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So... you zoom a stormraven 36". Disembark the dreadnought 2", then get up to 12" assault?

Am I wrong here? What am I missing? This just doesn't sound right...

I believe, units cannot disembark from a zooming Flyer.

What your missing can be found under the disembarkation rule on page 79. You may only disembark before you move, or if you have moved the vehicle 6" or less. ToBeWilly also has it right, that if the vehicle zooms you cannot disembark from it. However, if you disembark before movement the vehicle has not zoomed and as such you can disembark from it.

Can't disembark if transport moved 6" or more.

There's also not such thing as a free 2'' inch deployment 'move' anymore.

think assault vechicles can move 6" and the dread can disembark 6 and assualt 2d6 so possiblity of a 24 inch assault range?

It's kind of confusing because in the rulebook it says that models cannot embark or disembark from a zooming flyer. However, as has been pointed out, when a model has a unique special rule from the codex that contradicts the rule in the main rulebook, you go with the codex. In the codex, they simply amended it to say if the raven moves more than 6" you can disembark troops but they do so via deep strike in the skies of blood rule. So, my interpretation is that a raven in zoom mode, can disembark troops but they all do so via deep strike and must come out somewhere along the vehicle's path of travel.

And of course we all know units arriving via deep strike cannot assault the turn they arrive, so no, you couldn't disembark using skies of blood and assault. If you wanted to disembark and assault you'd have to state the raven was coming in hover mode before moving it from reserves, in which case it's treated as a fast skimmer.

So, it looks like the answer is to have the stormraven fly out from the board edge so its close enough to launch an assault next turn, fire some guns, then next turn go hover and unload the dread into the enemy face.

Horst wrote:So, it looks like the answer is to have the stormraven fly out from the board edge so its close enough to launch an assault next turn, fire some guns, then next turn go hover and unload the dread into the enemy face.

That is certainly how I intend to use it. Although doing so will make your raven more exposed to enemy fire (no skyfire required to hit normally) but you'll have the jink special rule, even moving 6" you'll get the 5+ cover save.

nevermind....

Ravens' typically have the 'assault vehicle' USR.

So, unless otherwise prevented from doing so (by zooming or going flat out for example), models disembarking from it can assault the turn they do so.

Didn't notice if the above had been said already exactly, so i figured i'd chime in.

You can't assault from Reserves, either. If that's your plan.

Unless you have the assault vehicle rule, in which case you can. And the stormraven has that.

Except, that, the Rulebook says you can never assault from reserves. The Assault Vehicle special rule doesn't over rule the Reserves one.

Crazyterran wrote:Except, that, the Rulebook says you can never assault from reserves. The Assault Vehicle special rule doesn't over rule the Reserves one.

I thought special rules over rule the main rules? Could be wrong though...

Mick

Mick A wrote:

Crazyterran wrote:Except, that, the Rulebook says you can never assault from reserves. The Assault Vehicle special rule doesn't over rule the Reserves one.

I thought special rules over rule the main rules? Could be wrong though...

Mick

No, more specific rules override general rules.

The assault ramp rules only allow units to ignore the normal prohibition against charging after disembarking. If there is any other kind of prohibition preventing the unit from assaulting for any other reason, the assault ramp in no way suddenly erases those prohibitions as well.

I was just referring to the poster that said you can't assault after disembarking. Looks like I was late. Yes, you cannot assault out of reserves.

Otherwise, can move 6", get out, assault.