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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
I wonder if this could lead into an Ushoran reveal? Does anyone else remember that pic of a hidden zombie dragon looking model behind some scenery in a lumineth army shot?


I'd love to see GW release a new zombiedragon with modern sculpting. Even if it and the Terrorgast end up being separate models.

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...who the heck is Ushoran?

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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...

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 Dysartes wrote:
...who the heck is Ushoran?


The progenitor of Strigoi in WFB.
   
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He was resurrected alongside Arkhan, Neferata, and Mannfred by Nagash when the Bone Daddy made himself at home in Shyish. Ushoran proved too difficult to control and Nagash imprisoned him but later escaped when Archaon defeated Nagash during the Age of Chaos.
   
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Found the pic. I don't think the hidden thing on the top right has ever been revealed?
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 Dysartes wrote:
...who the heck is Ushoran?


King Conan as a Vampire Lord in WHFB, he ruled a vampire kingdom and became a Vampire Lord and liege to the Strigoi vampires, as well as the owner of both claw and crown of Nagash for a while; people united against him and distracted him long enough that a powerful Waaagh! could sneak up on his capital, which lead to his death in a magical duel against an Ork Shaman. So much for the Old World.

In AoS, there's a incarnation or reincarnation of Ushoran running around that is worshipped by people under the guise of the Summer King; he fought Nagash and was imprisoned by him (as well as transformed into a ghoul-like beast), but was freed in the Age of Chaos and now roams the realms with his offspring of the Flesheater Courts.
   
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TBF the reason FEC is getting a story in this run is that there's a model getting released as part of the Dawnbringer end-of-edition books.
   
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I knew I should have seen it coming, call it masochism or whatever, but I took a look at the Seraphon MTO prices and

Man.

Selling a resin version of the old Kroq-gar sculpt for the same price as the full multi-part plastic kit that replaced him is actually kinda funny in its way
   
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It certainly reinforces that you're paying for the brand, not the material or particular sculpt.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Found the pic. I don't think the hidden thing on the top right has ever been revealed?


Out of curiosity, when did the picture first get published?

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Around the time lumineth book was coming up iirc.

Remember the speculation on what it was. Some people tried to photograph stormcast dragon rider on it but it wasn't quite convincing result.

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Utterly ages ago now. Heck its been quite a while since Lumineth were centre focus for getting a new release wave.

It's not hard to imagine GW working on updated or new sculpts for Flesheaters. Honestly considering how many models they share with Soulblight, I was surprised when GW updated Vampries we didn't see the Zombie Dragon/terrorgast get an updated model.

Heck you can argue that FE are the worst faction for an army in AoS entirely. Even the Fyrslayers have technically had more releases, even if they are all still characters and no core infantry/monsters/troops/cavalry.

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They definitely sit in the weird spot of an offshoot of a WHFB army that sells well but can't seem to really boost its army size beyond hero models.
16 Warscrolls (including a Warcry unit and Underworlds Warband) coming from 7 kits is a bit rough.
   
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Yeah AoS is sadly still a mess for some factions. Sometimes I wonder if its GW not having infinite resources; but other part of me worries a little that whilst AoS has some fantastic creative energy behind it, I do worry that some forces might not be "liked" by the design team and just end up languishing without models. Then again GW is really keen on one-drop heroes right now and don't really do infantry/troops/monsters or anything else unless its a battletome update. So its an all or nothing- either your book gets you a slew of new shinies or nothing.


We are starting to see Warcry add units for forces outside of Slaves to Darkness which is good (though its also bonkers that GW has almost 10 squads for Slaves to Darkness - each of which looks awesome, and yet they still keep the super old clunky Marauder models in the army )

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I think it might be more a case of them liking what they have but can't really think of what to add.
I'm very interested to see what's going to happen next edition army-wise.
   
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I actually think FEC would originally have been an earlier release, but they pushed them back for time to do a bigger update. This as a response to just how dam popular they got, and how quickly.

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Problem is 1 main kit(crypt horror/flayer) isn't going anywhere. If big update coming one would assume 1 of 2 main unit kit would be.

Unless by update you mean lots of new units over updating old ones.

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FEC are meant to be deluded into thinking they're a noble knightly court, right?

Idea - A "falconer" unit, using carrion birds instead of falcons, possibly as a ranged attack?

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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...

