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Hey everyone, I want to apologize ahead of time if my post comes off as a bit angry or short, but after today's events, I'm not in the greatest of moods.

So this afternoon, I went to my usual FLGS (which is actually a chain hobby store that sells models, RC cars, and scale trains). As soon as I walk in, the employee that is supposed to oversee the designated miniature gaming days walks up to me and says "You need to quit being whiny, Kevin (the owner) is getting really annoyed by it". So I just ignored him, and continued to paint. Well, about 10 minutes later, he walks up to me again and asks if I want to play one last fifth edition game. I told him that I only had my WarmaHordes stuff with me, because I'm more or less done with 40k. He responded by saying "Okay, well you can just get the F*** out of the store". At that point, I was starting to get a bit agitated, as up to that point I was having a pretty good day. Then about 15 minutes go by, and one of the other guys there points out the Stormwall I was currently working on, saying that it's my $130 waste (I only really paid $80 for it), because I "never play, but will sit there and paint". After him going on some more about how PP's prices are crap compared to GW, I finally say "Okay, I get it, you message me on facebook all the time saying the exact same thing, I'm tired of hearing it!". At that point, the employee says "well, not everyone is a whiny rich piece-of-s*** like you". at that point, I just lost it and packed my paint and stormwall up, and left. As I was walking away, I heard the employee say "As long as he still buys from us, I don't give a s*** what he does".

Well, little do they know that I'm not coming back, and I'm probably going to be emailing their corporate office about how I was treated.

Have any of you ever had a similar experience that made you leave your FLGS? Not counting GW stores, because we all know that 99% of them are run by jerks anyway.

I am rather shocked by this series of events, to be honest.

So the employee truly said these things to you unprovoked?

Get revenge.



Sleep with his mum!

I don't blame you for leaving. Interestingly, they're supposed to support all aspects of the hobby, be that painting, modelling, playing, or... whatever else is 'hobby' related. Those guys are just jerks and you should burn them.

Since I only have one FLGS in my whole country, I won't say anything bad. I will say, however, that the looks one gets when one mentions "Warmachine" "Wayland Games" or "Dawn of War" are simply hilarious (and things relating to them).

EDIT: Do e-mail their corporate office, or something in that vein. Their behaviour is definitely customer harassment, and is worth firing them over.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:Get revenge.

Sleep with his mum!

Always works. or simply find a new store.

Play with your friends in each others basement and order all your needs online.

gunslingerpro wrote:I am rather shocked by this series of events, to be honest.

So the employee truly said these things to you unprovoked?

Yes, I've been going there for almost a year, and he has always been somewhat rude to everyone (even at one point putting a full-size RC car on the table and running over people's stuff, interrupting four games in the process), but this was completely unprovoked.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:Get revenge.



Sleep with his mum!

God no, I've seen his mom and no amount of alcohol could make that happen.

Frozen Ocean wrote:I don't blame you for leaving. Interestingly, they're supposed to support all aspects of the hobby, be that painting, modelling, playing, or... whatever else is 'hobby' related. Those guys are just jerks and you should burn them.

Since I only have one FLGS in my whole country, I won't say anything bad. I will say, however, that the looks one gets when one mentions "Warmachine" "Wayland Games" or "Dawn of War" are simply hilarious (and things relating to them).

EDIT: Do e-mail their corporate office, or something in that vein. Their behaviour is definitely customer harassment, and is worth firing them over.

Honestly they all get a little mad when I'm not in a playing mood, even though we have had people show up and just sit on their laptops. I probably will send an email tomorrow once I have cooled down and had time to think...

BTW, why do they give you looks? Then again, when one mentions Dark Heresy at the store I posted about, everyone gives you looks.

Complain about it on Dakka.

d-usa wrote:Complain about it on Dakka.

This. Or torch his house. There's nothing in between.

Because Dawn of War, Privateer Press, and Wayland Games are all reminders that one does not spend their entire income in their store? I don't know. I know that at least several hobbyists actively despise the video games simply because they are video games. I had an argument with one such person that people who enter the hobby due to Dawn of War, Space Marine, or even Firewarrior are not true wargamers. Or some stupid stuff like that. Also, buying stuff from online stores like Wayland is like, cheating on them or something?

