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Hey guys,,,,
New player here thinking of starting into Warmahordes, and like the look of Everblight. Can anyone give me a rough rundown of the different factions and their main abilities please... I found the PP website to be quite unhelpful, unless I am navigating it wrong.

Also what are the current balances of metal to plastic or resin minis for Warmahordes?? I personally hate metal as a material to work with, and would like to try and avoid it where possible, even if it means waiting for things to be released in a different medium.

Also also (;-)) are there currently any Hordes starter boxes out??

Thanks folks..

The current plastic models are:

Cygnar

- Battlebox (Stryker, Lancer, Charger, Ironclad)
- Heavy Warjack Kit (parts for a Cyclone, Defender, or Ironclad)
- Other Heavy Warjack Kit (parts for a Avenger, Centurion, or Hammersmith) (not yet available)
- Charger
- Lancer
- Firefly
- Storm Strider (mix of metal and resin)
- Stormwall (not yet available, mix of metal and resin)

Protectorate of Menoth

- Battlebox (Kreoss, Revenger, Repenter, Crusader)
- Heavy Warjack Kit (parts for a Crusader, Templar or Vanquisher)
- Other Heavy Warjack Kit (parts for a Castigator, Reckoner or Sanctifier) (not yet available)
- Revenger
- Repenter
- Vigilant
- Redeemer
- Exemplar Bastions
- Exemplar Cinnerators
- Exemplar Errants (not yet available)
- Knights Exemplar (not yet available)
- Vessel of Judgement (mix of metal and resin)
- Adjuicator (not yet available, mix of metal and resin)

Khador

- Battlebox (Sorscha, Destroyer, Juggernaught)
- Heavy Warjack Kit (parts for a Destroyer, Juggernaught, Marauder, or Decimator)
- Other Heavy Warjack Kit (parts for a Demolisher, Devastator, or Spriggan) (not yet available)
- Man-o-Wars (three different units)
- Gun Carriage (mix of metal and resin)
- Conquest (not yet available, mix of metal and resin)

Cryx

- Battlebox (Denegrah, Deathripper x 2, Defiler, Slayer)
- Heavy Helljack Kit (parts for a Corrupter, Reaper, or Slayer)
- Crabjack Helljack Kit (parts for a Desecrator, Harrower, or Leviathan) (not yet available)
- Ripjaw (2 warjacks)
- Deathripper (2 warjacks)
- Defiler (2 warjacks)
- Nightwretch (2 warjacks)
- Wraith Engine (mix of metal and resin)
- Kraken (not yet available, mix of metal and resin)

Retribution of Scyrah

- Heavy Warjack Kit (parts for a Hydra, Manticore or Phoenix)
- Other Heavy Warjack Kit (parts for a Banshee, Daemon, or Sphinx)
- Arkantrik Force Generator (mix of metal and resin)
- Hyperbion (not yet available, mix of metal and resin)

Mercenaries

- Heavy Warjack Kit (parts for a Mule, Rover or Mangler)

Trollbloods

- Battlebox (Madrak, two impalers, axer)
- Heavy warbeast kit (parts for Blitzer, Bomber or Mauler)
- Fennblades (10 man box)
- War Wagon (mix of metal and resin)

Legion of Everblight

- Battlebox (Lylith, four shredders, Carnivean)
- Heavy warbeast kit (parts for Carnivean, Ravagore or Scythean)
- Blighted Ogrun Warspears (5 man box)
- Throne of Everblight (mix of metal and resin)

Skorne

- Battlebox (Morgul, two brutes, gladiator)
- Heavy warbeast kit (parts for Cannoneer, Gladiator or Sentry)
- Siege animantarax (mix of metal and resin)

Circle

- Battlebox (Kaya, two argus, warpwolf)
- Heavy warbeast kit (parts for Feral , Pureblood or Stalker Warpwolf)
- Celestrial fulcrum (mix of metal and resin)

The plastic hordes starter boxes are coming out in May (first half?)

Edit: Did the sticky at the top of the page not help with finding out about the different factions?

Edit, edit: what about this thread?

Welcome to the game, I hope you love it.
There are stickys here on dakka that can probably help you with faction identities.
The vast majority of models are still metal but, aside from some of the very first ones, they are easier to assemble than you are probably used to. The plastic is almost certainly different from what you are used to as well, don't use plastic cement. The hordes plastic battlegroups come out in May. There is very little resin right now, it seems to be reserved for very bulky parts.

Dais wrote:The plastic is almost certainly different from what you are used to as well, don't use plastic cement.

