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Hi guys, I saw the model for Vargard Obyron and wanted it, with not having a necron army he has started my army, I grabbed Obyron and i'm half way through painting him and got 2 battle forces. i've planned out a 1.5k army and this is what i've planned

Nemesor Zandrekh
Lord with ressurection Orb (Royal Court)
19 Warriors

Vargard Obyron
Lord with ressurection Orb (Royal Court)
19 Warriors

10 Immortals with Gauss Blasters

2 Doomsday Arks

I've never played as Necrons and i've never played against Necrons, except once who ended up with 40-odd scarab bases on the board :O which I've decided against

Well, 2 large bricks of foot bodies. The unit can be nasty when it unloads on something, but it still dies in melee due to the current mechanics of melee resolution. The best defence for this is to pass the morale rolls after combat resolution. I would track down 2 crypteks and give them chronomotrons to help minipulate morale and Ld. rolls. If you have limited access to models, this is a very small fix to help with the 2 large bricks of troops. Also, Immotekh if you just want a handfull of units. His lightning will help clear out some of the parking lot type armies out there.

As you get more models, I would look to shrink those units and pick up some more models of some of the differant Necron models. Wraiths are a nice selection if dont want scarabs. The Necrons have a lot of synergy in units working together. Zahndrak can buff units, help with reserves. Wraiths can deepstrike on enemy turn, same with Deathmarks. Deathmarks and Triarch Stalkers work together well. Try some of these units together with some proxies to find what you like and get some more models if you want to grow beyond the battleforce army.

Sticking Obyron with Warriors is kind of a waste of his talents.
If you're dead set on using him (and seeing as how you bought the model, I'm guessing you are), I'd suggest some Lychguard. Add Zahndrekh and you have one hell of a combat squad.

Doomsday Arks.
... with large bricks of Warriors, it might be a better idea to have them as Ghost Arks (15+ Warriors lead by an OrdLord with a Ghost Ark in support is a BITCH of a unit to kill).

My suggestion would be, take the one unit of Warriors and split them up. Put 5 in one Ghost Ark and 5 in the other. Then have both Arks flank the one massive unit lead by an OrbLord in the center.

In front of this, stick a unit of Lychguard with Swords and Sheilds, lead by Zahndrek and Obyron. These guys will act as assault deterrent.

That should cost you about 1190 points thus far.
What you do with that is up to you, but I would HIGHLY recommend an Overlord on a Command barge with a Warscythe. Not only is he excellent at killing tanks, but will he open up a second Royal Court. After that you can add a couple of Harbingers of Destruction with Solar Pulses. This will protect your army from long rage shooting. Put one of these guys in each of your Ghost Arks.
If you drop a couple of Warriors from the big brick, you'll be able to add either a Harbinger of Destruction with Gaze of Flame or a Harbinger of the Storm with Lightning Field to either your big brick of Warriors or you Lychguard unit. This will help against whichever you pick getting assaulted (whichever you value more).

With everything I've lined out, that's a 1489/99 point army that should be able to hold its own.

The best thing is, you can make all of this by just adding two boxes: 1x Command Barge box and x Lychguard box.
See, you can make custom Crypteks using the Praetorian Rod of Covenant and the Deathmarks from the Battleforce box! (it'll save you a fortune, compared to buying GQ's overpriced boring versions)

Agree with Skoffs, but you will also need a box of warriors to give you some legs (I assume you used the deathmark legs to make the immortals).

You can use the deathmark heads and backs you have left over to make 5 deathmarks (you just need to trim off the warrior chest bit a little - there are heaps of conversion guides and it is pretty easy), plus 5 crypteks (using the praetorian backs and rods from the lychguard box).

Best bit is you then get some more scarabs!

As a new Necron player myself I'm continually surprised by how useful the scarabs are for killing vehicles, taking fire and just tying up enemy units. I'll probably still use them even when I get some wraiths.

I was looking for ideas for a necron list and spent alot of time looking up tactics and ultimately came up with a list after reading through them. Check out tactics like scarab farm, wraithwing, tremorteks etc because its well worth addin atleast a small element of these to add s
um serious threat.

I used to go for the idea of big 20 strong warrior units but think about what would happen if one assault squad got stuck into them your game will be over very quick.

zahndrek has a orb so you could save sum points there by taking out the res orb.

2 doomsday arks can drop sum serious hurt but if they miss then theres not much to fall back on.

