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Its not up yet but info from Gencon

GenCon - Mantic Games Dreadball
Mantic Games announced Dreadball, a futuristic Sport game.


Kickstarter campiagn will go live in 10 days.
Base game set includes Orcs and Humans.
Forgefathers and Veer-Myn as Booster Teams.

3 kinds of players (strong brawlers, field player, fast players).
Veer-Myn won't have brawlers.
Forgefathers won't have fast players.

No reset of teams after score.

4 stats for players, streamlined for fast play.

Miniatures one piece or snap-fit, plastic, individual poses.

I'm certainly interested...

Definitely interested to see how this shakes out. Bloodbowl is still one of the greatest games GW ever put out (IMO). If I could find people to play with... If this ends up being a more "straight out of the box" solution, then I could be into it. At least, assuming it's anywhere near the same kind of game...

Regardless of the game, that's a great marketing piece-- very cool execution.

Looks great. And nice to finally see Mantic making something original instead of just copying old GW products...

Hmm, heard about this for a while now. Could make a good present for the other gamers in my household!

Provided the minis are good, (and from the two shown I have high hopes) and they have some attractive stretch goals I may just get this!

Gorlack wrote:Looks great. And nice to finally see Mantic making something original instead of just copying old GW products...

Yes, Bloodbowl but in space is something completely original. The artwork and minis so far look decent though.

While there are lots of better things to do than attempt to clone bloodbowl, especially since Bloodbowl has one of the best rulesets out there on the tabletop and any attempt to out do it will fail... that ork looks fantastic. First Ork I have liked.

I hope this game pans out to be original sport boardgame and not just an inferior rip-off of bloodbowl. I have seen some awesome attempts like the fantasy Hockey game and such.

Still won't give a dime to the kickstarter. Make a good game with good figures and sell it like a business and I will then give you my money for said product. When I buy a car, I don't give the dealer my money and then ask them to go invent it and design it and provide me a car a year later.

Brother SRM wrote:

Gorlack wrote:Looks great. And nice to finally see Mantic making something original instead of just copying old GW products...

Yes, Bloodbowl but in space is something completely original. The artwork and minis so far look decent though.

HAHA.

Reading between the lines I can only assume BloodFleet will follow soon.

nkelsch wrote:

Still won't give a dime to the kickstarter. Make a good game with good figures and sell it like a business and I will then give you my money for said product. When I buy a car, I don't give the dealer my money and then ask them to go invent it and design it and provide me a car a year later.

This.

I did give to a local business, but that was something different.

Brother SRM wrote:

Gorlack wrote:Looks great. And nice to finally see Mantic making something original instead of just copying old GW products...

Yes, Bloodbowl but in space is something completely original. The artwork and minis so far look decent though.

I was actually being sarcastic. Guess it wasn't clear enoguh for you.

And don't think we will see dreadfleet in space, since that is basically battlefleet gothic, so the next will probably be space quest hm... I might actually be interrested in that...

Gorlack wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:

Gorlack wrote:Looks great. And nice to finally see Mantic making something original instead of just copying old GW products...

Yes, Bloodbowl but in space is something completely original. The artwork and minis so far look decent though.

I was actually being sarcastic. Guess it wasn't clear enoguh for you.

I thought it was abundantly clear...

It was the 3 periods that did it for me

Kickstarter campaign?

I was under the impression that this was already being produced, several websites already have all four teams and the special characters up for pre-order.

I can do my usual work of OP-admin on the thread for this if Dakka would like. It should be a lot easier and smaller than the KoW one to keep track of though since I'm guessing they'll mainly be looking at using kickstarter as a marketing vector for this one rather than giving away a lot of free stuff.

As for the game, I dunno, not interested in sports games, so I'll give it a miss.

I'm fine with Mantic broadly following in the path of GW games for their specialist games (So far we've had WH Quest and Space Hulk in the form of DKH and PP), because I know that eventually it'll result in me getting what I really want...either 6mm scale or warband-level Skirmish for either fantasy or sci-fi.

OOOH, if this is any good, I may have to pick the game up to have a go with my brother. Does anyone know if it's going to be bogged down in loads of rules or is it going to be a light and easy game for non tabletop gaming people?

^ Judging by Mantic's current track record, the latter.

All their rules are extremely light reading, the rules are likely to be a 24-page mini-book, same as all their other board games.