Wait, why? Does it melt the plastic or something?

that's what plastic cement is suppose to do, slightly melt the plastic to get a good bond between the two pieces. Because PP use a different type of plastic in their kits the plastic cement will only get those wet. You'll have to use CA glue on all of PP's stuff.

yastobaal wrote: that's what plastic cement is suppose to do, slightly melt the plastic to get a good bond between the two pieces. Because PP use a different type of plastic in their kits the plastic cement will only get those wet. You'll have to use CA glue on all of PP's stuff.

I see. I meant melt it as in plastic glue on polystyrene melt. I didn't want to make an expensice mistake!

Vichyssoise wrote:... I found the PP website to be quite unhelpful, unless I am navigating it wrong.

Are you refering to http://privateerpress.com/ or their forums http://privateerpressforums.com/ because the former is just a standard company site. The latter is full of exactly the information you're seeking.

Requests like

Vichyssoise wrote:Can anyone give me a rough rundown of the different factions and their main abilities please...

get asked so often by people that can't be bothered to use the search function that they created stickies and a sub-forum specifically to deal with that sort of person.

A load of helpful comments of which I am extremely thankful, but there always has to be one person to turn the tables.

This is a forum. I asked a question, which I am free to do, and others have answered, for which I am grateful... Please don't lower the tone...

Vichyssoise wrote:A load of helpful comments of which I am extremely thankful, but there always has to be one person to turn the tables.

This is a forum. I asked a question, which I am free to do, and others have answered, for which I am grateful... Please don't lower the tone...

You asked a question and I answered in a direct and helpful manner. Please don't lower the tone by impling I did anthing more than what I did. If you don't want there to be people that turn the tables the best place to start is by not being that person yourself.

Castiel wrote:

yastobaal wrote: that's what plastic cement is suppose to do, slightly melt the plastic to get a good bond between the two pieces. Because PP use a different type of plastic in their kits the plastic cement will only get those wet. You'll have to use CA glue on all of PP's stuff.

I see. I meant melt it as in plastic glue on polystyrene melt. I didn't want to make an expensice mistake!

Yes, IIRC PPs "plastic" is actually resin, I haven't gotten any personally but I think their resin is heavier than GW's and less prone to defect.

dripwelquest wrote:

Vichyssoise wrote:A load of helpful comments of which I am extremely thankful, but there always has to be one person to turn the tables.

This is a forum. I asked a question, which I am free to do, and others have answered, for which I am grateful... Please don't lower the tone...

You asked a question and I answered in a direct and helpful manner. Please don't lower the tone by impling I did anthing more than what I did. If you don't want there to be people that turn the tables the best place to start is by not being that person yourself.

Actually, your last sentence comes across as rather dismissive and asinine. "people that can't be bothered" generally implies you find people lazy and ignorant, and no one likes being called either of those things.

Squidmanlolz wrote:

Castiel wrote:

yastobaal wrote: that's what plastic cement is suppose to do, slightly melt the plastic to get a good bond between the two pieces. Because PP use a different type of plastic in their kits the plastic cement will only get those wet. You'll have to use CA glue on all of PP's stuff.

I see. I meant melt it as in plastic glue on polystyrene melt. I didn't want to make an expensice mistake!

Yes, IIRC PPs "plastic" is actually resin, I haven't gotten any personally but I think their resin is heavier than GW's and less prone to defect.

It's not resin, it's PVC-esque plastic. GW uses polystyrene.

Laughing Man wrote:

Squidmanlolz wrote:

Castiel wrote:

yastobaal wrote: that's what plastic cement is suppose to do, slightly melt the plastic to get a good bond between the two pieces. Because PP use a different type of plastic in their kits the plastic cement will only get those wet. You'll have to use CA glue on all of PP's stuff.

I see. I meant melt it as in plastic glue on polystyrene melt. I didn't want to make an expensice mistake!

Yes, IIRC PPs "plastic" is actually resin, I haven't gotten any personally but I think their resin is heavier than GW's and less prone to defect.

It's not resin, it's PVC-esque plastic. GW uses polystyrene.

This.

PP DOES have resin(Bane Thralls shoulder pads, Bronzeback Titan, Behemoth, Battle Engines, and Colossals), but it's similar to FW's resin styles in both texture and color.

If I ever get a chance to ask any member of the PP staff anything, I think I will forgo spoilers and just ask them what the chemical makeup and production method of their plastic is just to end the debate and prove it isn't resin!

