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Also all the names are actual names of people as well as being companies including Messershmitt, Dornier - so yeah it is salvagable and you can also do what they did with Cathay and say some of the old lore is the foolish rumours that western barbarians knew - so Emperor Wu is just another name for the Celestial Dragon Emperor but scholars of the Empire thought he was a specific Emperor.

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 Mr Morden wrote:
Also all the names are actual names of people as well as being companies including Messershmitt, Dornier - so yeah it is salvagable and you can also do what they did with Cathay and say some of the old lore is the foolish rumours that western barbarians knew - so Emperor Wu is just another name for the Celestial Dragon Emperor but scholars of the Empire thought he was a specific Emperor.


Yes, the problem wasn't the names individually, it was the idea of one person being named all of those things - but based on what others are saying that doesn't seem to be the case. The suicide in the bucket of piss thing was also pretty bad (but again seems to not be the case, though the actual story isn't entirely great either).

In any case, GW has made more than enough retcons across its product lines that erased past lore from history. They could very easily make Nippon a thing and just never use any of those names or mention ritual suicide in buckets of water, etc. and then its effectively a non-issue anyway. How relevant are Obi-wan Sherlock Closeau or Illiyan Nastase to modern 40k, for example? If GW don't mention those things then effectively they no longer exist, regardless of the tendency of fans and wikis to treat everything ever published as being canon material.

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The bear stuff in Kislev is a little much.

Do you find it... unbearable?


I would have thought overbearing, but that's just me.


Its just the bare necessities of life....not that the cold bothers them anyway.
That was bearly a decent pun.

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chaos0xomega wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
Also all the names are actual names of people as well as being companies including Messershmitt, Dornier - so yeah it is salvagable and you can also do what they did with Cathay and say some of the old lore is the foolish rumours that western barbarians knew - so Emperor Wu is just another name for the Celestial Dragon Emperor but scholars of the Empire thought he was a specific Emperor.


Yes, the problem wasn't the names individually, it was the idea of one person being named all of those things - but based on what others are saying that doesn't seem to be the case. The suicide in the bucket of piss thing was also pretty bad (but again seems to not be the case, though the actual story isn't entirely great either).

In any case, GW has made more than enough retcons across its product lines that erased past lore from history. They could very easily make Nippon a thing and just never use any of those names or mention ritual suicide in buckets of water, etc. and then its effectively a non-issue anyway. How relevant are Obi-wan Sherlock Closeau or Illiyan Nastase to modern 40k, for example? If GW don't mention those things then effectively they no longer exist, regardless of the tendency of fans and wikis to treat everything ever published as being canon material.


To be fair to us fans, lore nerds and Lex/Wiki editors - GW and their partners C7 and CA have been digging up and reusing really really old lore so Gods of Law, Life Elementals etc....Geneveive is now in Age of Sigmar - unless they do actually change specific things to the "new" version its still possible to suddenly emerge - they even referenced Pygymies in Lizardmen Army books upto and including 8th ed....

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Did prolog.
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How do you confederate?

Sees closest i get is -3 and i cant improve it or add anything. If i threaten its war deck

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AngryAngel80 wrote:
I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "


 Eonfuzz wrote:


I would much rather everyone have a half ass than no ass.


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 Argive wrote:
Did prolog.
Started as cathay.

How do you confederate?

Sees closest i get is -3 and i cant improve it or add anything. If i threaten its war deck
This is still the Old World thread. You may want to take this to the Video Game forum which has a Total Warhammer thread going on.
   
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Did someone mention the Giant Pygmies of Ind?

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 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
 Argive wrote:
Did prolog.
Started as cathay.

How do you confederate?

Sees closest i get is -3 and i cant improve it or add anything. If i threaten its war deck
This is still the Old World thread. You may want to take this to the Video Game forum which has a Total Warhammer thread going on.

Ha! Thats where i though i was posting. Oops

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AngryAngel80 wrote:
I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "


 Eonfuzz wrote:


I would much rather everyone have a half ass than no ass.


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 triplegrim wrote:
Faeit 212 aka Naftka has some rumors of the Old World. Seems it'll be based on 7th edition mostly.

https://natfka.blogspot.com/2021/12/updated-rumor-1109-compilation-40k.html?m=1

'We will see a preview for Warhammer The Old World at the beginningw of next Year, this one will be bigger than those we saw in the past and since the Game was the first Time announced in November 2019.

Models to be shown mid 2022

This preview will be a bit more precise about the Game.

