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It’s a helluva price if it’s true. Seems it’s from a reliable source who Valrak says is yet to be wrong.
I mean, it’s still a big old chunk of cash. Of course it is. But I’m going to stick my neck out and say for anyone looking to get into Horus Heresy, it’s pretty damned close to Ojectively Good Value.
Hell. Two of those and a judicious selection of the weapon packs, and you’ve a really solid (if admittedly unvaried) core force to pad out with tastier tidbits.
More so if online discounters can get you 20-25% off.
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I still don't buy the announcement from the Stream that this set (with a hardcover rulebook) is permanent availaible. I guess we will see a smaller set (with a softcover rulebook) later like for Killteam and not three level starter system.
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I've seen others say £180 too, but it may all just be coming ultimately from the same source. I'd be amazed and also pleased if this is true, down from the £240 first rumoured that's a very much better price and I didn't think 240 was terrible.
Sgt_Smudge wrote: "Who would like this? A clown-shoes type of 40k fan" - Also an absurd statement.
Sorry, works both ways.
LOL, sorry if that sounded harsh, I don't actually consider "clown-shoes type" to be an insult but I can see how it could be misinterpreted. It just means person who likes the silly aspects of stuff.
"Tryhard" to me always has a negative connotation, "clown-shoes" is just someone who likes silly stuff.
I think they absolutely both have negative connotations. Calling someone a clown when they express something they like isn't exactly a good thing, any more so than "tryhard" could be read as a positive thing. But I think you understand that you worded it badly, and didn't mean offence - however, that's not how it came across.
It wouldn't have even become a talking point if didn't start attacking people for not liking it.
In all fairness too, it also wouldn't have been a talking point if people had just moved on and not started insinuating that people were "clowns" or somehow less of a fan for enjoying it.
All I hope is that people don't kick this all off again with the next article. We've all shared our opinion on if we do or don't like it - doesn't need more than that.
Yeah, these painting videos are dull as dishwater and do not do the models justice. I get the argument that they're going for attainable paintjobs so as not to put off casuals but I think that's a mistake, there are plenty of simple techniques that give a more dramatic look than this very flat painting
All I hope is that people don't kick this all off again with the next article. We've all shared our opinion on if we do or don't like it - doesn't need more than that.
I, for one, await eagerly! I wonder what form the egregiousness will take? What (un)imaginative ways will they find to cringify the Noble Fists of Dorn? My breath is baited.
There are rumored legion-specific upgrade packs coming for at least some of the legions. Should we expect shoulder pads with legion insignia that can be used instead of the studded pads or is that not how the MK VI armor works? Really not looking forward to gluing, scraping, and gap-filling 40+ pads
BrianDavion wrote: I mean we're getting the unique space wolf and 1k son characters in plastic, and Imperial fists and blood angels got those black library weekend minis. So we're seeing a liiitle bit of plastic characters. I'd not be TOO suprised to see GW foillow that up with more Heresy characters on the BL weekends.
Not like the Wolf or Ahriman are new sculpts, though - they're just finally getting a solo release post-BoP. I'd be very wary of using either them or the BL releases to establish a trend.
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote: You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...
flaherty wrote: There are rumored legion-specific upgrade packs coming for at least some of the legions. Should we expect shoulder pads with legion insignia that can be used instead of the studded pads or is that not how the MK VI armor works? Really not looking forward to gluing, scraping, and gap-filling 40+ pads
There's the FW pads, but they're fecking expensive, add ~$100USD (or $120 AUD) to kit out the full 40 models from the boxed set with FW resin.
I have thought about casting my own but I can't really be arsed and it'd probably end up a similar amount of work to just dealing with the seamlines. But yeah, I do find the seamlines to put a serious damper on my desire to buy the kit.
flaherty wrote: There are rumored legion-specific upgrade packs coming for at least some of the legions. Should we expect shoulder pads with legion insignia that can be used instead of the studded pads or is that not how the MK VI armor works? Really not looking forward to gluing, scraping, and gap-filling 40+ pads
When it's true, they will be shoulder pads for the right shoulder while the left one remains the studded.
flaherty wrote: There are rumored legion-specific upgrade packs coming for at least some of the legions. Should we expect shoulder pads with legion insignia that can be used instead of the studded pads or is that not how the MK VI armor works? Really not looking forward to gluing, scraping, and gap-filling 40+ pads
There's the FW pads, but they're fecking expensive, add ~$100USD (or $120 AUD) to kit out the full 40 models from the boxed set with FW resin.
I have thought about casting my own but I can't really be arsed and it'd probably end up a similar amount of work to just dealing with the seamlines. But yeah, I do find the seamlines to put a serious damper on my desire to buy the kit.
I'll go the easy way and just design and print me some.
flaherty wrote: There are rumored legion-specific upgrade packs coming for at least some of the legions. Should we expect shoulder pads with legion insignia that can be used instead of the studded pads or is that not how the MK VI armor works? Really not looking forward to gluing, scraping, and gap-filling 40+ pads
When it's true, they will be shoulder pads for the right shoulder while the left one remains the studded.