As for Privateer Press/Warmachine/Hordes? How dare you like something other than Warhammer!

angel of ecstasy wrote:

d-usa wrote:Complain about it on Dakka.

This. Or torch his house. There's nothing in between.

I wholeheartedly agree.

How is the store owner? If he is a reasonable and generally cool guy, I would lodge a complaint with him about how his employee is speaking to you. I would not stand for any of my employees treating a guest at my restaurant that way, nor would I put up with an employee elsewhere treating me or any other customer the same. If the store owner blows you off then I'd definitely not give any business to the store any more. I'd also probably block people on FB who constantly berate me over how I spend my hobby money.

Frozen Ocean wrote:Because Dawn of War, Privateer Press, and Wayland Games are all reminders that one does not spend their entire income in their store? I don't know. I know that at least several hobbyists actively despise the video games simply because they are video games. I had an argument with one such person that people who enter the hobby due to Dawn of War, Space Marine, or even Firewarrior are not true wargamers. Or some stupid stuff like that. Also, buying stuff from online stores like Wayland is like, cheating on them or something?

As for Privateer Press/Warmachine/Hordes? How dare you like something other than Warhammer!

angel of ecstasy wrote:

d-usa wrote:Complain about it on Dakka.

This. Or torch his house. There's nothing in between.

I wholeheartedly agree.

I see what you mean now. And as for what you said about playing something besides 40k, that's how a lot of people at that FLGS feel.

I whlehertedly hate it when i have to put my bags away when i go into my local hobby town, i go there after school sometimes with all my valuable books/school supply and they want to hold it for me.
I can understand 7-11 doing it because it is literally next to a HS/MS but this is a nice store.

helium42 wrote:How is the store owner? If he is a reasonable and generally cool guy, I would lodge a complaint with him about how his employee is speaking to you. I would not stand for any of my employees treating a guest at my restaurant that way, nor would I put up with an employee elsewhere treating me or any other customer the same. If the store owner blows you off then I'd definitely not give any business to the store any more. I'd also probably block people on FB who constantly berate me over how I spend my hobby money.

The reason I didn't mention this is that I have the feeling that this employee is a friend or relative of the manager. How else could he continue to work there while acting so inappropriately? Unfortunately, this is how these things work. -.-

Frozen Ocean wrote:

helium42 wrote:How is the store owner? If he is a reasonable and generally cool guy, I would lodge a complaint with him about how his employee is speaking to you. I would not stand for any of my employees treating a guest at my restaurant that way, nor would I put up with an employee elsewhere treating me or any other customer the same. If the store owner blows you off then I'd definitely not give any business to the store any more. I'd also probably block people on FB who constantly berate me over how I spend my hobby money.

The reason I didn't mention this is that I have the feeling that this employee is a friend or relative of the manager. How else could he continue to work there while acting so inappropriately? Unfortunately, this is how these things work. -.-

He's not a relative, and I guess you could call them friends, but the only reason he was hired is because he was coming into the store and managing to sell $200 worth of 40k stuff at a time. He's also the least professional person there, as he refuses to wear their uniform, and generally looks like he's homeless

I think that there is a much longer backstory to this particular confrontation that the OP has not shared with us.

Ever had a problem with this employee/store/group of other players before?

G. Whitenbeard wrote:I think that there is a much longer backstory to this particular confrontation that the OP has not shared with us.

Ever had a problem with this employee/store/group of other players before?

No, there isn't. Most of the time he isn't there, because he LARPs quite a bit, and when he is there, I don't really talk to him. As for the rest of the group, I get along fairly well with them, and even help them paint when/if they ask me to.

baritowned wrote: because he LARPs quite a bit

Actually the story makes a lot more sense now.......

baritowned wrote:

G. Whitenbeard wrote:I think that there is a much longer backstory to this particular confrontation that the OP has not shared with us.

Ever had a problem with this employee/store/group of other players before?

No, there isn't. Most of the time he isn't there, because he LARPs quite a bit, and when he is there, I don't really talk to him. As for the rest of the group, I get along fairly well with them, and even help them paint when/if they ask me to.

LARP you say?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5463194370273222085

G. Whitenbeard wrote:I think that there is a much longer backstory to this particular confrontation that the OP has not shared with us.

Ever had a problem with this employee/store/group of other players before?

