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Hi there
I have a list of an Eldar 1100p army that needs to change down to 1000p.
My question is what you would add/remove to make it 1000p?

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HQ
1x Farseer 55p
+ Doom 25p
+ Guide 20p
+ Spirit Stones 20p
+ Runes Of Wintessing 10p
+ Runes Of Warding 15p

1x Avatar Of Khaine 155p
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Troops
10x Guardians 80p
+ Starcannon 25p
+ Warlock 25p
+ Conceal 15p
+ Singing Spear 3p

10x Dire Avengers 120p
+ Exarch 12p
+ Powerweapon & Shimmershield 15p
+ Bladestorm 15p
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Dedicated Transport
1x Wave Serpent 90p
+ Twin Linked Starcannons 35p
+ Vectored Engines 20p
+ Spirit Stones 10p
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Heavy Support
1x Wraithlord 90p
+ Eldar Missile Launcher 25p
+ Starcannon 30p

1x Warwalker Squadron (3 Walkers) 90p
+ 3x3 Scatter Laser 90p
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TOTAL 1100p
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Alright, well before we begin, I think its against Dakka rules to post individual points cost for upgrades.

As for your list, I would lose all the starcannons you have there. Switch them for scatter lasers or missile launchers. those are cheaper and actually better at their jobs. Starcannons look really cool on paper, not so much on table unfortunately!

Vectored engines are useless unless you plan on going flat out all the time, which isn't the point really. I would also switch the exarch to dual cats. Shimmershield looks sweet, but 15 points for a 5++ only in combat? Not so worth it.

I'm not sure about the avatar to be honest. Your guardians will want to be guarding the home objective, and your DA are embarked. The avatar's fearless bubble also has no effect on the WL who will want to be close to a psyker anyway. I would either go for a footslogging list, in which you lose the wave serpent, which gets you just under 1000 points, or I would lose the avatar and WL, get a small fire dragon squad and stick them in a falcon or wave serpent. You need more anti-tank in there either way. If you don't want FD, then missile launchers, maybe a couple BL, is the way to go.

First point, needs more anti-tank. I think that the avatar should go, as you only have 2 units thta need it's fearless rule and its points aren't really worth it in this size of army.
Farseer upgrades look good.
Fire dragons or mass bright lances or missile launchers are my main comment.

Good points you guys make there. I have to say though, that my "fellow" enemies don't field much tanks at all. There is this one Land Raider... in like 10% of the games. Other than that its mostly AV10 - AV11 cans.
So with that in mind would you still go for more anti tank? Ans about the Starcannons, they can't be that bad against MEQ armies?

I personally like star cannons, but I usually go with twin-linked shuriken cannons. For anti-meq, I would go with the star cannons though

After some thinking I came up with this Alaitoc themed force. improvement or not?

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HQ
1x Farseer 55p
+ Doom 25p
+ Guide 20p
+ Spirit Stones 20p
+ Runes Of Warding 15p
+ Singing Spear 3p
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Troops
11x Dire Avengers 132p
+ Exarch 12p
+ Powerweapon & Shimmershield 15p
+ Bladestorm 15p

5x Rangers 95p
+ Pathfinders 25p

5x Rangers 95p
+ Pathfinders 25p
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Dedicated Transport
1x Wave Serpent 90p
+ Twin Linked Scatter Lasers 25p
+ Spirit Stones 10p
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Heavy Support
1x Fireprism 115p
+ Spirit Stones 10p

1x Warwalker Squadron (3 Walkers) 90p
+ 3x3 Scatter Laser 90p
+ 3x Spirit Stones 15p
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TOTALT 997p
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Better, though the spirit stones on the fire prism are unnecessary as it's main role is firing. If it can't move, no big deal.

Made this final list based on the input you guys gave me.
Will be painted in a Alaitoc theme.
What do you think?

