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Not yet mentioned: The limited editions of armybook and Codex, each with 4 different covers of the 4 different Chaos Gods.




























Preorder 23rd February, release 2nd March.
Official teaser video:



New release list posted by pizzaguardian, with added prices by BOLS and Hitsugaya Toushiro over at Warseer and pics from Plastik Krak's blog:
New Range Items

Warhammer: Daemons of Chaos
96 page full colour, hardback Warhammer Armies book € 39,00 / $49.50


Codex: Chaos Daemons
104 page full colour, hardback Codex € 39,00 / $49.50



Chaos Daemons: Plague Drones of Nurgle
This box contains a multipart plastic kit that makes three Plague Drones that are multi-posable and offer collectors a large variety when assembling them € 46,00 / $60.00


Chaos Daemons: Burning Chariot of Tzeentch/Herald of Tzeentch on Burning Chariot of Tzeentch
This box contains a multipart plastic kit that makes either a Burning Chariot of Tzeentch or a Herald of Tzeentch on a Burning Chariot of Tzeentch € 35,00 / $40.00




Chaos Daemons: Blood Throne of Khorne/Skull Cannon of Khorne
This box contains a multipart plastic kit that makes either a Blood Throne of Khorne or a Skull Cannon of Khorne € 35,00 / $40.00




Herald of Nurgle
This Clampack contains a new plastic Herald of Nurgle on a sculpted base € 20,00 / $25.00



New Finecast Releases

Herald of Khorne
A clampack that contains one highly detailed Citadel Finecast resin miniature € 20,00 (probably $25.00 as well)


Herald of Slaanesh
A clampack that contains one highly detailed Citadel Finecast resin miniature € 20,00 (probably $25.00 as well)




Available While Stocks Last
These Items are highly limited, please request the quantity you require and we will supply you as close to this number as we can.

Warhammer Battle Magic: Daemons of Chaos
A deck of 21 cards that contains the 6 spells for the Lores of Tzeentch, Nurgle and Slaanesh as well as their signature spells € 8,50

Psychic Powers: Chaos Daemons
A deck of 12 cards that contains the Primaris powers and 3 Psychic powers for the Lores Tzeentch, Slaanesh, Nurgle as well € 6,00


Added:

WFB: Chaos Daemons Battalion/Battleforce $115.00


TastyTaste from Blood of Kittens wrote:
I am one to think that they aren't coming out just yet, but maybe with the April release. With rules rumors being hard to come by let us look at some obvious ones right in front us and others not so much.

As most people realize Daemons will lose both Fearless and Eternal Warrior replaced with 5+ invulnerable and Fear. Eternal Warrior never really made sense in the grand scheme of things anyway because wouldn't Force Weapons be perfect to "banish" Daemons back to the War? As for Fearless, see a return of "instability" which is going to be close to 5th edition Fearless.

As I stated in a previous rumor GW is hell-bent on having each army hate something. Daemons are no different they just seem to hate themselves now.

Taking a look at the Chaos Space Marine and Warriors of Chaos books you can see where this is going. Each Chaos God units will hate a certain other god. This leads into the next rules change right in front of us. Depending on the Daemon's God it will determine the special abilities they get.

Khorne: Furious Charge

Slaanesh: Rending, Run bonus, Fleet

Tzeentch: Re-roll 1s for saves

Nurgle: Slow & Purposeful, Shrouded

Other changes that will surely happen...

Flamers and Screamers are getting nerfed, but the real big change will be Deamons having standard Deployment rules: no more Daemonic Assault.

The big reason Deamons were fast tracked has to do with Alessio Cavatore. Chatting with a few inside GW there has been an everything Alessio purge, and Daemons are the last big chunk of Alessio material left. Yeah, I know it sounds kinda petty, but it was a major impetus to get Daemons done. Daemons will still primarily be an assault based army, but that is the nature of the models having to be used both for Fantasy and 40k. That means Daemons will rely on speed to get across the board. Expect Chariots, warp portals, beasts, cavalry, jump troops to help with all this. Then there is cover saves Nurgle is the first piece of the puzzle, but just like certain Dark Angel things expect a "Clouds of Flies" to provide bonuses to cover saves all around. Chaos Space Marines and Deamons ICs will be able to join each other as long as their gods match up.

Things have been spares from all rumor mongers, but a lot has to do with GW "renewed" lock down; translated GW rumor monger wack'a'mole.

