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Resin heads & pauldrons are no big deal. I'd rather they've been in plastic(and they might yet) but they're easy to work with and look fething dope.
Comparing the FW 30&40k Salamanders shoulder pads I have in resin to the DW/Primaris plastics it's not even funny how much better the FW ones look. But they should keep the same price but double the bits, which we all know they won't do.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Given the consternation we've seen on the topic of shoulder pad seams brought about by two-piece studded pauldrons, I think resin as a medium for new pads is perfectly fine going forward.
I'd be totally happy if they just threw 40 resin shoulder pads and 40 resin heads in a box for, I dunno, $40USD?
I'd even be happy if the ones that came in the actual boxed set itself were resin, for small bits resin is fine.
It's just the price (and to a lesser extent shipping from the UK), $4.70USD per model to swap heads and shoulder pads? No thanks.
Let's not pretend these resin upgrades are a necessity for collecting a HH army. Use transfers, kitbash existing plastic bits, etc. At the end of the day, your modelling and painting skills dictate the overall look of the model far more than a couple resin bling bits.
tauist wrote: Let's not pretend these resin upgrades are a necessity for collecting a HH army. Use transfers, kitbash existing plastic bits, etc. At the end of the day, your modelling and painting skills dictate the overall look of the model far more than a couple resin bling bits.
The fact they aren't necessary doesn't really invalidate the complaints. I want nice moulded shoulder pads. I want alternative heads. GW have just provided an unappealing product for me.
I'd have prefered plastic myself but other then "I have to use a dab of super glue" I don't see any huge downside to resin eneguh to be an "auto disqualifer"
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
BrianDavion wrote: I'd have prefered plastic myself but other then "I have to use a dab of super glue" I don't see any huge downside to resin eneguh to be an "auto disqualifer"
There's always your good ol' ForgeWorld stamp of quality, aka visible 3D print lines from the master, bubbles, miscasts and the such.
"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
- Jiado
BrianDavion wrote: I'd have prefered plastic myself but other then "I have to use a dab of super glue" I don't see any huge downside to resin eneguh to be an "auto disqualifer"
There's always your good ol' ForgeWorld stamp of quality, aka visible 3D print lines from the master, bubbles, miscasts and the such.
BrianDavion wrote: I'd have prefered plastic myself but other then "I have to use a dab of super glue" I don't see any huge downside to resin eneguh to be an "auto disqualifer"
It’s not an auto disqualifier by any means, especially parts like this that shouldn’t have any major quality issues (just one part as opposed to trying to build a whole resin tank for example). But it does mean they’ll be more expansive, no discount available, and a second order with postage unless they happen to sell them through the GW store.
BrianDavion wrote: I'd have prefered plastic myself but other then "I have to use a dab of super glue" I don't see any huge downside to resin eneguh to be an "auto disqualifer"
There's always your good ol' ForgeWorld stamp of quality, aka visible 3D print lines from the master, bubbles, miscasts and the such.
This is something that's happened? Wow.
Yeah, a few times, like with some runs of the Angel's Tears, the Knight Asterius, or one of the SoH Praetors. They're usually not that blatant and can be easily rectified but- c'mon guys.
"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
- Jiado
If half the products that went out had print lines and it wasn't just a few cases then it wouldn't be rare. But that isn't the case so it's rare.
As for the material it is better than older FW resin.
BrianDavion wrote: I'd have prefered plastic myself but other then "I have to use a dab of super glue" I don't see any huge downside to resin eneguh to be an "auto disqualifer"
There's always your good ol' ForgeWorld stamp of quality, aka visible 3D print lines from the master, bubbles, miscasts and the such.
This is something that's happened? Wow.
My Forge World Arvus Lighters have visible print lines on many surfaces, and also supports that clearly aren't needed for resin casting but exist because it was 3D printed and they didn't bother resculpting supports prior to making the silicone moulds.
It's put me off buying other things I might have wanted from FW.
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Wha-Mu-077 wrote: Yeah, a few times, like with some runs of the Angel's Tears, the Knight Asterius, or one of the SoH Praetors. They're usually not that blatant and can be easily rectified but- c'mon guys.
I don't think they are really "easily rectified" unless you mean "cover with a super thick coat of primer" which then removes one of the main benefits of using resin in the first place (sharp details).
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BrianDavion wrote: I'd have prefered plastic myself but other then "I have to use a dab of super glue" I don't see any huge downside to resin eneguh to be an "auto disqualifer"
There's always your good ol' ForgeWorld stamp of quality, aka visible 3D print lines from the master, bubbles, miscasts and the such.
This is something that's happened? Wow.
My Forge World Arvus Lighters have visible print lines on many surfaces, and also supports that clearly aren't needed for resin casting but exist because it was 3D printed and they didn't bother resculpting supports prior to making the silicone moulds.
It's put me off buying other things I might have wanted from FW.
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Wha-Mu-077 wrote: Yeah, a few times, like with some runs of the Angel's Tears, the Knight Asterius, or one of the SoH Praetors. They're usually not that blatant and can be easily rectified but- c'mon guys.
I don't think they are really "easily rectified" unless you mean "cover with a super thick coat of primer" which then removes one of the main benefits of using resin in the first place (sharp details).
Tbh, I think it fething sucks, it's just that everyone always rails on me for being too negative, so I gotta try to at leat limit it at bit.
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"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
- Jiado
Leo_the_Rat wrote: @ Wha-mu - I'm sure it's me but I don't see anything wrong with the picture of the head. Could you point out what the problem with it is?
The layer lines all over it, when it's a FW model instead of a printed at home one?
RazorEdge wrote: I have a super cheap (180€) 3D printer and still have smaller and lesser visible printing lines....
Just like the split shoulder pad joints, a little hobby work on every surface done individually by thousands of customers instead of a single GW employee should fix it!
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warboss wrote: [Just like the split shoulder pad joints, a little hobby work on every surface done individually by thousands of customers instead of a single GW employee should fix it!
Not really the same. The printing lines could be fixed by FW cleaning up the printed parts more thoroughly before making the mould. The split shoulder pads are a necessity to avoid the nasty undercuts on the studs, which look far worse and which are basically impossible for someone to fix without basically re-sculpting the affected studs, which is far harder than just filling the seam (which will basically be done automatically anyway if you use liquid poly, apply it to both sides and leave them for a short while before pressing together firmly). One is a case of cutting corners, the other is a design decision to get round the limitations of plastic.
warboss wrote: [Just like the split shoulder pad joints, a little hobby work on every surface done individually by thousands of customers instead of a single GW employee should fix it!
Not really the same. The printing lines could be fixed by FW cleaning up the printed parts more thoroughly before making the mould. The split shoulder pads are a necessity to avoid the nasty undercuts on the studs, which look far worse and which are basically impossible for someone to fix without basically re-sculpting the affected studs, which is far harder than just filling the seam (which will basically be done automatically anyway if you use liquid poly, apply it to both sides and leave them for a short while before pressing together firmly). One is a case of cutting corners, the other is a design decision to get round the limitations of plastic.
It was a joke.
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