Changing Skoffs advice into a list I come up with

Zandrekh
Obyron
Lychguard

Overlord with Ress orb
16 warriors

5 Warriors
Harbinger of destruction cryptek
Ghost Arc

5 Warriors
Harbinger of destruction cryptek
Ghost Arc

Overlord with War Scythe and Command Barge

Taking me to 1495

Skoffs has some really good input on this.. i have been playing necrons since 3rd edition.. was really excited when the new codex was release how ever.. i found that my army that i had was no longer what it use to be ..lol.. so i have been trying to find ways to take what i have and i've add some new stuff but with out buying alot .. adding it all together and come up with good sound tournament rosters at 1500 pts or less. i have recently been studing the Phalanx and how to build it with the new roster using my 3rd edition crons plus some of the new edit models as well.. looking at what you have.. i'll post a smoll roster of what i would do with what you got.. you didn't say if you can aford to buy more models or not.. so looking at the thread i'll take it that you bought a CCB and Lychguard... do you have the basic lords or plan on buying them? .. here is what i would build base on your current models.


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going off the list you made.. if it was mine this is how i would line up what you are wanting to use.

( keep in mind, running both of these guys at 1500 pts is alot of points tied up in HQ and body guard but would be really fun to play)
Zahndrekh
Obyron
Lychguards - swords and boards, ( this unit can VOD with Obyron and Zahndrekh and become very very deadly to your enemy )

( this is the core foundation to the phalanx and why i keep them at unit size of 7, because loosing 2 warriors to sweeping advance is alot easer on the points then watching 12 warriors go by by)
Warriors X7 inside Ghost ark with Harbinger of STorm
Warriors X7 inside Ghost ark with Harbinger of Destro
Warriors X7 ( try and keep within 6 " of ghost ark for unit rebuilds )
Warriors X7 ( try and keep within 6" of ghost ark for unit rebuilds )

Overlord on CCB with MSS and Phase shifter and Warscythe ( tank hunter )

total points 1494

also in my phalanx ive been using destroyers, monolith, and Ctan shards.. been battling Decent of angel , blood angel's and holding up pretty well since Assault is the Necron warriors weakness. but thats my two cents.

Whoa, hang on there.

kiwikie wrote:Changing Skoffs advice into a list I come up with
Zandrekh
Obyron
Lychguard

Overlord with Ress orb
16 warriors

5 Warriors
Harbinger of destruction cryptek
Ghost Arc

5 Warriors
Harbinger of destruction cryptek
Ghost Arc

Overlord with War Scythe and Command Barge

Taking me to 1495

According to what you listed, you've got 3 Overlord level HQ in your army.
Unless you meant you the one leading the 15 Warriors was supposed to be an ORB-Lord? (cause that would make sense... but then, your points would be off).

Let me try doing some math...
__________
HQ [715]
Overlord (Warscythe, Command Barge) = 180
Zahndrekh = 185
Obyron = 160
Lord (ResOrb, Mindshackle Scarabs) = 80
Harbinger of Destruction (Solar Pulse) = 55
Harbinger of Destruction (Solar Pulse) = 55

TROOP [555]
15 Warriors = 195
5 Warriors (Ghost Ark) = 180
5 Warriors (Ghost Ark) = 180

ELITE [225]
5 Lychguard (Sword & Shield) = 225

TOTAL [1495]
__________

Okay, that's not so bad.
It's just your basic run-of-the-mill Warrior Phalanx, flanked by two Lance-tek gunboats for increased Warrior replacement support, and headed off by a counter assault squad of Lychguard, with a Barge Overlord zipping around killing tanks.
It might not win you any tournaments, but it's certainly viable.

My bad thanks for correcting me

If you follow the 5 barge principle you can't go wrong!

I've played with the above list a few times now and although it's been fun it's not quite what I've been after. I've read the fluff in the codex and also looked at each unit and come up with the following list. I do have a few questions however.

Imotekh the stormlord
Necron Lord with mindshackle scarabs and ressurection orb (in the 10man unit of warriors)
Cryptek of destruction with Eldritch lance (in a ghost ark)
Cryptek of destruction with Eldritch lance (in the other ghost ark)
Cryptek of despair with Abyssal staff (with the deathmarks)
Destroyer lord with mindshackle scarabs and ressurection orb
10 warriors
5 warriors with ghost ark
5 warriors with ghost ark
10 flayed ones (deep striking with the destroyer lord) can I do this?
5 Deathmarks
Monolith

The idea behind this list is to lock up each turn with night fighting while my army slugs forward, hopefully giving me 2/3 turns of nightfighting, but we know this, bloodswarm scarabs from Imotek allow my destroyer lord and the flayed ones to deep strike right next to an enemy and then assault them in the next turn, i'm not so much bothered about getting shot because of reanimation protocols, If i place them carefully i'll place them out of LoS with the bigger units and keep them on target for either getting shot+assaulted when i want or have terrain between the 2 units hopefully giving me an advantage.
Deathmarks and the cryptek of despair deepstrike close to the opponents army wounding on 2s with 5 shots and the template(how i read it, it lets the despair cryptek to wound without consulting the targets leadership)
I've never used a Monolith but i had 200 points spare and couldn't decide on what to use, but i thought that with it's gate I could move my units around easily if they were close to dying etc.

comments appreciated