I'm a little confused about why they'd go the kickstarter route with this one. If they're only doing 4 teams and special characters then I wonder about how much they could do in terms of stretch goals. I doubt they'd release teams for the other Warpath races prior to getting the armies ready for the main game, so the scope seems fairly limitied.

But they are the ones who know what their plans are so hopefully it'll be a fun ride to watch.

Honestly, I too am past the point of being sick of all the kickstarters.

But I can't blame Mantic (or anyone) for still running them - damn near all of them make a stupid amount of money, and on the consumer end you generally wind up getting a really good bargain. It's pretty much a win-win.

I just wonder if 2013 is going to be a terrible year sales-wise for the wargaming industry, since everyone will have spent so much money this year, and will be getting all of their toys next year ...

Hm, I'd actually like to see them complete the Kings of War Kickstarter project before starting a new one.

scarletsquig wrote:Kickstarter campaign?
I was under the impression that this was already being produced, several websites already have all four teams and the special characters up for pre-order.

May I remind you of a certain "Kings of War" kickstarter campaign that started long after Mantic had the product on preorder with a fixed release date (which turned out one day after kickstarter end) and people having paid for it (more than kickstarter requested BTW)? This is how Mantic does things. Get used to it.

I certainly hope it's not run like Relic Knights with stretch goals all over in order to "unlock" things they plan to do regardless within the timeframe anyway.

Kroothawk wrote:

scarletsquig wrote:Kickstarter campaign?
I was under the impression that this was already being produced, several websites already have all four teams and the special characters up for pre-order.

May I remind you of a certain "Kings of War" kickstarter campaign that started long after Mantic had the product on preorder with a fixed release date (which turned out one day after kickstarter end) and people having paid for it (more than kickstarter requested BTW)? This is how Mantic does things. Get used to it.

Yeah, it IS absolutely unacceptable for them to keep pulling this sort of stuff!

That Kings of War did absolutely nothing but line Mantic's pockets! Well except for getting those sexy as Werewolves and Ogres moved up along production queue, oh and providing people a sweet entry point into massive armies, ah crap I am forgetting those sweet free miniatures and 2 for 1 dealies as well, oh and give some lucky people with money to burn to become a character in the mantic world.

But other than that! Absolute Bollocks! Kroothawk is right! Down with Mantic's Kickstarters!


If this Kickstarter is the same I won't be that upset, it means that if enough money is pumped in we can get other race's teams out earlier? Get a cheaper deal maybe? Hell, if lucky I might even be able to drop a grand in and become the equivalent of a Bloodbowl Star Player, and you can be I won't be going down the route of Griff Oberwald and wearing a Chicken on my head. Though I seriously doubt I would be able to afford that pleasure

Now it is 6am here and I have to run off and actually help run a Bloodbowl Tourney.

@scipio: That's what I meant when I posted. Not bothered about the fact that it's going to get made anyway, just that there is very little room for expansion with this beyond what they're already doing. They could do some more special characters as stretch goals and add cool counters and stuff to the game, I guess.. but then as you said, we're back in Relic Knights territory.

4 teams and characters are already being made regardless... where do they go from there with the stretch goals?

Plague and Zzor aren't suitable for expansion teams, Rebels are covered by Humans, and I dunno.. maybe Asterians, but based on their background that seems unlikely.

Whereas if this was a kickstarter for a second project pandora set (maybe Corporation vs. Zz'or?), there would be all sorts of cool stuff they could do... big stretch goals to put Corp Marines and Zz'or into hard plastic, with cross-over sales to the Warpath range as people want to buy bucketloads of Zz'or and Corp.

With this, you can't use a dude in a football suit on a hexagon base in Warpath (or pretty much any other game out there), out of all the board games Mantic has made this is the only one that isn't suited to the kickstarter format since there isn't any crossover potential. DreadBall minis have to be used in DreadBall (or any other sci-fi sports games out there that I am currently oblivious to).

I guess it depends on whether Dreadball happens in the "proper" Warpath universe, or a "comedy version" of it, like Bloodbowl is to The Old World.

Does Mantic ever have original ideas? Seriously, this is getting old.

Dreadball reminds me of that terrible movie called Rollerball (the remake).

Should have had Paul Heyman advertise Dreadball

It's DrrrrrrrreadBallllll!


http://www.metacafe.com/watch/mv-P2fXF/its_rollerball/

I'm confused, the minis aren't fantasy orcs with footballs added!

It had to happen sooner or later and GW has only themselves to blame.

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Some interesting looking mini's, I would love to see the Veer-Myn team.

This could work.....