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Here's oen for Hilarity: Syrian government complains about violations of international law, and Turkey accuses US of building Terror Army, and threatens to attack US forces if not stopped.
Fate is in heaven, armor is on the chest, accomplishment is in the feet. - Nagao Kagetora
Aye the fact earlier they where claimed to be working with IS...
They watched the Kurds fight and die defending a key border town and even here seen patrolling and talking to militants on thr border fence.
Eridgon and others are let's be honest, Islamist. And there's likely a degree of conspirators working within Turkey or worked who sysmpasized with them.
Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all.
Co'tor Shas wrote: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42863531 Nice going Turkey. In a few years *everyone* who disagrees with Eurogondon will be arrested!
I like the part where opposing Imperialism made you an agent of Imperialism.
Fate is in heaven, armor is on the chest, accomplishment is in the feet. - Nagao Kagetora
I don't think Syria can be a threat to Israel after what happen to it. And very limited participation of Israel shows that these actions are more political than for the actual destruction of the army of the Assad.
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The Lost and Damned
Inquisition
Syria barely controls much of its own lands, most of the army is in a battered and war weary state after year of civil war and combat.
Who knows what state the Syrian air power is in now, there army will hardly be able to devote resources heavily to borders. They gotta hold a thousand small points to protect land they have.
It was Russia who turned the campaign not the Syrians who before the intervention where starting to loose the war.
Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all.
godardc wrote: Do you remember the beggining of all this ? So many years ago... How time flies !
And it is still on going
It began years ago with protests from Arab spring, when wiki leaks data exposed corruptions in Egypt, Tunisia etx.
Its effects are still present some 4-5 years later.
Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all.
godardc wrote: Do you remember the beggining of all this ? So many years ago... How time flies !
And it is still on going
Yep, because the "non-interventionists" didn't want to do anything when they were still a small and more manageable threat. And when the decision was finally made to do something, it was just half measures.
godardc wrote: Do you remember the beggining of all this ? So many years ago... How time flies !
And it is still on going
Yep, because the "non-interventionists" didn't want to do anything when they were still a small and more manageable threat. And when the decision was finally made to do something, it was just half measures.
I have the exact same feelings. Isn't it sad we had to wait for the Russian to do «our job» of world police ?
Yep... The slave markets in thr country, Isis and more make it certainly a improvement...
Gudaffi was bad, but it seems we broke a pretty gakky region alot more.
Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all.
Yep... The slave markets in thr country, Isis and more make it certainly a improvement...
Gudaffi was bad, but it seems we broke a pretty gakky region alot more.
We didn't break anything through our intervention in Libya. We didn't start the armed uprising against Gaddafi. People ignore that the fighting in Syria and Libya started due to people rising up against their own governments without western backing or instruction.
The Libyan civil war wouldn't have suddenly disappeared if NATO didn't take out Gaddafi's artillery and ground his planes, it just would have ground on even longer and ISIS would still have risen and gained ground. The failure in Libya was a failing in making a working government but that requires a lot more resources and manpower than western countries were prepared to commit, not to mention the question of whether such support would even have been welcome by the various groups who had fought the ground war against Gaddafi's government.
With the current isolationist (at least militarily) trend in quite a few western countries following Iraq and Afghanistan, committing the level of support and resources and, most critically, time to ensuing a unified Libya post-Gaddafi was untenable. Sending some planes to hit targets from carriers in the Mediterranean was easier to sell to the public than a full deployment of ground forces to try and hold yet another country together. And nothing short of that full deployment would have prevented ISIS from gaining ground in Libya, whether Gaddafi was still in power or not as he had lost control of his country and his people.
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The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me.
godardc wrote: Do you remember the beggining of all this ? So many years ago... How time flies !
And it is still on going
Yep, because the "non-interventionists" didn't want to do anything when they were still a small and more manageable threat. And when the decision was finally made to do something, it was just half measures.
I have the exact same feelings. Isn't it sad we had to wait for the Russian to do «our job» of world police ?
Many question if, why, and should that be 'our job' at all.
godardc wrote: Do you remember the beggining of all this ? So many years ago... How time flies !
And it is still on going
Yep, because the "non-interventionists" didn't want to do anything when they were still a small and more manageable threat. And when the decision was finally made to do something, it was just half measures.
I have the exact same feelings. Isn't it sad we had to wait for the Russian to do «our job» of world police ?
Many question if, why, and should that be 'our job' at all.
Honestly I enjoy watching geopolitics, so I do get entertainment out of watching the US world police. Taxes are annoying but I'm assuming the cheapness of goods in the US has something to do with how thoroughly the US promotes free trade and globalization abroad. Can't have cheap widgets without China, cheap clothing without SEAsia and cheap semi-conductors without Taiwan. Since I have no guarantee pulling out of Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia or Northern Syria will lower my taxes, I'll consider it a wash. The voluntary military is so small I rarely have to be confronted with body bags and honestly most Americans understand that these are foreign adventures that don't "protect our freedom" so the military/USGov has a vested interest in keeping casualties low for PR reasons back home.
If you want a reason why the US political elite, regardless of party, have no interest in pulling back. It feels good to be The Empire. It's unfathomable to permanently drawn down, empire is self perpetuating, it's like asking why the British Empire didn't try to step back in 1897. You'll find the US political elite truly believe that there's an altruistic motive beyond hegemony to justify their involvement in the cycle of violence and distrust. Just listen to the Nulands and Mattis's of the world. (I'm borrowing someone's point here):
“You guys want me to send troops everywhere,” Trump said, according to officials in the Situation Room meeting. “What’s the justification?”
...
“Sir, we’re doing it to prevent a bomb from going off in Times Square,” Mattis replied.
Faisal Shahzad, the naturalized American citizen who recently pled guilty after attempting to set off a car bomb in Times Square, was a troubled fellow
...
During his court hearing Shahzad said: “until the hour the U.S. pulls its forces from Iraq and Afghanistan, and stops the drone strikes in Somalia and Yemen and in Pakistan, and stops the occupation of Muslim lands, and stops killing the Muslims, and stops reporting the Muslims to its government, we will be attacking U.S.”
Well, something has to justify worlds biggest military budget...
Oh, and you told us we couldn't have an army anymore to do this sort of thing. If you want to reconsider, I promise we won't take back the land your army seized from us. Honest!
Fate is in heaven, armor is on the chest, accomplishment is in the feet. - Nagao Kagetora
That's one hell of a dangerous holiday resort. Poor Ivan.
We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
That's one hell of a dangerous holiday resort. Poor Ivan.
Yeah, that's certainly a high risk trip.
The Russians are legal allowed and backed by Assad, why would mercenary be needed?
Unless, they want to keep losses off thr book as it goes.
Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all.
Mordant 92nd 'Acid Dogs'
The Lost and Damned
Inquisition