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HQ - 135p

1x Farseer 55p
+ Doom 25p
+ Guide 20p
+ Spirit Stones 20p
+ Runes Of Warding 15p
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Troops - 429p

10x Guardians 80p
+ Scatter Laser 15p
+ Warlock 25p
+ Conceal 15p

11x Dire Avengers 132p
+ Exarch 12p
+ Powerweapon & Shimmershield 15p
+ Bladestorm 15p

5x Rangers 95p
+ Pathfinders 25p
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Dedicated Transport - 125p

1x Wave Serpent 90p
+ Twin Linked Scatter Lasers 25p
+ Spirit Stones 10p
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Heavy Support - 310p

1x Fireprism 115p

1x Warwalker Squadron (3 Walkers) 90p
+ 3x3 Scatter Laser 90p
+ 3x Spirit Stones 15p
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TOTALT 999p
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Good looking list, but I don't think you can have 11 dire avengers in a squad. I believe the exarch replaces a guy.

Your right. Tought it was 12 models maximum.


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The final touches made this list. Please tell me what you think of it. In the optional list Maugan Ra is intened to join the guardian squad.

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HQ - 138p

1x FARSEER 55p
<Psychic Powers>
Doom 25p
Guide 20p
<Wargear>
Spirit Stones 20p
Runes Of Warding 15p
<Weapons>
Singing Spear 3p
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Troops - 426p

12x GUARDIANS #1 96p
<Weapons>
Scatter Laser 15p
<Uppgrades>
1x WARLOCK 25p
<Psychic Powers>
Conceal 15p
<Weapons>
Singing Spear 3p

10x DIRE AVENGERS 120p
<Uppgrades>
1x EXARCH 12p
<Weapons>
2x Shuriken Catapult 5p
<Skills>
Bladestorm 15p

5x RANGERS 95p
<Uppgrades>
Pathfinders 25p
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Dedicated Transport - 125p

1x WAVE SERPENT 90p
<Weapons>
Twin Linked Scatter Lasers 25p
<Uppgrades>
Spirit Stones 10p
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Heavy Support - 310p

1x NIGHT SPINNER 115p

3x WARWALKERS 90p
<Weapons>
3x3 Scatter Laser 90p
<Uppgrades>
3x Spirit Stones 15p
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TOTAL 999p
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Optional - 500p

1x MAUGAN RA 195p

12x GUARDIANS #2 96p
<Weapons>
Scatter Laser 15p
<Uppgrades>
1x WARLOCK 25p
<Psychic Powers>
Conceal 15p

1x WRAITHLORD 90p
<Weapons>
Wraithsword 10p
Bright Lance 40p

UPPGRADE ON GUARDIAN SQUAD 1 (WARLOCK)
Spirit Seer 6p
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TOTAL 1499p
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I think that Maugan Ra is a bit unsuited for this army, as only one unit, which is anti-infatry, can get to the enemy quickly.

I will have to say pls stop writing down the seperate point costs because it is 1:illegal on the forum i think and 2:it is really hard to read it (it becomes a smudge). Just write down the unit, its upgrades and the TOTAL COST!

As for list advice I would say that the last list certainly is better since solo prisms don't work that well. If you could find 45 points for holofields and stones on the spinner I think it would be great, if you get shot the chances of destruction are greatly reduced and if you get shaken you can (because of 24" movement) move out of the firer's sights and get a 4+ cover save as a bonus!


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Oh and one final advice, don't let the internet influence you to much. It's like the codex Astartes, a set of guidlines, not rules

Okey.
Gar'Ang, I will stop writing the point cost. Sorry about that.
After some more thinking and wanting to paint Alaitoc Eldar I made this list which I think is final. The idea is that both the farseer and the Autharc joins the 10 man Dire avengers in the Wave Serpent for some disturbing damage output.

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HQ

1x Farseer
+ Doom
+ Guide
+ Spirit Stones
+ Runes Of Warding
+ Singing Spear

1x Autarch
+ Mandiblaster
+ Fusion Gun
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Troops

10x Dire Avengers
+ Exarch
+ Powerweapon & Shimmershield
+ Bladestorm

5x Rangers
+ Pathfinders
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Dedicated Transport

1x Wave Serpent
+ Twin Linked Scatter Lasers
+ Spirit Stones
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Heavy Support

1x Night Spinner
+ Holo-field
+ Spirit Stones

1x Warwalker Squadron (3 Walkers)
+ 3x3 Scatter Laser
+ 3x Spirit Stones
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TOTAL 1000p
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