Don't insignia normally go on the left shoulder pad? So an insignia would replace the studded one? Or am I missing something?
flaherty wrote: There are rumored legion-specific upgrade packs coming for at least some of the legions. Should we expect shoulder pads with legion insignia that can be used instead of the studded pads or is that not how the MK VI armor works? Really not looking forward to gluing, scraping, and gap-filling 40+ pads
When it's true, they will be shoulder pads for the right shoulder while the left one remains the studded.
Don't insignia normally go on the left shoulder pad? So an insignia would replace the studded one? Or am I missing something?
flaherty wrote: There are rumored legion-specific upgrade packs coming for at least some of the legions. Should we expect shoulder pads with legion insignia that can be used instead of the studded pads or is that not how the MK VI armor works? Really not looking forward to gluing, scraping, and gap-filling 40+ pads
Not how the heraldry works. Chapter symbol goes on the right shoulder, studded is for the left. (Supposedly reinforced against incoming fire with the way marines are trained to aim and fire boltguns)
It was never clear why they changed the chapter symbol to the left when they retired the RTB kit, there had been quite a few 'Codex Astartes' articles about paint schemes and lots of artwork, and suddenly, randomly they were wrong.
flaherty wrote: There are rumored legion-specific upgrade packs coming for at least some of the legions. Should we expect shoulder pads with legion insignia that can be used instead of the studded pads or is that not how the MK VI armor works? Really not looking forward to gluing, scraping, and gap-filling 40+ pads
There's the FW pads, but they're fecking expensive, add ~$100USD (or $120 AUD) to kit out the full 40 models from the boxed set with FW resin.
I have thought about casting my own but I can't really be arsed and it'd probably end up a similar amount of work to just dealing with the seamlines. But yeah, I do find the seamlines to put a serious damper on my desire to buy the kit.
I'll go the easy way and just design and print me some.
I have a 3D printer, but I dunno if it's good enough to print a shoulder pad without visible layer lines somewhere.
flaherty wrote: There are rumored legion-specific upgrade packs coming for at least some of the legions. Should we expect shoulder pads with legion insignia that can be used instead of the studded pads or is that not how the MK VI armor works? Really not looking forward to gluing, scraping, and gap-filling 40+ pads
When it's true, they will be shoulder pads for the right shoulder while the left one remains the studded.
Don't insignia normally go on the left shoulder pad? So an insignia would replace the studded one? Or am I missing something?
Yeah. You're missing the studs ^^
Is that a studded armour thing only? Because the pics I found on FW of sculpted insignia typically show the insignia on the left.
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flaherty wrote: There are rumored legion-specific upgrade packs coming for at least some of the legions. Should we expect shoulder pads with legion insignia that can be used instead of the studded pads or is that not how the MK VI armor works? Really not looking forward to gluing, scraping, and gap-filling 40+ pads
Not how the heraldry works. Chapter symbol goes on the right shoulder, studded is for the left. (Supposedly reinforced against incoming fire with the way marines are trained to aim and fire boltguns)
It was never clear why they changed the chapter symbol to the left when they retired the RTB kit, there had been quite a few 'Codex Astartes' articles about paint schemes and lots of artwork, and suddenly, randomly they were wrong.
To this day I still put chapter markings on the “wrong” shoulder due to the core of RTB01s in my army. Makes it a bit of a hassle when minis come with pre-sculpted insignia.
Do we know if the blank shoulderpad of the new Mk. VI is removable and suitable for chapter upgrades?
AllSeeingSkink wrote: I have a 3D printer, but I dunno if it's good enough to print a shoulder pad without visible layer lines somewhere.
It's just a matter of dialing your settings correctly, IME. That said, if you print in resin, it will be difficult for the layer lines to be more visible than the seams.
Is that a studded armour thing only? Because the pics I found on FW of sculpted insignia typically show the insignia on the left.
Yeah it's only to accomodate the studs.
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No? The 'advanced reactions' are all a single once-per-battle bit of legion fluff, and a second reaction seems to be part of the Warlord trait (that goes away when the warlord dies).
I always thought that as armour tech improved (or perhaps they found more archeotech/STCs) that the molecular bonding studs became redundant
so newer armour marks (or mixed suits) provide as much or more protection without them, so there's plenty of space for insignia etc (and we know how much 40K armies love insignia)
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: I always thought that as armour tech improved (or perhaps they found more archeotech/STCs) that the molecular bonding studs became redundant
so newer armour marks (or mixed suits) provide as much or more protection without them, so there's plenty of space for insignia etc (and we know how much 40K armies love insignia)
Not really, bonding studs were used due to reinforce/repair stuff because of lack of supplies of better parts, not due to tech level.
It's basically due to the HH putting a big strain in every side's logistics, more than anything else. After the HH, Corvus armor kept them on the shoulder pad to honor the Eternity Gate defense.
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