I was thinking the same thing. So you have never become TFG who never really patronizes a store, or just sits and endlessly criticizes games and systems? If you've never provoked him, why would he say he's tired of your whining?

Also, ever stop to think that he may have had an epic bad day himself? Maybe was forced to work when he knew his mother was sick or something similar?

No one blows their top like this unless something triggered it...


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carmachu wrote:Play with your friends in each others basement and order all your needs online.

And this? Ignore this. People who actively want to stores to fail him will always find ways for them to do so.

MGS, that video made my day. Cheers good sir!

SoloFalcon1138 wrote:

carmachu wrote:Play with your friends in each others basement and order all your needs online.

And this? Ignore this. People who actively want to stores to fail him will always find ways for them to do so.

This is what I do, anyway. I only really go into the store when I'm already in the city it's in, happen to walk by, and think "Hey, I could get some Macragge Blue for my Alpha Legion" or something. It's cheaper to buy online, my friends are the only people I'm interested in playing with anyway, as well as the fact that games are infrequent in the store and that I'm fully capable of painting in the comfort of my own home.

Well you love in Cincy so I have to presume this is HobbyTown USA. Good news is that there are about 5 better stores all within driving distance.

Epic Loot is by Springbori and is a great store.
YottaQuest is in Mt Healthy and is more of a board game store, but has a great staff.
Art of War is in Anderson and has a fantastic game community.

LOL, sounds like the OP has a attitude problem with people who LARP.

Anyway, there are quite a few reasons why he could have snapped at you, from being chewed out by his boss, to derided by some of the customers. Perhaps it would be worthwhile talking straight to the manager of that store, accentuating the fact that this employee has actually done all those things.

Has anyone else had him be rude to them.

Can't complain about the flags here in Killeen Texas. Great owner, great staff. Just held the league day, big events and prize auction. Also, the local group of players are great and diverse. Any time you walk I there are usually at least three different systems being played from 40k, whfb, wm/h, malicaux, and dystopian wars/ firestorm armada.

Lol he's a LARPer explains a ton he has a lot of pent up nerd rage and no social skills in real life. Tell the owner what happened to you and say you will no longer be spending money there period.

I quit going to my FLGS when they kept coming up and watching my games and saying "Quit playing this crappy game and switch to warmachine" over and over and over again. Then I let a "crap" slip one game at like 9 pm with 4 or 5 adults in the room and one of the employees told me to quit cursing or leave.

Luckily, we have 2 other stores in my area. The aforementioned one went under a year ago. Go figure.

SoloFalcon1138 wrote:I was thinking the same thing. So you have never become TFG who never really patronizes a store, or just sits and endlessly criticizes games and systems? If you've never provoked him, why would he say he's tired of your whining?

Some people are just dicks. You don't always have to do anything to "provoke" someone into giving you gak, sometimes they just feel like being an ass to you. And sometimes these people get hired into jobs they shouldn't have.

SoloFalcon1138 wrote:Also, ever stop to think that he may have had an epic bad day himself? Maybe was forced to work when he knew his mother was sick or something similar?

And that makes it okay?

Doctadeth wrote:LOL, sounds like the OP has a attitude problem with people who LARP.

Anyway, there are quite a few reasons why he could have snapped at you, from being chewed out by his boss, to derided by some of the customers. Perhaps it would be worthwhile talking straight to the manager of that store, accentuating the fact that this employee has actually done all those things.

Has anyone else had him be rude to them.

I don't have a problem with LARPers. While I personally can find better ways to spend my time, I don't have a problem with them or what they do. All I said was that he is supposed to be there to monitor the gaming days, but instead he neglects his duties and goes LARPing.

As for other people having problems, I'd imagine the people who had most of their models run over by his RC car aren't very happy either.

And I thought I got bad treatment at one of the stores in town!

The only thing that has ever made me leave was at a game store in Boston that I won't name at this time. The staff were incompetent but didn't really matter that much to me, but the gaming group was absolutely atrocious. People would ask for my army list, read it, tailor theirs specifically to beat it, then gloat when they won. The group was somewhere between exclusive and downright hostile. Someone I talked to today described it as such: "Everyone was being so macho, you'd think this was a gay bar and they were all trying to pick each other up" or something to that degree. I can't say I disagree with that statement!