Another good thing to understand is GW is moving quicker with releases than ever before. They had almost an entire year to create a backlog on sculpting and rules. To give you an example, the Chaos Space Marine codex was done in December of 2011. I am not talking about just the rules, but everything the photography, the layout, everything! Dark Angels same thing, done in March 2011. That means Daemons have been done since June and Tau and Eldar compelete or almost complete.

What I am getting at is this is going to be an epic year for releases, with only the Chapterhouse lawsuit and a new CEO possibly getting in the way.

Finally, I have a public service announcement from the dev team, they really want rules questions, so everyone keep on sending in any rules quandaries to

Gamefaqs@gwplc.com

The design team has made updating FAQs a priority, which has been a marked and great change from years past.

Rules information leaked to the german website GW Fanworld and translated by Mohoc:
Daemons:
Daemon belong to a specific god and have USR Hatred for their opposing god (Nurgle/Tzeentch, Khorne/Slaanesh). Herald of one god cannot join a unit from another god.
Khorne USR: Rage, Re-Roll Charge distance
Tzeentch: +3 LD for Psykic tests, Re-Roll Saves of 1
Nurgle: Slow and Purposefull, Shrouded, Defensive Grenades
Slaanesh: Rending, Move thru Cover, +3” to run distance for infantry, +6 “to run distance for cavalry (only if the whole unit is cavalry), +3” Flat out for chariots

Daemonic Instability:
Units with this USR may not be joined by units without this USR. Unit passes all Fear, Pinning and Moral tests. If a Unit with this USR looses in Close Combat, it must test for Instability on 2D6.
If the test is failed, the Unit takes wounds equal to the difference between its LD value and the roll.
If you roll Double 1, all wounds lost in this combat are restored. Place lost models back on the table
If you roll Double 6, the whole unit is removed from play.

Warlord Table:
War Lord Table:
1) Warlord gains Instant Death USR
2) Warlord and his unit gain Hatred (Everything) USR
3) As long as the War Lord is alive, your opponent test for Fear at -1 LD
4) As Long as the War Lord is alive, units within 12” of the War Lord may re-roll Daemonic Instability
5) As long as the War Lord is alive, you may re-roll results on the Warp Storm Table
6) Units with the Daemon USR may Deep Strike within 6” of the War Lord without scatter.

Warp Storm Table:
The Warp Storm Table is only used when Chaos Daemons are your Primary Detachment. Roll on the Warp Storm Table at the beginning of the Daemon Players Shooting Phase
2) The Storm is receding: All units with the Daemonic Instability USR (Friend and Foe) immediately test for Daemonic Instability
3) Punishment of the Gods: A random character model with Daemonic Instability (Friend or Foe) immediately tests for Daemonic Instability on 3D6. Wounds suffered in this manner can only be allocated to that model.
4) Warp Quake: All models with the Daemon USR suffer a -1 penalty to their saves until the next roll on this chart (friend or foe)
5) Storm of Fire: Roll a D6 for every unit with the Daemon of Nurgle USR or Mark of Nurgle or enemy unit that is not locked in combat. On a roll of 6, place a large blast marker on one of the models in the unit. Scatter 2D6. All models under the template suffer a S4 AP5 Ignore Cover, Pinning hit ).
6) Glorious Rot: Roll a D6 for every unit with the Daemon of Tzeentch or Mark of Tzeentch or enemy unit not locked in combat. On a roll of a 6, the unit suffers D6 S4 AP3 Poison (4+) hits. Vehicles are hit on Side Armor.
7) Calm Warp: Nothing happens
8) The Dark Prince Thirsts: Roll a D6 for every unit with the Daemon of Khorne USR or Mark of Khorne or enemy unit that is not locked in combat. On a roll of 6, the unit suffers D6 S6 AP- Ignore Cover, Rending hits.
9) Khornes Rage: Roll a D6 for every unit with the Daemon of Slaanesh USR or Mark of Slaanesh or enemy unit that is not locked in combat. On a roll of 6, center a small blast marker on a model of your choice in the unit and scatter 2D6. Models under the blast template suffer a S8 AP 3 Pinning hit.
10) Warp Flood: All units with the Daemon USR gain +1 to all saving throws until the next roll on the Warp Storm Table (friend or foe)
11) Daemonic Possesion: A random enemy non-vehicle .Psyker that is not a daemon must pass a Leadership test on 3D6. If the test is failed, the Psyker is removed from play. Place a Herald of a god of your choice within 6" of the removed model. The Herald does not receive any upgrades.
12) Blessing of the Warp: A new unit of 2D6+3 Bloodletters, Pink Horrors, Daemonetts or Plaguebearers (your choice) arrives via deep strike.