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You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
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There's lots of ideas they could apply. A falconer, flying cavalry using a fell bat type, regular cavalry using some sort of emaciated donkey, broken lances and such, a reliquary using ghouls pulling somesort of more extravagant corpse cart and so on.
   
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 Dysartes wrote:
FEC are meant to be deluded into thinking they're a noble knightly court, right?

Idea - A "falconer" unit, using carrion birds instead of falcons, possibly as a ranged attack?



The Flesheater Courts basically see themselves as Bretonnians.

They are not huge hulking half beast vampires, they are knights upon a noble steed
They are not riding on a half rotted giant bat, they are riding upon a winged pegasus
They are not a slobbering cannibalistic monster with bits of bone stuck through their flesh; they are a common, but loyal and upstanding swordsman carrying a blessed relic of religious importance (the kind sold on every street corner).


However whilst the lore behind them is honestly really rather fun, a lot of their models don't really reflect it. I think we are starting to see a few wearing clothes and appearing a little closer to what their madness portrays on the tabletop and as a model; but its still true that swarms of them will charge slobbering on all fours and hunched ovre on the battlefield; yet convinced in their own mind that they are an organised group of infantrymen fighting for a just cause.

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Forget the donkeys; use devolved vampires. Some dumb fledge drank a bunch of ghouls and contracted the madness but ran out of locals so started losing what little mind was left. Now they think they’re noble steeds for their ghoul masters who are instinctively careful not to let them feed too much, in case they wake up. As a side benefit this also leaves them constantly ravenous in battle and extra-vicious/frenzied.

So ghouls on the back of a varghulf (styled on all fours like the metal classic).

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For anyone wondering the various Skinks are £19 each, Kroak and Saurus Old Blood on Carnosaur are each £37.50 while the Slann is 42.50.

Think I'll pass. I've got more than enough other stuff to paint, these would have been nice to have if they were reasonably priced, but not essential purchases.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Article didn't mention it (getting lost in all the Leviathan whatever) but the video mentioned an MTO for some classic Seraphon stuff.

   
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Yeah, I was maybe going to grab the Slann for funsies but at the price of a Land Raider, I'll pass.
   
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How is the basic Slann more expensive than Lord Kroak?
   
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Probably because they priced it per model and its technically "5" models - four carriers and one lord.

Got to agree though, the prices on those are really horrific. I know metal has gone up, but those prices are almost like they just told an intern "base the price off the plastic kits" and just left them to put in a price and list them .

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 Dysartes wrote:
FEC are meant to be deluded into thinking they're a noble knightly court, right?

Idea - A "falconer" unit, using carrion birds instead of falcons, possibly as a ranged attack?


Isn;t that already in Underworlds?

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No idea, Mr Morden - was an "off the top of my head" idea.

Kinda scary that we seem to be able to brainstorm fitting ideas quicker than GW, though.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...

tneva82 wrote:
You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... 
   
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Gathering the Informations.

Grymwatch included two "fell bats" on the same base...not really tied to any of the models though?

The FEC feel like they're holding off to make them a starter box force.
   
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The Underworlds warband was designed with each member being part of a duke's entourage. You have the duke himself (Crakmarrow), champion (Gristlewel), falconer (Talon and his harrier bats), herald (Night's Herald), cook (Butcher), and hunter (Valreek).

Looking at that and the Warcry models (plus the Abhorrant Archregent) shows that they have an idea for the Flesh Eater Courts models and can execute them, it's just they're tied down using a basic infantry model designed for use in rank and file in WfB and very outdated.
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
Grymwatch included two "fell bats" on the same base...not really tied to any of the models though?

The FEC feel like they're holding off to make them a starter box force.

Maybe but I'd be surprised to see Death as the non-Order faction this time round. Chances are it'll be Chaos.
   
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Gathering the Informations.

I guess there's always the chance of Beasts of Chaos, but outside of Beasts there isn't really much left to do for Chaos!


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The Underworlds warband was designed with each member being part of a duke's entourage. You have the duke himself (Crakmarrow), champion (Gristlewel), falconer (Talon and his harrier bats), herald (Night's Herald), cook (Butcher), and hunter (Valreek).

Thanks for that! It's been a long while since I read the Grymwatch stuff. I forgot that the one actually was tied to the bats, seeing as they made the bats a separate entity.

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