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liking the orks getting some love. Maybe the other could be skorchas? They were the common along side warbuggies if memory serves me correctly.

while i suspect the new warbuggy in the speedfreeks game will not be "easy to build" but i do suspect they will minus a whole sprue.
remember when they did the armiger and it had extra bits that were in pics but not in the sprue and then later came out the helverin.(now i know its not a perfect example because they just separated the 2 kits, but i imagine at one point the contemplated haveing it be all in one box, likewise they probably debated this same practice with the big new fancy dakka knight).
i can imagine this happening to the warbuggie in the speedfreeks box, and then later they have an official warbuggie release with more sprue in it for more customization and watnot.(though do not be surprised if they do 2 separate boxes for the warbuggie with dif wpns and upgrades for each buggie)

also while looking closely at the buggie in the video and the sprue in the leaked pics of the box it seems like its the same kit. some have commented that the wheel is part of the housing, and that might mean its easy to build or something, but in the video the rear wheel has a division in it like it was 2 wheels put together with one slightly going under the housing. so i assume the bit in the spru literally gets another wheel added to it to beef up the numbers of wheels, because besides red paint any good mek knows more car parts means a faster car.

timd wrote:

XuQishi wrote:


And yes, it was a major flop, mostly because they made way too many boxes of it.

The fact that they were giving them away with one year White Dwarf subscriptions says a lot. That how I got mine. Played it very few times cause it was silly: Ork getting run over by a buggy takes a strength 3 hit? Right...

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I was purchase manager for a chain of independent game stores at the time of GorkaMorka's release and I remember the GW rep (in their usual enthusiasm) telling me this was the best game EVAR and saying we should AT LEAST order 96 copies (boxes were sold wholesale in cartons of 6) to keep up with the inevitable demand. (for perspective: That's the kind of numbers we bought of WFB boxes with a new release, back in the day when WFB was a big seller) He threw in 3 complementary copies as well for in-store demos. He was so confident in the product, that he said we could return any unsold boxes after Christmas (3-4 months later) and get a refund (not just credit!) for them.
Come January, I took him up on the offer. I don't recall exact numbers, but I believe we returned 80+ copies of the game. We got our refund and that GW sales rep disappeared soon after.

geargutz wrote:
while i suspect the new warbuggy in the speedfreeks game will not be "easy to build" but i do suspect they will minus a whole sprue.
remember when they did the armiger and it had extra bits that were in pics but not in the sprue and then later came out the helverin.(now i know its not a perfect example because they just separated the 2 kits, but i imagine at one point the contemplated haveing it be all in one box, likewise they probably debated this same practice with the big new fancy dakka knight).
i can imagine this happening to the warbuggie in the speedfreeks box, and then later they have an official warbuggie release with more sprue in it for more customization and watnot.(though do not be surprised if they do 2 separate boxes for the warbuggie with dif wpns and upgrades for each buggie)

also while looking closely at the buggie in the video and the sprue in the leaked pics of the box it seems like its the same kit. some have commented that the wheel is part of the housing, and that might mean its easy to build or something, but in the video the rear wheel has a division in it like it was 2 wheels put together with one slightly going under the housing. so i assume the bit in the spru literally gets another wheel added to it to beef up the numbers of wheels, because besides red paint any good mek knows more car parts means a faster car.

My thoughts exactly on the wheels but I'm not sure if they would pull an armiger with the game. The box with the armiger built a very specific force where as, in theory, speed freaks would have room for customization of cults right out of the box if the champagne rumor is true. Either way I must admit I'm psyched.

One thing I haven't seen discussed concerning the idea of two different buggies is the Wartrakk. What if its a new buggy AND a new Wartrakk, rather than two different buggies? the stats are already similar, and even if they combine them both into one entry in the Codex it would still be cool to have a tracked vehicle and a wheeled one.

