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If you have been the hobby for a while, you will eventually end up with OOP models. The rules for a model are not typically impacted when a new version is released, it is just an update to the look of the model. However, models have been release over the years which do have an impact on the rules. I have several OOP obliterators (6) and OOP terminators (20+). They were shipped with and put together with small bases.

What should I do with these models? Are they legal with the current rules or do they have to be rebased? What have people done with their models?

Paint them as best you can and make them look good. Most people will not care.

As for the Oblits and Terms, you can always rebase or glue on top of the other larger base. Yes, it will make them a few mm taller, but again most people will not care.

They are legal models, even if you do nothing to them.

Personally, I don;t care about what model was used as long as it looks good.

They are legal and do not have to rebased.

A lot of people do however, because it prevents arguments.

As you have to 'put them on the base they came with', it's entirely legal to leave them on the smaller bases.

But as has been stated, some people view the practice of using older models for smaller base sizes or smaller models (for easier cover saves and denying line of sight) as a form of modelling for advantage, so if you want to avoid arguments altogether, it's probably best to mount them on the base size the current models come with.

Anyone have pics of how they did this?

I personally don't see how this could be an argument it has been stated over the years that you can play with miniatures mounted on the bases they were supplied with. If it's a conversion ok you can argue about the dimensions but when it is an official miniature bought from GW there really isn't much you can do is just a fact. This miniature is mounted on this base because that's the way GW sold it to me.

Well some people intentionally scavenge older models from eBay and such for the sole purpose of gaining an in-game advantage. Models like the old Ork Trukk, Tyranid Hive Tyrant or Eldar Avatar are around half the size then their modern counterparts.

It's somewhat like modeling all your models in the kneeling or prone positions. It's legal, but it might get you a few frowned brows.

Redemption wrote:Well some people intentionally scavenge older models from eBay and such for the sole purpose of gaining an in-game advantage. Models like the old Ork Trukk, Tyranid Hive Tyrant or Eldar Avatar are around half the size then their modern counterparts
It's somewhat like modeling all your models in the kneeling or prone positions. It's legal, but it might get you a few frowned brows.

And there are some people who really enjoy the old models. I am the proud owner of 4 2e screamer-killers and a 3e carnifex, all of which I use.

The base can be an issue that I avoid by simply gluing the old base on top of the "proper" one. It is a concession we have to make for the new versions of models.

Oh yeah, I always get a kick out of seeing someone who has been in the hobby for a long time pull out some old and rare models. And if, like you, they take the effort to make them comparable in (base) size, I praise them even more.

I once met a player who had a lot of old terminators, who he had re-based on new 40mm resin scenic bases. With the stairs, rocks and thicker bases he even accounted for the small size difference between the models, and it looked amazing.

There is no reason not to use the new base size for old OOP models 'counting as' their newer counterpart. The new 6th edition rule is slightly different than the 5th and talks about using the appropriate base size...

I just based 10 2nd edition MANZ, and they are all on 40mms... why? because I have 2 other units of MANZ also on 40mm and for me to play a game with all 3 units of MANZ and then have some on 40mm and some on 25mm is absurd and no TO anywhere would accept it.

I have seen 25mm termies blue taced to 40mm empty bases almost every time they show up to any tourney... Do yourself a favor, for simple models with clear base sizes (like terminators, and oblits) just do the 40mm.

I mean maybe once every 10 years a new model comes out which upsizes the base a bit and you have to rebase a few models but it really isn't frequent.

I think it really comes down to how you are using a model, if you are using the old model to get a LOS advantage or some other advantage some people will care, if you are using it because it looks awesome less people will care(there will probably be someone).

I rebased all my older Nids. Still doing it actully. The old square bases on the SK, tyrant and warriors were always a pain anyway.

As for MFA, the only models I don't use as what it looks like is the old hive tyrant and the really old carnifex (the old grinning one with the rhino horn.) I use those as Primes though.