The Ruleset for Warhammer the Old World will be 7th Edition to the core,
but with smaller influences from the 5th, 6th and 8th Editions. They
understood that the 8th was too big in the sense of Army building, even for
GW Games.
'


So, now that other parts of the large rumor leak was proven correct, such as Squats (today) and eldar and csm, this makes the Old World rumors more likely I suppose.



From the large 2021 leak, and not posted in this thread earlier that I can see:

"New Edition Timelines
They're also internal changes for Warhammer the Old World. The main Studio
is more involved in this project, which was the idea of the oldest Studio
Members.

Also the established release shedule for GW in the last years is mostly
obsolete thanks to Covid: They can't no longer bring new Editions every
three years.

via a solid source on Faeit 212 Parts 1 and 2
I got informations about those "Compendium" Books for Warhammer The Old
Word.

As earlier said, it will be three Books.

"Good Factions Book"
- Empire
- Bretonnia
- Dwarfs
- High Elves

"Bad Factions Book"
-Warriors of Chaos
- Beasts of Chaos
- Dark Elves
- Skaven
- Orcs and Goblins
- Vampire Counts

"Neutral Factions Book"
- Wood Elves
- Khemri
- Ogre KIngdoms
- Lizardmen


Those Compendiums will timeline-wise set in the old WHFB Timeline include Rules for all Units from 8th Edition Army Books before the End Times was released. Characters inclusive but no Nagash or Glottkin etcetera.

New Rulebook, Army Books and Expansions will then set in the new Timeline of Warhammer The Old World.


-this was our source in the comment sections from Part 1! So always a good place to look and join in on the conversations.
The Books will also include rules for all Characters and Units before The End Times was released and set in the old Timeline of WHFB.
"

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 triplegrim wrote:
 triplegrim wrote:
Faeit 212 aka Naftka has some rumors of the Old World. Seems it'll be based on 7th edition mostly.

https://natfka.blogspot.com/2021/12/updated-rumor-1109-compilation-40k.html?m=1

'We will see a preview for Warhammer The Old World at the beginningw of next Year, this one will be bigger than those we saw in the past and since the Game was the first Time announced in November 2019.


I don't recall any sets of rumours that had The Old World stuff alongside Squats? That's a compilation of several different rumours.

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 Mentlegen324 wrote:
 triplegrim wrote:
 triplegrim wrote:
Faeit 212 aka Naftka has some rumors of the Old World. Seems it'll be based on 7th edition mostly.

https://natfka.blogspot.com/2021/12/updated-rumor-1109-compilation-40k.html?m=1

'We will see a preview for Warhammer The Old World at the beginningw of next Year, this one will be bigger than those we saw in the past and since the Game was the first Time announced in November 2019.


I don't recall any sets of rumours that had The Old World stuff alongside Squats? That's a complication of several different rumours.


Blast. I see what you mean, and you are probably more than correct too. Different rumor sets were compiled together in a post at a rumor site is all.

Sorry for getting excited.

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Interesting. 7th Edition rules were great as it solved a few of the problem that were present in 6th edition. The only thing that hurt 7th edition was a bunch of ridiculously broken army books.

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 Commodus Leitdorf wrote:
Interesting. 7th Edition rules were great as it solved a few of the problem that were present in 6th edition. The only thing that hurt 7th edition was a bunch of ridiculously broken army books.


Swarms crumbling like undead, battle standard bearer bonus on top of the standard Bearer bonus, fighting two combats in the same turn if you timed it right. I'd say it broke every bit as much as it fixed.

I think there's a couple more that I really dislike that they added as well, but I'm short on time right now.

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7th ed was the edition in which I could accurately predict how, when and why I was going to lose before we even set up our armies. That's a game I really don't need back.

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 Geifer wrote:
7th ed was the edition in which I could accurately predict how, when and why I was going to lose before we even set up our armies. That's a game I really don't need back.


How much of that was core rules and how much army books?

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So... 7th edition opinions aside, what are the odds this is pic related to a 'Brutal Deluxe' product and nothing at all with the Old World?

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
 Geifer wrote:
7th ed was the edition in which I could accurately predict how, when and why I was going to lose before we even set up our armies. That's a game I really don't need back.


How much of that was core rules and how much army books?


The losing part is the army book, because Tomb Kings. The predictability is all in the core rules now, specifically a combination of limited maneuverability, set charge ranges and and inability to strike back if your first rank evaporates. A look at the enemy army and a bit of math is all it takes. 7th ed was not a good game. More of a math exercise, and pretty much as boring.