The yellow and red sprues on the blurry photo have 4 wheels. That says Buggy not Trak to me. The mystery yellow sprue (the one being held up in the blurry photo, underneath the yellow bike sprue) could have anything on it. Too blurry to tell.

kimjappas wrote:
One thing I haven't seen discussed concerning the idea of two different buggies is the Wartrakk. What if its a new buggy AND a new Wartrakk, rather than two different buggies? the stats are already similar, and even if they combine them both into one entry in the Codex it would still be cool to have a tracked vehicle and a wheeled one.

The other vehicle could be something other than a 'Warbuggy' but it doesn't seem to be a Trakk as its missing the tracks.

I suspect it'll have a different name and another datasheet from the warbuggy. I'm pretty certain in fact because how many times has GW made multiple large vehicle models for the same datasheet?

If I were to guess if reckon the other vehicle is faster but slightly weaker in terms of damage output and/or durability.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

The other vehicle could be something other than a 'Warbuggy' but it doesn't seem to be a Trakk as its missing the tracks.

I guess I didn't see the extra wheels on that sprue. One wheel could have been a trakk still, but multiples? Too bad.

kimjappas wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

The other vehicle could be something other than a 'Warbuggy' but it doesn't seem to be a Trakk as its missing the tracks.

I guess I didn't see the extra wheels on that sprue. One wheel could have been a trakk still, but multiples? Too bad.

it could have 2 front wheels now like the battle wagon with tires up front and a traxx in back?

Maybe no traxx in speed freaks box set but new wartraxx when the rest of the codex drops.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
I suspect it'll have a different name and another datasheet from the warbuggy. I'm pretty certain in fact because how many times has GW made multiple large vehicle models for the same datasheet?

Does new nurgle plague drone count? It has both ETB and regular box.

Then there is Venerable dread which has wolfwolf and BA variants...

My theory - the video shows the new Ork Scorcha model, not a traditional warbuggy. Look at 54 sec mark, the camera very purposely zooms in and lingers on the 'exhausts' which happen to have burna/scorcha igniters under them!Also the unrecognised weapon could be a type of 'SupaScorcha'.

This gets around terrible Ork BS giving us a potentially viable vehicle - baby 'BigTrakk with SupaScorcha'. Also would help explain the size of the vehicle as Scorcha was always longer than the buggy. Finally that'd make the yellow sprue the Buggy, still bigger than old Buggy but with similar proportions.

Hmm, I’d say that the burny exhausts is a new vehicle CC weapon. Trukks have their wrecking balls, battlewagons their deffrollas, and now buggies get one too. Would love to do some drive by roasting!

would be hilarious if they gave buggies some kind of hit and run tactic in melee.

 Oguhmek wrote:
Hmm, I’d say that the burny exhausts is a new vehicle CC weapon. Trukks have their wrecking balls, battlewagons their deffrollas, and now buggies get one too. Would love to do some drive by roasting!

Perhaps, but I'm not so sure. If you re-watch the video at ~54s a few times, you'll see how obvious the flamer igniter part is. Flamer/scorcha/burna is never a CC weapon, always a short ranged weapon.

Also, I'm thinking it'd be kind of typical for modern day GW marketing to hide something like that in plain sight!

crzylgs wrote:
Flamer/scorcha/burna is never a CC weapon, always a short ranged weapon.

Wasnt a burna a power weapon in close combat for a few editions?

Basically.
If you didnt shoot with it, it had AP3 in melee.
Which was kinda stupid, im glad they got rid of that and just made it AP-2 all times. Having an ork not shoot his burna...wat?

Way back in 3rd the Burna also rolled 2d6 for armor penetration in close combat. That isn't really relevant to the new buggy, I just wish they'd replace the Pyromaniaks ability with something useful like +1 to wound vs vehicles.

The exhausts might be some sort of skorchas I guess but I feel like it's more likely going to translate to a mortal wound mechanism closer to flyers and their bombs.

Maybe if you drive past a unit within 3 inches you deal d3 hits that causes mortal wounds on 4+ or something like that

PiñaColada wrote:
The exhausts might be some sort of skorchas I guess but I feel like it's more likely going to translate to a mortal wound mechanism closer to flyers and their bombs.

