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2012/07/30 21:50:29
Subject: Worst pre-heresy space marine legion
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Slippery Scout Biker
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I just made a thread on the best time to do the worst, so in your opinion what is the worst pre-heresy legion and why.
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2012/07/30 22:09:32
Subject: Worst pre-heresy space marine legion
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Well, II and XI didn't leave much of an impression, did they?
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Red Hunters: 2000 points Grey Knights: 2000 points Black Legion: 600 points and counting |
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2012/07/30 22:11:48
Subject: Worst pre-heresy space marine legion
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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I'm gonna say Alpha Legion because I've always wanted to see a MOD cry.
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Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
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2012/07/30 22:31:23
Subject: Worst pre-heresy space marine legion
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Word Bearers without a doubt.
Accomplished the least during the Crusade. Chastised by the Emprah for wasting time. Fell to Chaos first because their primarch was an emo whiner with daddy issues. Considered so expendable that Horus sacrificed them to stall the Ultramarines. Failed to destroy or even stop the Ultramarines even with complete surprise. Primarch wandered off to write a book that nobody would ever read for the next 10,000 years.
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2012/07/31 00:25:59
Subject: Worst pre-heresy space marine legion
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Apparently the Tenth Legion weren't very good, which is a shame, since I collect them.
The Iron Hands have always had the raw deal in the 40k universe.
They were the first legion to lose their Primarch, they lost most of their legion in the Istvaan V Massacre and they are rarely shown in the 40k lore, with some people thinking of them as a boring chapter/legion.
For me, this is what makes them appealing to me.
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2012/07/31 00:35:02
Subject: Re:Worst pre-heresy space marine legion
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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Well, as English Assassin says except for the 2nd and 11th legions (who were presumably quite poor, as they got beaten so badly they were erased from existence!), and as Veteran Sergeant has already chosen the Word Bearers, I would probably say the Iron Hands. Basically just seem to rampage about all over the place, got their Primarch killed first, and then got utterly sandwiched on Istvaan.
The Thousand Sons were probably the unluckiest, you certainly wouldn't want to go on a trip to Vegas with Magnus.
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2012/07/31 00:51:24
Subject: Re:Worst pre-heresy space marine legion
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Battleship Captain
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Pacific wrote:Well, as English Assassin says except for the 2nd and 11th legions (who were presumably quite poor, as they got beaten so badly they were erased from existence!), and as Veteran Sergeant has already chosen the Word Bearers, I would probably say the Iron Hands. Basically just seem to rampage about all over the place, got their Primarch killed first, and then got utterly sandwiched on Istvaan.
The Thousand Sons were probably the unluckiest, you certainly wouldn't want to go on a trip to Vegas with Magnus.
Ahem, research tells that noone knows what happened to the 2nd and 11th legions. They could have been the most powerful traitors, they could have been sent off on a series of secret crusades in the warp, they could have just worshipped the Emperor as a god against his wishes. Whatever it is, it is up to speculation, and claiming they got beaten at anything is an unascertainable assumption.
To answer the OP, considering the jobs of the SM legions were to serve the Emperor and expand/protect the Empire, all of the traitor legions were quite poor at this job. 9-way tie for the worst at their job in fact. (Luna Wolves arguably nudging ahead by a nose ((snout)) but I digress.)
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2012/07/31 00:54:31
Subject: Worst pre-heresy space marine legion
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Bounding Assault Marine
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Veteran Sergeant wrote:Word Bearers without a doubt.
Accomplished the least during the Crusade. Chastised by the Emprah for wasting time. Fell to Chaos first because their primarch was an emo whiner with daddy issues. Considered so expendable that Horus sacrificed them to stall the Ultramarines. Failed to destroy or even stop the Ultramarines even with complete surprise. Primarch wandered off to write a book that nobody would ever read for the next 10,000 years.
This. completely got the drop on the Ultras, yet still couldnt finish the job.
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There is only the Emperor! He is our shield and protector.