Voss wrote:
So... 7th edition opinions aside, what are the odds this is pic related to a 'Brutal Deluxe' product and nothing at all with the Old World?


Why would they meet in London instead of Nottingham? Why would GW bring in potentially expensive consultants instead of relying on their own employees?

This has nothing to do with The Old World.

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In all seriousness the line up seems a little too convenient to be coincidence.

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That photo is pretty bonkers, took me a moment to de-age each dude to White Dwarf times Didn't 1-2 of these guys break up with GW pretty definitively at some point?
 Geifer wrote:
7th ed was the edition in which I could accurately predict how, when and why I was going to lose before we even set up our armies. That's a game I really don't need back.
QFT. And towards the end of 8E I could predict the composition of most tournament armies based only on faction, as the meta had thoroughly congealed.

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Alessio Cavatore is still the managing director of River Horse, who also list Andy Chambers as a games designer and author consultant (along with Rick Priestley and Matthew Ward).

Said company produced the MLP RPG. So, I am taking it to be the confirmation of a My Little Pony tabletop strategy game

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I thought ponies were over and now its owl door knockers or talking centaurs or something

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 Overread wrote:
I thought ponies were over and now its owl door knockers or talking centaurs or something


No, creepy NEET incels will never give up on ponies. Cloppers gotta clop, after all...

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 Geifer wrote:

Why would they meet in London instead of Nottingham? Why would GW bring in potentially expensive consultants instead of relying on their own employees?


GW do quite a bit of work in London, especially if it is convenient to those involved.
All of the Daemonhunter videos (Andy Serkis etc) were filmed in London; travel between the two can be surprisingly arduous at times, especially if you're not located near to Kings Cross/St Pancras... Also, last week the UK saw the worst rail strikes in decades. It may simply be a matter that these four live nearer to London than Nottingham and decided to convene there than travel north.
   
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 Geifer wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
 Geifer wrote:
7th ed was the edition in which I could accurately predict how, when and why I was going to lose before we even set up our armies. That's a game I really don't need back.


How much of that was core rules and how much army books?


The losing part is the army book, because Tomb Kings. The predictability is all in the core rules now, specifically a combination of limited maneuverability, set charge ranges and and inability to strike back if your first rank evaporates. A look at the enemy army and a bit of math is all it takes. 7th ed was not a good game. More of a math exercise, and pretty much as boring.

Voss wrote:
So... 7th edition opinions aside, what are the odds this is pic related to a 'Brutal Deluxe' product and nothing at all with the Old World?


Why would they meet in London instead of Nottingham? Why would GW bring in potentially expensive consultants instead of relying on their own employees?

This has nothing to do with The Old World.


Right, that's my point. Its got nothing to do with the news/rumor thread its in, and now for some reason people are invoking incels and being generally creepy.

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 Just Tony wrote:
 Overread wrote:
I thought ponies were over and now its owl door knockers or talking centaurs or something


No, creepy NEET incels will never give up on ponies. Cloppers gotta clop, after all...


I feel like I understand not even half of that. Darn people inventing new words!

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 Geifer wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
 Geifer wrote:
7th ed was the edition in which I could accurately predict how, when and why I was going to lose before we even set up our armies. That's a game I really don't need back.


How much of that was core rules and how much army books?


The losing part is the army book, because Tomb Kings. The predictability is all in the core rules now, specifically a combination of limited maneuverability, set charge ranges and and inability to strike back if your first rank evaporates. A look at the enemy army and a bit of math is all it takes. 7th ed was not a good game. More of a math exercise, and pretty much as boring.

Voss wrote:
So... 7th edition opinions aside, what are the odds this is pic related to a 'Brutal Deluxe' product and nothing at all with the Old World?


Why would they meet in London instead of Nottingham? Why would GW bring in potentially expensive consultants instead of relying on their own employees?

This has nothing to do with The Old World.


Wjy did they bring Ward back to work on stuff when they have their own employees? Not saying anything is conclusive but I won't dismiss the possibility out of hand.


I'm willing to bet that the same people who are naysaying this recent little post are the same people that were nay saying everything about scale, Square bases, setting, and everything else that was disproven...

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Well in theory their other employees would be working on other existing game projects. Taking on a new major game might well mean GW has to hire more staff to fit it into the system.

They might also hire on temp staff or consultant staff or it might even just be more of a marketing move to have some of the classic staff working on it.

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