Maybe if you drive past a unit within 3 inches you deal d3 hits that causes mortal wounds on 4+ or something like that

Yea haven't they stated that the model is an updates Warbuggy? It could be a Skorcha variant I suppose but seems odd they'd call it a Warbuggy.

I think the flamer exhausts are either aesthetic or mortal wounds on charge/drive by.

crzylgs wrote:
Perhaps, but I'm not so sure. If you re-watch the video at ~54s a few times, you'll see how obvious the flamer igniter part is.

They really don't look like flamer igniters to me. They just look like random greebling. I very much doubt that the exhausts will be weapons.

GW likes to make weapons very clear and distinctive. I can't see them making one which can be mistaken for just normal exhausts.

In that case it's more likely just an ability - causes D6 S4 hits to each enemy unit within 3" or something...

I mean if it actually is a weapon it could be that you get to make additional close combat attacks with a different profile. Or like a 3" pistol weapon maybe?

Edit: This boxed set pits you against a friend in a series of death races between a variety of Orkish speedsters, including the aforementioned Kustom Boosta-blasta and the Shokkjump Dragsta – a racer that uses shokk-attack technology to project itself ahead of the competition – or just into anyone that looks like they need smashin’ up.

PiñaColada wrote:
This boxed set pits you against a friend in a series of death races between a variety of Orkish speedsters, including the aforementioned Kustom Boosta-blasta and the Shokkjump Dragsta – a racer that uses shokk-attack technology to project itself ahead of the competition – or just into anyone that looks like they need smashin’ up.

Is that a quote from GW marketing or something?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/08/18/18th-aug-warhammer-fest-europe-live-bloggw-homepage-post-1fw-homepage-post-1/

Speed Freeks video and pics.

Note the first pic focusing on the "Shokkjump Dragsta" there is a vehicle in the background that has yet to be released. It looks to me like a boss model. There is a MASSIVE Ork on a vehicle of some sort.

Get hyped boys. Lolman it's finally Evil Sunz time!!

I'll start speculating wildly soon, once I have driven to my wife's parent's place.

From warhammer fest:

warhammer community wrote:This boxed set pits you against a friend in a series of death races between a variety of Orkish speedsters, including the aforementioned Kustom Boosta-blasta and the Shokkjump Dragsta – a racer that uses shokk-attack technology to project itself ahead of the competition – or just into anyone that looks like they need smashin’ up.

It's Ork-Dastardly & Squig-Mutley

Also, is the big rig type truck on the right new?

Mr Insomniac wrote:
Also, is the big rig type truck on the right new?

Very hard to make out, but I think it's just the existing trukk with some barricades obscuring the shape.


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A few more details from the video...

The kustom boosta-blasta's weapon seems to have a revolving magazine feed filled with what look like brass bolts (as in nuts and bolts, not bolt guns).

The yellow buggy on the box cover seems to be the shokkjump dragsta without its rack or rokkits.

The grot on the shokkjump dragsta seems to be loading the same kind of bolt as we see on the kustom boosta-blasta.

At 0:49 a big piece of ork terrain is visible in the background. Could easily be scratch-built; I'm not sure how willing to show stuff they don't sell in publicity shots new GW is...

The driver of the shokkjump dragsta looks kind of weird. I think he might be by the same sculptor who did the new painboy.

At 0:52 the vehicle in the background is a little clearer than in the still on WC. You can clearly see that it has a single front wheel (two wheels joined together, I think). Looks like some kind of trike with two orks, one very large, on it. You can see a power klaw with a grappling hook on the big ork. There is also a bike which seems to be just a normal warbike and that possible trukk, possibly something new behind it.

So perhaps they have slightly copied the way Ork fliers work. Where we have the Dakka Jet, Wazbom Blasta, Burna Bomba, Teleporta.

Now instead of bland buggy/wartrakk/scorcha... They have amped everything up to 11 and now we have 'Kustom Boosta-Blasta' 'Shokkjump dragsta' and perhaps another unknown variant or two.

Either way they look amazing. Might just about be worth the wait