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This is the army I've come up with to play, I'm looking for any ideas for improvement or flaws in the army.

Thanks in advance.

HQ
Librarian Epistolary                 115
Force Weapon                         0
Psychic Hood                          0
Plasma Pistol                           15
Artificier Armour                    20
Jump Pack                               20
Vortex of Doom                      10
Fury of the Ancients                9
                               Total         189

Librarian Epistolary                 115
Force Weapon                          0
Psychic Hood                           0
Plasma Pistol                            15
Artificier Armour                     20
Jump Pack                                20
Veil of Time                             10
Fear of the Darkness                15
                               Total          195
Elites
Dreadnought                            105
Lascannon                                20
Storm Bolter                             0
Close Combat Weapon             0
Venerable                                 20
Tank Hunter                             10
                               Total          155

Dreadnought                            105
Assault Cannon                        0
Storm Bolter                              0
Close Combat Weapon             0
                               Total          105

Dreadnought                            105
Assault Cannon                        0
Storm Bolter                             0
Close Combat Weapon             0
                               Total          105

Troops
Tactical Squad x5                     75
Sergeant                                    0
Bolter                                        0
Marines x4                                0
Bolter x3                                   0
Lascannon                                15
                               Total          90

Tactical Squad x5                     75
Sergeant                                    0
Bolter                                        0
Marines x4                                0
Bolter x3                                   0
Lascannon                                15
                               Total          90

Tactical Squad x5                     75
Sergeant                                    0
Bolter                                        0
Marines x4                                0
Bolter x2                                   0
Heavy Bolter                             5
Plasmagun                                10
Razorback                                70
Twin-linked Lascannon            20
                               Total          180

Tactical Squad x5                     75
Sergeant                                    0
Bolter                                        0
Marines x4                                0
Bolter x2                                   0
Heavy Bolter                            5
Plasmagun                                10
Razorback                                70
Twin-linked Lascannon            20
                               Total          180

Scout x5                                    65
Bolter x4                                    0
Heavy Bolter                             5
                               Total           70

Scout x5                                     65
Sniper Rifle x4                           20
Missile Launcher                        10
                               Total            95

Heavy Support
Predator Annihilator                   120
Twin-linked Lascannon              0
Side Sponsons-Lascannons        25
                               Total            145

Predator Destructor                    100
Autocannon                                0
Side Sponsons-HeavyBolters     10
                              Total             110

Vindicator                                   125
Demolisher Cannon                    0
Storm Bolter                                0
                               Total            125

Total Pts. 1834

I'm look at adding some basic items such as grenades to get it up to 1850 but this is the basic  idea of my army.
   
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Troubled By Non-Compliant Worlds






-plasma should never be given to hq's

-artificer armor is a waste as well

-what the lib's need is invulnerable saves, maybe a combat shield for the both of them

-dreads are fine but all should be given extra armor and/or smoke launchers

-all of your squads are small, dropping something to make them 6 strong would help

-pred ann's are better w/ hb sponsons to keep them moving

-everything else is fine just increase squad size and make the hq's cheaper dropping one would let you get alot more into this list

   
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Well, in hindsight I see your point about plasma and HQ's. No need to have it backfire on them causing unnecessary damage.

Invulnerable saves sounds better, wound saves on 2+ instead of 3+ really doesn't make a difference if it is a 1.

Guess I could either drop one of a predator or a vindicator to allow for a larger squad setup and maybe some extra additions to my units.
   
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The Hammer

IMHO:
Do not buy combat sheild for Epistolaries when upgrading their jump pack to a bike also costs ten points and gives them a 2+ invulnerable save instead of a 5+ invulnerable save. The plasmas are less about dealing damage to the Librarians than that they all ready have a psychic power that counts as their shot for that turn. Since you're running so many tanks and dreadnoughts all ready, I'd reccomend dumping the scouts and exchanging one lascannon tac-squad for a tllc Razorback. I'd also try to get Power of the Machine Spirit on that Vindicator, because that's a solid upgrade for it. That would leave you with 75+70-5+30-20= points after turning both your Predators into heavy bolter sponson Annihilators, and ditching the plasma pistols on the Librarians to upgrade their jump packs to bikes, or enough for a five man squad with a heavy bolter in an unupgraded razorback.

edit - and Fury/Fear for both Librarians seems best given the shootiness of your list - so there's another few points towards upgrading some heavy bolters to lascannon/buyign plasmas for your squads.


When soldiers think, it's called routing. 
   
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Rampaging Carnifex





I disagree and think the combat shield on the epistolary is great. The bike only gives a 2+ invul to shooting and only when you turbo boost.

However, terminator armor is in my opinion almost always a better buy for the epistolary (terminator honors and a 2+/5+ and the ability to take an always-deepstriking command squad for so few points os lovely).

I think your epistolaries are way too damn expensive buddy

A squad of missile launcher scouts is always a worse choice than tac squads with plas/las.

A squad of tac without a plasma is a poor life decision. It's just too good not to take.

I would take 2 destructors and give the vindicator power of the machine spirit with the saving.

If you're going to take a venerable with tankhunter give him the missile launcher (I think it's a poor choice compared to the other cheaper dreads but hey). I do see the point of dreads in your list as it gives you a crapload of armor.

If your dread has a CCW, he gets extra armor. always.

Yarr.

   
 
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