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2018/02/20 01:40:03
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Lethal Lhamean
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Grimgold wrote:I thought drukari were next, it would be odd if someone got a codex more than a month before it's street date.
The Splintermind podcast team have said themselves, and confirmed by GW I beleive, that they've been playtesting the new Drukhari codex. No real beans being spilled but at leas tone of them has said he's very happy with it.
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2018/02/20 02:08:15
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Grimgold wrote:That seems Suspicious, why would he need his book to leak, when he had the playtest data. Also early usually isn't a month early, there is no way they could keep the contents a secret that long, just him showing it off to F&F would eventually spring some major leaks. It would be at most two weeks early, during the hype making phase where leaks won't take the piss out of the warhammer community announcements. I think you guys are getting your chains jerked.
As mentioned, it seems like the books get sent out in advance and there's pretty strict NDAs likely in place(least but not limited to "You don't get books again").
You'd be surprised how little friends & family likely care over stuff like this.
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2018/02/20 02:14:03
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Regular Dakkanaut
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So playtesters already got copies to, well test. No doubt the codices will already get changes in the march FAQ then.
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2018/02/20 02:15:54
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Doctoralex wrote:So playtesters already got copies to, well test. No doubt the codices will already get changes in the march FAQ then.
I mean, they have to have someone who feeds them stuff for the initial FAQ at launch eh?
In all likelihood, it's the "last stage" of playtesting at that point.
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2018/02/20 02:18:22
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Kanluwen wrote:Doctoralex wrote:So playtesters already got copies to, well test. No doubt the codices will already get changes in the march FAQ then.
I mean, they have to have someone who feeds them stuff for the initial FAQ at launch eh?
In all likelihood, it's the "last stage" of playtesting at that point.
Yea you are probably right. Well, at least its better than no playtesting at all.
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2018/02/20 07:01:00
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Grimgold wrote:That seems Suspicious, why would he need his book to leak, when he had the playtest data. Also early usually isn't a month early, there is no way they could keep the contents a secret that long, just him showing it off to F&F would eventually spring some major leaks. It would be at most two weeks early, during the hype making phase where leaks won't take the piss out of the warhammer community announcements. I think you guys are getting your chains jerked.
Well march is pretty soon so 2 weeks would be for early march release. And as for why book rather than playtest data...Well that playtest info he had is like 6month+ old and has bound to be changed. Just 'cause you playtested doesn't mean you know what GW ended up finally with.
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2018/02/20 09:04:28
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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Hopefully Tau gets their codex next so we can get Fires of Cyraxus already..
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Alpharius? Never heard of him. |
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2018/02/20 10:07:20
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Kanluwen wrote:
The claim, from what I can tell, is that playtesters receive their complimentary copies early.
They use PLAYTESTERS???!
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2018/02/20 12:15:27
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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[DCM]
Sentient OverBear
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Yes, they started at least with playtesting 8th ed long before it came out. The Frontline Gaming guys are one group, and there are others across the world.
I'm pretty happy about it.
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2018/02/20 12:15:29
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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Yeah. That's been common knowledge for a while. Ever since 8th edition hit.
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Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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2018/02/20 12:19:08
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Lorek wrote:
Yes, they started at least with playtesting 8th ed long before it came out. The Frontline Gaming guys are one group, and there are others across the world.
I'm pretty happy about it.
Too bad GW still seems to have trouble with listening to them. That or playtesters are doing poor job seeing the junk 8th ed is
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2018/02/20 12:41:32
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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tneva82 wrote: Lorek wrote: Yes, they started at least with playtesting 8th ed long before it came out. The Frontline Gaming guys are one group, and there are others across the world. I'm pretty happy about it. Too bad GW still seems to have trouble with listening to them. That or playtesters are doing poor job seeing the junk 8th ed is From what I've heard from someone who knows someone who tested 8th (based on very limited stuff since GW didn't renege the NDA after it launched to my knowledge, so they cannot talk about the testing process), the playtesting was not what we think. It was basically "Use these two 1500 point lists and see if things feel right" not "Build a list and tell us what you think is too weak/strong". So while GW might playtest, it doesn't seem they are playtesting correctly, they are basically having outside playtesters test the way they would internally, and still gross under/over estimate everything as a result.