All Daemons have a 6+ Armor Save. Some daemons (for example Bloodthirster have a 3+)
Bloodthirster lost EW
Skulltaker has EW and 3+ Armor
Lord Of Change is Level 2 Psyker and Flying FMC
11-15 Pink Horrors generate 2 Warp Points, 16-20 generate 3
Fateweaver has a 4++, Level 4 Psyker. He knows all Tzeentch powers. Right Head knows one power from Pyromancy and Divination, Left Head knows one power from Telepathy and Pyromancy. Declare which head you want to use at the beginning of each turn. May re-roll a single D6 each phase.
Blue Scribes are not Psykers, but generate one power each turn from the main rule book. They can use that power without rolling a psykic test.
The Changeling may exchange any of his stats with an enemy non-vehicle model stat in base contact (WS, S, W, I, A) until the end of the turn
Great Unclean One is Psyker Level 1, Biomancy and Nurgle
Beasts of Nurgle can charge in the opponents turn.
Ku'Gath can regenerate wounds on Nurgling Swarms
Epi only effects Daemons of Nurgle within 6" and tally works based on unsaved wounds caused by Daemons of Nurgle:
7+: +1 Strength
14+: +1 Toughness
21+: 2+ poison
28+: 4+ Feel No Pain
Keeper of Secrets has Prefered Enemy Eldar and Dark Eldar. Psyker Level 1, Telepathy and Slaanesh
The Mask re-rolls all failed saves. It has multiple different dances
There are Chaos Furies
Flamers of Tzeench: If they caused a wound, take a test every turn for that unit. If the test is failed, you take D3 wounds, if you pass the test, you gain FNP (6+)

Skull Cannon: If you assault a unit that has been hit by a shot from the Skull Cannon, you suffer no initiative penalty for assaulting thru difficult terrain.

Axe of Khorne: Instant Death on a roll of 6 to wound.
Mutated Warpknife (Tzeentch): If it kills a enemy Character or MC, that model is turned into a Chaos Spawn on a roll of 2+
Warp Poisoning: If a Character or MC looses its last wound due to a Close Combat attack from the Staff of Change, all units within D6 inches (friend and foe) suffer D6 hits at S5 AP -
Mace of Disease: Models that suffer an unsaved wound from this weapon must pass a Toughness Test or suffer an additional wound. No saves of any kind can be taken to prevent this additional wound.

Many Characters cannot buy equipment, but can buy Minor, Major and Legendary enhancements for a certain point cost. These are randomly determined at the same time as Warlord Traits are rolled. You may have the same enhancements more than once on each character, but the random result can only be applied once to each character. Re-roll doubles. Rolls can be exchanged for special weapons.

Minor Boons:
Result 0: (May replace roll on the chart)
Magical Weapon: Etherknife (AP2, Mastercrafted, Specialist Weapon)
Daemon of Khorne may take an Axe of Khorne instead
Daemon of Tzeench may take a Staff of Change instead
Daemon of Nurgle mau take a Mace of Disease instead
Daemon of Slaanesh may take a Ghost Sword(?) instead


Daemon Princes:
Skarbrand and Bloodthirster make Khorne DP Heavy Support
Fateweaver and Lord of Change make Tzeentch DP Heavy Support
Ku'Gath and Great Unclean One make DP of Nurgle Heavy Support
Keeper of Secrets makes DP of Slaanesh Heavy Support

DP costs 145 pts
Khorne +15 pts
Tzeentch +25 pts
Nurgle +15 pts
Slaanesh +10 pts
Daemonic Flight 40 pts
May take up to 50 points of gifts
none khorne DPs can buy Psyker levels up to level 3 at 25pts/lvl

Heralds may still be taken 2 per HQ slot. Every Herald adds a Boon to the unit he joins.

Icons can improve certain effects. Instruments can "summon" reserves or modify the result of the Warp Storm Table.


Old Post

Our best rumour source Hastings said that we will see Codex and armybook for Daemons of Chaos February latest, so it is time to collect some rumours:
Harry wrote:Daemons of Chaos:

I know we have only just had a wave of Daemons but now we have this from hastings:

Release Date:

"The daemon rules should be taken as a stepping stone to the updated book (much like the wd vc terrorgheist article) next 4 books (for both systems are all chaos (in one form or another) and will hit within 4-5 months for all of them". (Hastings).
To clarify....Books: CSM, WoC, DoC, Chaos Daemons

All will be realeased within 4-5 months of the CSM codex hitting (sep afaik) (Hastings)

So we are talking february at the latest?

