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So I have a tournament this sunday, just local ofc.

I'm kind of struggling to make a competitive list that can counter all with what I have, so was wondering if you could help?

So far, I have:

Eldrad
10 avengers with exarch with twin SC and storm in EML serpent
2x 10 scatter guardians
5 dragons in a EML serpent
5 wraithguard with lock in EML serpent
2 walkers with twin scatters
4 reapers with tempest launcher and fast shot exarch
6 spiders with exarch with twin spinners.


Other things I have left over are - up to 10 warlocks/wraithguard/storm guardians that have been converted from guardians (only one), couple more spiders, 5 rangers, a farseer, maugan ra, an autarch with teleport, maniblasters, power weapon and fusion gun and I could ressurect a destroyed walker


So any advice you guys can offer would be great


Von Chogg

i would scrap the wraith guard and their serpent so you can upgrad and get more troops in the rest (2 less kill points) and what ever is left give it to the guardians

jbsnv wrote:i would scrap the wraith guard and their serpent so you can upgrad and get more troops in the rest (2 less kill points) and what ever is left give it to the guardians

What would you suggest upgrading? I could obv add locks to guardians, but without the guard i am lacking even more in the AT department, and anti-terminator

Von CHogg

Make sure the lock with the Wraithguard has conceal and a singing spear, as these guys will probably be covering some anti tank duty.

The autarch would be a great fit with the spiders, and it would help the reserve rolls for their deep strike as well as the walkers outflanking, so I would add that in.

If you can bring back in a third war walker with twin scatters, add that next.

Add in your remaining spiders to roll with the autarch. Give the exarch powerblades and withdraw to make them capable in CC.

Drop fast shot for crack shot on the tempest launcher. Ignoring cover and re rolling wounds will ensure you take out anything but terminators.

With the leftover points some embolden locks would be good for your guardians. Or if you have enough rangers/pathfinders.

Von Chogg wrote:

jbsnv wrote:i would scrap the wraith guard and their serpent so you can upgrad and get more troops in the rest (2 less kill points) and what ever is left give it to the guardians

What would you suggest upgrading? I could obv add locks to guardians, but without the guard i am lacking even more in the AT department, and anti-terminator

Von CHogg

fire dragons lots of them then reapers then guardians get more fire dragons

Dr. Serling wrote:Make sure the lock with the Wraithguard has conceal and a singing spear, as these guys will probably be covering some anti tank duty.

The autarch would be a great fit with the spiders, and it would help the reserve rolls for their deep strike as well as the walkers outflanking, so I would add that in.

If you can bring back in a third war walker with twin scatters, add that next.

Add in your remaining spiders to roll with the autarch. Give the exarch powerblades and withdraw to make them capable in CC.

Drop fast shot for crack shot on the tempest launcher. Ignoring cover and re rolling wounds will ensure you take out anything but terminators.

With the leftover points some embolden locks would be good for your guardians. Or if you have enough rangers/pathfinders.

Good suggestions, but I have no points left...

What would you suggest removing for the autarch and spider upgrades?


Von Chogg

By my count you are not saturated to 1750, only 1671.
Drop a dark reaper, change fast shot to crack shot.
That puts you at 1751. Downgrade a scatter laser to a shuriken cannon, or the EML to something to make the points. If you have spare, take a warlock power, singing spear or guardian to get close.

You could also drop eldrad for a guide+doom lock with runes of warding, stones and maybe a spear.

Ok, this is what I've got so far then, taking all things into consideration:

Farseer w/ doom, guide, both runes, stones
Aurarch w/ fusion gun, jump pack, mandiblasters, power weapon
10 avengers w/ exarch w/ storm and twin catas
2x 10 guardians w/ scatter lasers
5 dragons
5 wratihguard w/ lock w/ conceal and spear
3x EML serpents w/ shuricannon
3x reapers w/ exarch w/ tempest and crack shot
either 2x walkers w/ Scatters, or 3x walkers w/ cannons
6 spiders w/ exarch w/ withdraw, twin spinners

it comes to 1751 pts

What you all think?


Von Chogg