Spartan @ $130 to $140 probably
You won’t have long to wait to get your hands on this unbelievably packed boxed set, and while we can’t reveal full details of pricing, we can confirm that the set will cost less than £200 or $300 (US) when it launches. That’s a lot of Beakies for your bucks…
As it says "when it launches" it might still change afterwards I guess.
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It begs the question going forward will they replace only the most iconic or most popular resin kits into plastic? Things like the Leviathan are immensely popular in both Heresy and 40k, but what else would realistically be in plastic?
My hopes is that they release a "character upgrade" box that would allow you to further Customisation to praetors, including making them into their specialised roles, such as master of signals, champion, etc. In their specific Mk of armours too.
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I've heard it told that legion-specific units and primarchs would remain in resin, but everything shared between multiple legions would at least be a candidate for plastic.
Agamemnon2 wrote: I've heard it told that legion-specific units and primarchs would remain in resin, but everything shared between multiple legions would at least be a candidate for plastic.
I hope this stays the case for a long time. I’d rather see the plastic range expanded into other factions before they start adding legion specific units in plastic.
MonkeyBallistic wrote: I hope this stays the case for a long time. I’d rather see the plastic range expanded into other factions before they start adding legion specific units in plastic.
I'd be worried for you that we won't see the same push to plastic for other factions, because you'd be talking about a lot of kits that wouldn't have the same potential sales as appealing to marine players. As it stands, making more legion kits is almost a braindead easy choice for GW because of the sheer number of legion players. I suspect mechanicum will see some of their base units in plastic but that's it.
Most generic stuff is already plastic. The only things missing would be Assault and Breacher squads with perhaps a form of power armoured Recon squad.
For most vehicles its just patterns and the gist seems to be that anything removed from the FW range in recently will be getting plastic kit e.g. Deimos vehicles.
MonkeyBallistic wrote: I hope this stays the case for a long time. I’d rather see the plastic range expanded into other factions before they start adding legion specific units in plastic.
I'd be worried for you that we won't see the same push to plastic for other factions, because you'd be talking about a lot of kits that wouldn't have the same potential sales as appealing to marine players. As it stands, making more legion kits is almost a braindead easy choice for GW because of the sheer number of legion players. I suspect mechanicum will see some of their base units in plastic but that's it.
Custodes would make sense since their units are used in 40k
MonkeyBallistic wrote: I hope this stays the case for a long time. I’d rather see the plastic range expanded into other factions before they start adding legion specific units in plastic.
I'd be worried for you that we won't see the same push to plastic for other factions, because you'd be talking about a lot of kits that wouldn't have the same potential sales as appealing to marine players. As it stands, making more legion kits is almost a braindead easy choice for GW because of the sheer number of legion players. I suspect mechanicum will see some of their base units in plastic but that's it.
Custodes would make sense since their units are used in 40k
That seems like something gw might hold back until the next custodes codex release. At least with the sicaran he is willing to port units directly from resin to plastic again instead of making alternate designs, so hopefully the caladus and custodes contemptors get plasticized.
I hope the project is enough of a success that they begin to port some of the "units of renown" over to plastic. The quality of resin sculpts is so uneven. The NL Contekar Elite and DA Cenobium terminators are magnificently well sculpted. The Salamander Firedrakes and pyroclasts are just mushy messes of poorly sculpted texture. Feels like a long shot though, maybe we'll see a DA/BA/SW unit, but I'm not holding out hope.
There were rumors of faction-specific upgrade sprues. I really hope those look more like the Black Templar kit than the six-legion-specific upgrade blisters. This would be an awesome area to go overboard and have lots of faction-specific bits so people can really make their armies their own.
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