Author:
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Rules:
Unknown ... Beyond those suggested by the rules booklet in the recent WD

Models:

All 4 greater Deamons will get plastic kits (with head/weapon options plus wfb/40k specific bits on sprues) and that there will be "resin conversion packs" to make "named greater Deamons". (Hastings) No idea of timescales on this. I am not expecting them to arrive together Or with this wave. (Harry)
Jes Goodwin is rumoured to be doing the Bloodthirster. (BRING IT ON! ) No timescale for this. (NatTreehouse)

75hastings69 wrote:By feb next year you'll have CSM, WoC, DA, DoC, CD (chaos daemons 40k codex before anyone starts with chaos dwarf crap!).

Obviously the 2 daemon books will be in one month sharing model releases

Harry wrote:Well, what I heard ... was two waves of models AND two 'waves' of Greater Daemons. In other words the Greater Daemons would be coming in two pairs.... which makes sense..... not many of us would be able to crash for all four in the same month! However ... until hastings posted I had heard nothing about a book .... for either system.

Stickmonkey wrote:The models I've had a lot of rumors on are:

Khorne chariot, two bloodcrushers pulling a wagon with herald option or some fire belching thing. Large base

Tzentch chariot, pulled by screamers, with horrors riding, but I've also heard it has a large flamer rider too. Large base

Nurgle palanquin, nurglings, daemon prince base, fat plague bearer.

4 GD with variants for named daemons and swappable options, most rumors point to resin packs, but I've heard wind its all in the plastic kits lately. I'd lean towards Harry's news, but I hope for all in one myself. I have heard that these may be moving to the larger base now, if so, they will be huge. One can hope, but I don't have a lot of confidence in this bit.

Furies (no dual kit options I've heard of.) in plastic.

Plastic fiends were being worked on at one point, but I haven't heard anything about them recently.

New elite daemon engine. 40k Dreadnought sized. Lots of options. Quasi-God specific bits like the soulgrinder. Supposedly unique to daemons not the same as this new unit for chaos space marines.
(...)
The list has been largely debunked by Hastings in the 40k thread. So I would not be sure, and my sources say furies are a single use box of 5. (however, the VC horrors kit also was told to me to be a single use kit...I think its pretty much a good example of how a dual kit furies might be.)

Both Khorne and Tzentch kits have been describe to me to build multiple units, similar to the slaaneshi chariot building 3 different models...albiet one which needs 2 boxes. So maybe not as obvious...
Avian wrote:Did anyone actually say anything to you about what exactly those other units were?

See original post.
Big khorn flame belcher thing
Tzeentch Larger flamer instead of horrors.
Sounded like more ranged options for the daemons.

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Harry wrote:You seem to have named everything not done yet ...except Hounds of Khorne .... did you forget those?

Stickmonkey wrote:I asked and the answer has just been they are staying finecast for now. No plans for them or beasts of nurgle in plastic so far as I know... I'd love some plastic khorne dogs...they have been a staple in my daemons since day one, but assembling and painting more metal or finecast ones isn't appealling.

There has been some chatter on a demonic terrain piece, but I'm putting it down to wishlisting for now, nothing solid. Portal? meh. Shrine? meh.

I got to see the Ku'gath designs recently. Pretty Ace. The lab is wild, with nurgling assistants. I'm looking forward to seeing it translated to a model.

No more exalted chariots...at least not that I've heard of.

I did see a design for a big unaligned chaos beast of some kind. Looked like a oversized bear with a toothy maw instead of a head. No idea if it ever went on to be a model. Probably daemon prince sized. Design had a bloodletter drawn next to it which may have been half it's height.

I'm sure there is much more that could be coming. Can't imagine a new codex without a handful or more of new units.

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This is pretty exciting even if it is a ways off.

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Daemons need a few more units to make them interesting, but preferably not a load of God-specific chariots. More Daemon engines methinks.

A bit more wargear for Heralds in the Codex wouldn't go amiss either.

Totally up for plastic Greater Daemons though

   
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Hmm would be interesting to see what the other chariots will look like, though I dont like alot of the new plastic daemons models so Id say its mainly the rules Im interested in.