This is so funny, I was just debating the same thing as any metal videos I see seem daunting to use. Now that I know that most of their units are metal anyways, well no reason to wait. Can PP's brand of glue work on the metal parts?

Dais wrote:If I ever get a chance to ask any member of the PP staff anything, I think I will forgo spoilers and just ask them what the chemical makeup and production method of their plastic is just to end the debate and prove it isn't resin!

It's Polyvinyl chloride.

Emerett wrote:

Dais wrote:If I ever get a chance to ask any member of the PP staff anything, I think I will forgo spoilers and just ask them what the chemical makeup and production method of their plastic is just to end the debate and prove it isn't resin!

It's Polyvinyl chloride.

Yep.

Hell, if you really want, I can text Ed Bourelle right now and have it confirmed for you.

He'll just think it's odd, though, since I've already asked him before.

So, plain ol' PVC? or is there something else to it?

Vichyssoise wrote:Hey guys,,,,
New player here thinking of starting into Warmahordes, and like the look of Everblight. Can anyone give me a rough rundown of the different factions and their main abilities please... I found the PP website to be quite unhelpful, unless I am navigating it wrong.

Also what are the current balances of metal to plastic or resin minis for Warmahordes?? I personally hate metal as a material to work with, and would like to try and avoid it where possible, even if it means waiting for things to be released in a different medium.

Also also (;-)) are there currently any Hordes starter boxes out??

Thanks folks..

I'm in the same boat as you, I hate metal as well. I chose Menoth and fortunately they have put out a ton of plastics so far so I have a pretty nice force. Must-have units like the choir are not out in plastic yet but I just proxy them with other minis I have from other games.

Am I the only one who prefers metal?

I really don't care either way. I like both so long as the quality is good.

I'm kind of glad there's so much resin for the Battle Engines though.

Hi OP!. Welcome to warmahordes!s (i'm pretty new to the game myself)

In regard to the plastics, i quite like them, they can be a little bendy at times, but i've found i pretty easy to work with. the models themselves (i'm pretty new to the game myself) I'm finding them a joy to paint. Kinda refreshing to have models without skulls and widgets everywhere. I now have about 20 points of models painted, it is reallly amazing once started how fast your force gets painted. That being one jack ( magneised so it is 4 jacks in reality),a unit of widow makers (snipers) and a pretty standard unit of infantry named the winterguard.
I totally advocate painting them, for a small investment of time you get units you will use in many many many lists. In a similar vein investigate which jacks from the starter box can be magnetised to save you both money and time.

Check out the stickies, i know you wanted an answer here , but keep in mind most of the guys here have given out advice many, many times, and that is why they are stickies. before you make purchases read up on the faction, although in regard to this game most and i do mean MOSt of a faction is viable. I have khador and i'd say about 90% of the units/jacks/solos are viable ingame, which is very different to other games!

enjoy!

More complete list of models:

Cygnar
- Battlebox - Stryker1, Charger, Lancer, Ironclad
- Heavy Warjack Kit 1 - Parts for a Cyclone, Defender, or Ironclad
- Heavy Warjack Kit 2 - Parts for an Avenger, Centurian, or Hammersmith (Date TBA)
- Charger
- Lancer
- Firefly
- Sentinal
- Storm Strider (Resin and white metal)
- Stormwall (Resin and white metal, available in June)

Protectorate of Menoth
- Battlebox - Kreoss1, Repenter, Revenger, Crusader
- Heavy Warjack Kit 1 - Parts for a Crusader, Templar, or Vanquisher
- Heavy Warjack Kit 2 - Parts for a Reckoner, Castigator, or Sanctifier
- Repenter
- Revenger
- Redeemer
- Vigilant
- Exemplar Bastions
- Exemplar Cinerators
- Knights Exemplar (Soon to be released)
- Knights Exemplar Errants (Soon to be released)
- Vessel of Judgement (Resin and white metal)
- Judicator (Resin and white metal, date TBA)

Khador
- Battlebox - Sorscha1, Destroyer, Juggernaught
- Heavy Warjack Kit 1 - Parts for a Destroyer, Juggernaught, Marauder, or Decimator
- Heavy Warjack Kit 2 - Parts for a Devestator, Demolisher, or Spriggan (Date TBA)
- Man-o-War Shocktroopers
- Man-o-War Demo Corps.
- Man-o-War Bombardiers
- Man-o-War Drakhun (rebox with mixed materials)
- Gun Carriage (Resin and white metal)
- Conquest Colossal (Resin and white metal, available in July)