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2012/07/31 01:28:43
Subject: Worst pre-heresy space marine legion
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Nasty Nob
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Word Bearers. They fell waaaay behind the others.
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2012/07/31 04:05:37
Subject: Re:Worst pre-heresy space marine legion
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Fixture of Dakka
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Word Bearers.
They were slow, incompetent, and traitors (yes, even before the Heresy).
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
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2012/07/31 06:04:27
Subject: Re:Worst pre-heresy space marine legion
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Unhealthy Competition With Other Legions
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TheCaptain wrote:Pacific wrote:Well, as English Assassin says except for the 2nd and 11th legions (who were presumably quite poor, as they got beaten so badly they were erased from existence!), and as Veteran Sergeant has already chosen the Word Bearers, I would probably say the Iron Hands. Basically just seem to rampage about all over the place, got their Primarch killed first, and then got utterly sandwiched on Istvaan.
The Thousand Sons were probably the unluckiest, you certainly wouldn't want to go on a trip to Vegas with Magnus.
Ahem, research tells that noone knows what happened to the 2nd and 11th legions. They could have been the most powerful traitors, they could have been sent off on a series of secret crusades in the warp, they could have just worshipped the Emperor as a god against his wishes. Whatever it is, it is up to speculation, and claiming they got beaten at anything is an unascertainable assumption.
To answer the OP, considering the jobs of the SM legions were to serve the Emperor and expand/protect the Empire, all of the traitor legions were quite poor at this job. 9-way tie for the worst at their job in fact. (Luna Wolves arguably nudging ahead by a nose ((snout)) but I digress.)
No reason to be rude mate if you actually read the HH series and do a bit of research yourself, you'll see how heavily hinted their circumstances are. One most likely loyal, however their primarch probably ended up doing something that resulted in him being imprisoned or killed, and his legion then being inducted into the ranks of the Ultramarines. The other one went rogue and got slaughtered by russ, that we know for certain.
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2012/07/31 06:32:22
Subject: Re:Worst pre-heresy space marine legion
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Mutating Changebringer
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White Scars.
'Cause ain't nobody heard nothin' 'bout 'em.
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2012/07/31 06:37:31
Subject: Worst pre-heresy space marine legion
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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Ehhhhhh, Lorgar wrote the Lectitio Divinitatus so he's kind of the founder of the Emperor Cult, ironically, I guess. So he can't possibly be the worst of the Pre Heresy legions, as he arguably has had the biggest impact upon the imperium with the possible exception of horus and rowboat.
Personally I really dislike the Emperors children Pre-Heresy as they all come across as huuuuuuuuuuuuuge dicks.
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2012/07/31 08:30:34
Subject: Worst pre-heresy space marine legion
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Bounding Assault Marine
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Ratbarf wrote:Ehhhhhh, Lorgar wrote the Lectitio Divinitatus so he's kind of the founder of the Emperor Cult, ironically, I guess. So he can't possibly be the worst of the Pre Heresy legions, as he arguably has had the biggest impact upon the imperium with the possible exception of horus and rowboat.
Personally I really dislike the Emperors children Pre-Heresy as they all come across as huuuuuuuuuuuuuge dicks.
Thats a failure too, Emperor didnt want to be worshipped as a g-d. Lorgar didnt do anything right.
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There is only the Emperor! He is our shield and protector.
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2012/08/06 12:58:23
Subject: Re:Worst pre-heresy space marine legion
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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DeffDred wrote:White Scars.
'Cause ain't nobody heard nothin' 'bout 'em.
I'm still waiting for the epic Heresy book saying that White Scars owned all.
The worst: Word Bearers
Least Favourite: Salamanders
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2017/10/19 17:29:28
Subject: Worst pre-heresy space marine legion
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Space Marine Scout with Sniper Rifle
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The Night Lords. Sneaky violent jerks...
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The Lego Communist:
2000pts Bane Of Sanity.
The Executioner:
500pts Deathwing Cohort.
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2017/10/19 17:41:53
Subject: Re:Worst pre-heresy space marine legion
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[DCM]
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5+ years necro?
Please, no...
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