New Greater Daemons would certainly be good, the current ones are rather dated.

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Chaos Daemons- Approx 5000pts
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 Xeriapt wrote:
Hmm would be interesting to see what the other chariots will look like, though I dont like alot of the new plastic daemons models so Id say its mainly the rules Im interested in.

New Greater Daemons would certainly be good, the current ones are rather dated.


Lord of Change has aged rather well IMHO, but yes, the other three not so much.

   
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There are about a dozen other army releases I'd rather see first, but at least this is good news for the people who do care.



 
   
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I'd love see some more undivided daemons rather than just furies

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One thing puts me off, Why would they stick all the chaos stuff together? Daemons straight after chaos marines? I'm sorry Hastings, but this one seems a little off, your normally quite good but this time i don't think this is right.

We have too many people yelling Dark angles Tau and Eldar for me to take this straight at all.

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I don't mind the chariots, there are options for them as is but people have to more or less convert for them currently. I'm sort of interested in the greater daemons. Sort of hoping for a cooler KoS, though the LoC will probably be pretty nice as well.

The engines sort of interest me as well. I'm sort of hoping for something for each god. A swift killy machine for Slaanesh, plain smashy for Khorne, shooty for Tzeentch and a mobile bunker for Nurgle.

   
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 Flashman wrote:
 Xeriapt wrote:
Hmm would be interesting to see what the other chariots will look like, though I dont like alot of the new plastic daemons models so Id say its mainly the rules Im interested in.

New Greater Daemons would certainly be good, the current ones are rather dated.


Lord of Change has aged rather well IMHO, but yes, the other three not so much.


Agreed, the old LoC looks far better than the fateweaver model less than half it's age.

I have high hopes for a Kali/Shiva based cenobite styled KoS... in a similar vein to the Forgeworld perhaps?



 
   
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New model are always nice. But honestly I could careless about the models. All I want is new rules, and adjusted points costs. Oh, and writer who gives a d*mn about daemons!

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I agree, moar new rules! lol

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Chaos Daemons- Approx 5000pts
Slaanesh Daemons- 1500pts, in progress
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Certainly sounds interesting. The range really needs a fresh touch if im to get into it again, but with the new ally rules who knows...

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Below is the list of Codices from the last 2 years along with their release dates. That's 3 books releases (I don't count Sisters because there were no new models - not even a Finecast re-release) in 2 years. The list below is why I'm skeptical of seeing 3 books in the next 5 months or so (Chaos Space Marines, Chaos Daemons, and Dark Angels).
There also seems to be evidence that Tau and Eldar are sometime next year also. That release schedule would equal 5 codices in the next ~ 16 months. In order to find 5 codex releases you have to go back to January 2010 (Tyranids - January 2010, Blood Angels - April 2010) which is 32 months.

November 2010: Dark Eldar
April 2011: Grey Knights
November 2011: Necrons

I don't doubt that people have heard solid rumors, seem models, or anything. I unfortunately doubt that Games Workshop will follow through with an aggressive release schedule even if they currently have it planned. They have consistently demonstrated an inability to support their own lines. I'm not talking about a single army not receiving a new book either. For example, here was a 7 month gap between the first codex release of 5th Edition (Space Marines - October 2008) and the second codex (Imperial Guard - May 2009). Another example, there was an 8 month gap between WFB 8th edition (July 2010) and the the release of the first new Army Book (Orcs & Goblins - March 2011).

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 Lake wrote:
I'd love see some more undivided daemons rather than just furies

like greater daemons of chaos undivided?

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 Ledabot wrote:
One thing puts me off, Why would they stick all the chaos stuff together? Daemons straight after chaos marines? I'm sorry Hastings, but this one seems a little off, your normally quite good but this time i don't think this is right.

We have too many people yelling Dark angles Tau and Eldar for me to take this straight at all.



Warriors of Chaos have been rumored for Fall for nearly a year. Daemons are a joint release, for 40k and Fantasy, so it doesn't really mean that's taking a 40k release slot, it could be a month after another 40k release. Besides if the rumors are true and they are stepping up the release schedule, the old paradigm no longer applies.