Cryx
- Battlebox - Denegrah1, Defiler, Deathripper x2, Slayer
- Helljack Kit 1 - Parts for a Corruptor, Reaper, or Slayer
- Helljack Kit 2 - Parts for a Desecrator, Harrower or Leviathon (Available in May)
- Deathripper x2
- Ripjaw x2
- Defiler x2
- Nightwretch x2
- Bane Thralls (Resin and white metal)
- Wraith Engine (Resin and white metal)
- Kraken Colossal (Resin and white metal, available in August)

Retribution of Scyrah
- Shyael Heavy Myrmidon Kit - Parts for a Hydra, Manticore, or Phoenix
- Vyre Heavy Myrmidon Kit - Parts for a Sphinx, Daemon, or Banshee
- Arcantrik Force Generator (Resin and white metal)
- Hyperion Colossal (Resin and white metal, date TBA)

Mercenaries
- Heavy Warjack Kit - Parts for a Nomad, Rover, or Mule
- Galleon Colossal (Resin and white metal, date TBA)

Trollbloods
- Battlebox - Madrak1, Impaler x2, Axer (Available in May)
- Dire Troll Heavy Warbeast Kit - Parts for a Dire Troll Blitzer, Dire Troll Mauler, or Dire Troll Bomber
- Trollkin Fennblades
- War Wagon (Resin and white metal)
- Mountain King Gargantuan (Resin and white metal, date TBA)

Circle Orboros
- Battlebox - Kaya1, Argus x2, Feral Warpwolf
- Warpwolf Heavy Warbeast Kit - Parts for a Feral Warpwolf, Warpwolf Stalker, or Pureblood Warpwolf
- Gallows Grove x2 (Resin and white metal)
- Celestial Fulcrum (Resin and white metal)
- Woldwrath Gargantuan (Resin and white metal, date TBA)

Skorne
- Battlebox - Morghoul1, Cyclopse Raider x2, Titan Gladiator
- Titan Heavy Warbeast Kit - Parts for a Titan Gladiator, Titan Cannoneer, or Titan Sentry
- Bronzeback Titan Rebox
- Siege Amamantarax (Resin and white metal, available May, I think)
- Mammoth Gargantuan (Resin and white metal, date TBA)

Legion
- Battlebox - Lylyth, Shredders x 4, Carnivean (Available in May)
- Heavy Dragonspawn Kit - Parts for a Ravagore, Scythean, or Carnivean
- Ogrun Warspears
- Throne of Everblight (Resin and white metal)
- Nyss Raptors Rebox (Mostly metal with a little bit of resin now I hear)
- Archangel Gargantuan (Resin and white metal, no date given)

PP mostly produces stuff in the States. They have to outsource for plastics. They do resin in-house now adays, though and a lot of hybrid stuff. But it should b enoted they moslty have infastructure for metal is a big part of why they are sticking to what is metal. Also, I might of missed anything, will update as needed. <_<

And stuff.

Blaque wrote:PP mostly produces stuff in the States. They have to outsource for plastics. They do resin in-house now adays, though and a lot of hybrid stuff. But it should b enoted they moslty have infastructure for metal is a big part of why they are sticking to what is metal. Also, I might of missed anything, will update as needed. <_<

PP metals sold in Europe are manufactured in UK, but we get the same plastics than US. That is a problem sometimes, as at least initially the plastics came from China and they took their time to arrive to the old continent. I haven't gotten any resin from PP yet, but I think all of it comes from States.

As a small footnote here, and apologies if I missed it earlier, but most factions have character heavies now that use the Plastic Heavy kits and some white metal Add-on parts. This includes: Triumph, Gallant, Black Ivan, Torch, Blood of Martyrs, Scourge of Heresy, Malice, Erebus, Rocinante, Discordia, Hypnos, Rok, Tiberion, Ghetorix, and the weird squid faced Legion thing.

The Legion warbeast is named Proteus.

And stuff.

If you want to get Proteus get the metal ravagor kit, with the upgrade kit being metal, on a plastic warbeast it just over balances all the time.

I like both metal and plastic, but my Choir came with many of the Menofix staves bent quite badly. I was able to bend most back but the leader's staff is still a bit wonky.

Marz wrote:I like both metal and plastic, but my Choir came with many of the Menofix staves bent quite badly. I was able to bend most back but the leader's staff is still a bit wonky.

My man-o-war demo corps weapons were the same, but a bit of hot water to soften the resin and I got them straight in no time though.