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2018/02/20 12:50:39
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Wayniac wrote:From what I've heard from someone who knows someone who tested 8th (based on very limited stuff since GW didn't renege the NDA after it launched to my knowledge, so they cannot talk about the testing process), the playtesting was not what we think. It was basically "Use these two 1500 point lists and see if things feel right" not "Build a list and tell us what you think is too weak/strong". So while GW might playtest, it doesn't seem they are playtesting correctly, they are basically having outside playtesters test the way they would internally, and still gross under/over estimate everything as a result.
Sounds about right if my memory serves right and ITC guy here in dakka dakka noted their role was lesser than forum talk here put it as.
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2018/02/20 13:44:32
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Wayniac wrote:
From what I've heard from someone who knows someone who tested 8th
Well, that sounds rock solid.
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2018/02/20 14:58:17
Subject: Re:40k codex release schedule rumor
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Irked Necron Immortal
Colorado
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bananathug wrote:I swear if there are more 2 damage weapons released without SM termie/primaris points dropping in half I don't know what I'm going to do...
And if a damned assault cannon heavy 12 -1 1dmg got a price bump up to 44 vs a heavy 18 -1 2dmg for 35 points...it better be on a damned 6+ bs model.
Anyone want to army swap? Got over 10k of marines I've painstakingly painted, modified over the last 20 years which GW seems hellbent on me never playing a competitive game with
Space Marines are bound to be getting more PrimeArchs and the fact that you guys complain when you can mix in so many different codexes to shore up any discrepancies your list may have makes Xenos players like myself sick when I hear this kind of [MOD EDIT - Please do use workarounds for the expletive filter - Alpharius]
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2018/02/20 16:31:50
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
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angelofvengeance wrote: H.B.M.C. wrote:They're not going to remove market lights as long as the miniatures exist for them.
Grot 6 wrote:Yes. it is a given that as a new book comes out, they drop a few new units or characters with it.
As has been said numerous times, that's not the way this Codex release cycle is going.
Most books get a token miniature, usually something previously available in a boxed game or special bundle, and that's it. Tau, Dark Eldar and Necrons are not full releases. The Necrons are getting a plastic Cryptek, not a suite of new units. We don't even know if the DE will get any new miniatures.
Yeah, I doubt Dark Eldar will get a model. They've got their 3 main HQ choices covered. Though, a plastic Drazhar/Lilith Hesperax/Urien Rakarth would be kinda nice. But I'm just wishlisting.
You know what I'd like? The ability to legally field my Haemonculus plastic model and have his rules work.
Haemonculus can currently take two weapons. His model is holding three. Just another beautiful iteration of GW's "Maybe models, maybe rules???" policy.
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"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!" |
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2018/02/20 16:40:54
Subject: Re:40k codex release schedule rumor
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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v0iddrgn wrote:bananathug wrote:I swear if there are more 2 damage weapons released without SM termie/primaris points dropping in half I don't know what I'm going to do...
And if a damned assault cannon heavy 12 -1 1dmg got a price bump up to 44 vs a heavy 18 -1 2dmg for 35 points...it better be on a damned 6+ bs model.
Anyone want to army swap? Got over 10k of marines I've painstakingly painted, modified over the last 20 years which GW seems hellbent on me never playing a competitive game with
Space Marines are bound to be getting more PrimeArchs and the fact that you guys complain when you can mix in so many different codexes to shore up any discrepancies your list may have makes Xenos players like myself sick when I hear this kind of [MOD EDIT - Please do use workarounds for the expletive filter - Alpharius]
Not everyone wants to have to use either Primarchs, IG allies or even Primaris to have a non joke army.
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2018/02/20 18:43:00
Subject: Re:40k codex release schedule rumor
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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RandyMcStab wrote:
Not everyone wants to have to use either Primarchs, IG allies or even Primaris to have a non joke army.
this, very much this.
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2018/02/20 21:43:27
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Dakka Veteran
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That's like me saying "All the whining from xenos guys about their broken troops when all they have to do is go out and buy a space marine army..."
Unbalanced units/weapons/strats/tactics should bother everyone. The game is best played by two reasonably capable armies. having one army with weapons twice as good per point as the other leads to a game that isn't fun for either player, IMHO.