 Deathwolf wrote:
Below is the list of Codices from the last 2 years along with their release dates. That's 3 books releases (I don't count Sisters because there were no new models - not even a Finecast re-release) in 2 years. The list below is why I'm skeptical of seeing 3 books in the next 5 months or so (Chaos Space Marines, Chaos Daemons, and Dark Angels).
There also seems to be evidence that Tau and Eldar are sometime next year also. That release schedule would equal 5 codices in the next ~ 16 months. In order to find 5 codex releases you have to go back to January 2010 (Tyranids - January 2010, Blood Angels - April 2010) which is 32 months.

November 2010: Dark Eldar
April 2011: Grey Knights
November 2011: Necrons

I don't doubt that people have heard solid rumors, seem models, or anything. I unfortunately doubt that Games Workshop will follow through with an aggressive release schedule even if they currently have it planned. They have consistently demonstrated an inability to support their own lines. I'm not talking about a single army not receiving a new book either. For example, here was a 7 month gap between the first codex release of 5th Edition (Space Marines - October 2008) and the second codex (Imperial Guard - May 2009). Another example, there was an 8 month gap between WFB 8th edition (July 2010) and the the release of the first new Army Book (Orcs & Goblins - March 2011).


And how many waves did we get along with those codex releases? Space Wolves, Tyranids, Daemons, Space Marines, Flyers just on the 40k side.

The main reason we can expect releases to come quicker, and with full models lines is directly related to GW lawsuit against Chapterhouse. They can no longer sit by and hold off kits, because the 3rd party will fill that void, and this is forcing them now to have every codex unit accompanied by a model release. I think what we can expect to see in the coming months is releases of completed kits and codexes that have been held back from release.

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 TyraelVladinhurst wrote:
 Lake wrote:
I'd love see some more undivided daemons rather than just furies

like greater daemons of chaos undivided?


lol! Well played. I can agree with Lake though. I'd love to see some "infantry style" undivided daemons, or even some centaur-type daemons for chaos undivided. Furies are intended to be a sort of scavenger daemon, but I think that theme could work for infantry or cavalry-esque daemons.
   
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 Starfarer wrote:
Warriors of Chaos have been rumored for Fall for nearly a year. Daemons are a joint release, for 40k and Fantasy, so it doesn't really mean that's taking a 40k release slot, it could be a month after another 40k release. Besides if the rumors are true and they are stepping up the release schedule, the old paradigm no longer applies.


Yeah, ordinary I'd be highly skeptical of a particularly fast release schedule, but I'm willing to believe CD/DoC could be a special case. Heck, GW may simply be considering it a WFB "slot" with a 40K stowaway.

Edit: For selfish reasons, I'm hoping we see CD soon. But I also hope it's not too long of a wait for the Tau and Eldar players. They certainly deserve new books.

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i know this is a thread necro but there is more info on daemons as of late:

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2013/01/40k-rumors-chaos-daemon-whispers.html

seems a new codex may not happen at all, just new models

   
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Incoming Chaos Daemon Wave:

It is believed to be a Q1 release. There is conflicting chatter as to whether the Codex is coming as well, or whether it is a miniatures-only wave with White Dwarf rules like we say in Q4-12.

Miniatures:

BloodThirster
Great Unclean One,
New Nurgle "jetbikes" - Described as GIANT FLIES with Plaguebearer Riders!!!
Khornate Chariot with dual-build options.
-Option 1: Transport (holds a big squad of daemons, opened top)
-Option 2: Cannon Variant (autocannon equivalent blast template, medium range)

~More as we get it. Nurgle flying cav sounds totally cool! This does sound like its is roughly along wiht lines of the last Chaos Daemons wave. It has a new cav unit, a chariot to use those new 40k chariot rules, and a couple of new Majors thrown in for good measure. This is a good thing. The current GW Major Daemons are ancient and kind of embarrassing by modern production standards.


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Releasing the chariots is a fantastic thing. It always bugged me that there was the this massive gap in the HQ section of the daemons (no generic Herald models, no Chariot models).

The only things that could fill these roles were special char models, or scratchbuilds/kit bashes.

Having proper kits is a long time coming.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Releasing the chariots is a fantastic thing. It always bugged me that there was the this massive gap in the HQ section of the daemons (no generic Herald models, no Chariot models).

The only things that could fill these roles were special char models, or scratchbuilds/kit bashes.

Having proper kits is a long time coming.


Agreed, the Khorne Chariot (if it's happening) would be a nice addition to the range.

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 Flashman wrote:
No GW purchases since August, but plastic Greater Daemons would severely test me. Please be rubbish!


Think ill be in same boat as you, not purchased anything new for ages.

Would have to get a bloodthirster if it was good.

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