Sorry to bring my marine salt to the celebratory Tau thread but if people can't see how something this unbalanced could cause issues I'm not sure it's worth continuing this conversation.
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2018/02/20 22:22:15
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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If the big heavy gun is only available on a particular tank, why does it matter if it is cheaper than an assault cannon?
If the vehicle is overpriced to make the weapons cheaper, then it is a wash.
Please, until you have the point values for both try to not do direct comparisons. You'll just make yourself angry for no reason.
(Feel free to lose your gak if that turns out to not be the case)
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2018/02/21 16:50:24
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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You mean like how certain people complained about Hurricane Bolters being only a 4 point weapon when maybe 3 units can take it as an option?
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever. |
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2018/02/21 16:57:42
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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the_scotsman wrote:
You know what I'd like? The ability to legally field my Haemonculus plastic model and have his rules work.
Haemonculus can currently take two weapons. His model is holding three. Just another beautiful iteration of GW's "Maybe models, maybe rules???" policy.
Wasn't one of the things that Haemonculi carried a "tool" or wargear piece? Automatically Appended Next Post: Slayer-Fan123 wrote:You mean like how certain people complained about Hurricane Bolters being only a 4 point weapon when maybe 3 units can take it as an option?
Some people don't understand that low-priced hulls seem to pay for weapons while high priced hulls don't.
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2018/02/21 17:08:55
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Mighty Vampire Count
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bananathug wrote:That's like me saying "All the whining from xenos guys about their broken troops when all they have to do is go out and buy a space marine army..."
Yes and no - You can play mixed Imperium in matched play you simply can't play mixed Xenos - couple this with the massive pile of Marine Codex's we have had and are likely to continue having.
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"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
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2018/02/21 17:16:32
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Lythrandire Biehrellian wrote:If the big heavy gun is only available on a particular tank, why does it matter if it is cheaper than an assault cannon?
If the vehicle is overpriced to make the weapons cheaper, then it is a wash.
Please, until you have the point values for both try to not do direct comparisons. You'll just make yourself angry for no reason.
(Feel free to lose your gak if that turns out to not be the case)
Platform overpriced to compensate weapon being underpriced is btw lol-bad game design. Similar to special characters deserving point break cause you can only have one
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2018/02/21 17:19:08
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
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Kanluwen wrote:the_scotsman wrote:
You know what I'd like? The ability to legally field my Haemonculus plastic model and have his rules work.
Haemonculus can currently take two weapons. His model is holding three. Just another beautiful iteration of GW's "Maybe models, maybe rules???" policy.
Wasn't one of the things that Haemonculi carried a "tool" or wargear piece?
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Slayer-Fan123 wrote:You mean like how certain people complained about Hurricane Bolters being only a 4 point weapon when maybe 3 units can take it as an option?
Some people don't understand that low-priced hulls seem to pay for weapons while high priced hulls don't.
No, the Haemonculus Tool is his basic weapon (think "Chainsword") which he can swap out for a different melee weapon if he fancies one of his other 9-10 melee weapon options which are all some form of Poison, D1, AP not much if any, damage vehicles on a 6.
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"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!" |
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2018/02/22 16:23:10
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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According to someone on the French warhammer forum who has white dwarf already, the next codex wil be the Tau with a preorder on March 10th. 136 pages. Same price as custodes book. The white dwarf does not cover any preorders after the 10th.
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2018/02/22 16:39:33
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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the_scotsman wrote:
No, the Haemonculus Tool is his basic weapon (think "Chainsword") which he can swap out for a different melee weapon if he fancies one of his other 9-10 melee weapon options which are all some form of Poison, D1, AP not much if any, damage vehicles on a 6.
Gotcha. I meant more in the last edition, but it's good to know either way.
Hopefully they set you up like they do Techpriest Enginseers, where you have a blade and then "torturer's tools" that have some kind of bonus plus the pistol.
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2018/02/22 17:37:51
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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So what's coming out this weekend for pre-order?
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2018/02/22 17:42:31
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Courageous Beastmaster
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AoS daughters of Khaine
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2018/02/22 17:46:25
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Lieutenant General
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kronk wrote:So what's coming out this weekend for pre-order?
They always post what's going on pre-order on Saturday on Sunday on Warhammer Community.
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