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Ok last night we had a double, me with a cousin with IG both sides and 2 friends with eldar.
Here is the question. One of the eldar players said that the dark reaper exarch weapon which is called tempest launcher
Can shoot 2 blasts str 4 ap 3 with reroll the to wounds and ignore covers. Is that how it works?
I haven't played against dark reapers till now in this edition and I think this is overpowered...
If it works in another way please do tell me. I don't have the eldar codex so I can check myself ATM.
It wiped with 2 shots a vet squad behind a wrecked chimera.

Yes, it works like that. His power Crack Shot adds the re-roll + ignore cover.

Yes it's a good combo.

That or taking Fast Shot and having a 2-shot missile launcher for sniping light vehicles.

So he shots 2 small blasts at BS 5 with the profile I mentioned and with ignore cover and reroll to wound?
And I saw that this unit with 6 models including the exarch costs something like 250 pts +- some...
Omg it's good. I don't know if there are better things to use in these slots. I guess there are cause I haven't seen people playing DRs
Or in any army list I ve seen here, but they are nasty. Against MEQ amies they are Killy unit.

You get for the points 4 dark reapers and an Exarch (if you take a full squad).

Still fragile. Very very expensive point wise.

The normal dark reapers don't have much anti-tank capability and don't ignore cover, though they are useful against marines in the open.

 avedominusnox wrote:
So he shots 2 small blasts at BS 5 with the profile I mentioned and with ignore cover and reroll to wound?
And I saw that this unit with 6 models including the exarch costs something like 250 pts +- some...
Omg it's good. I don't know if there are better things to use in these slots. I guess there are cause I haven't seen people playing DRs
Or in any army list I ve seen here, but they are nasty. Against MEQ amies they are Killy unit.

Yeah. What's strange is that most appear to consider them mediocre. I mean, they look pretty nasty to me.

EDIT: Ah, that might be why. Because its expensive as feth.

Ok listen to this. Let's say the cost 250 pts.
Yesterday before they die, on turn 4 cause they were in a ruin and you can't ignore all other enemy units to kill reapers only they shoot 3 times.
The important was that the exarch died last, so he shoot 3 times.
He wiped a vet squad who has lost its chimera round 1 due to war walker 1 squadron heavy 4 spam, and then the exarch killed a normal PIS unit and then he killed a ML HWT. So he alone killed something like more than 350 pts.
I guess there stil better things but against IG vets who stay out of transport protection they are awesome. A lot more now that the LR tanks are Nerfed.
Well my question is answered gents. Thanks a lot for your help!

If there is an exarch on the table space out your dudes to the full 2" tolerated for coherency. His blast will hit at most two guys.

Best advice I can give you.

I started to put Reapers back into my lists and while the Tempest launcher is fun and seems nasty.

A missile launcher which ignores jink and smoke can pop transports rather easily. (Specially those pesky Tau with their disruption pod thingy)

The vets died due to their wrecked transport and disembarkation so they were pretty close one to each other. So with two blasts and 4x2 str 4 ap 3 shots and some luck you can wipe a unit of carapace vets.

That is why you use the wrecked transport to block Line of Sight to your now disembarked vets.

The tempest launcher is barrage.

 DarbNilbirts wrote:
The tempest launcher is barrage.

well then no reduction in scatter if they are out of line of sight.

 DeathReaper wrote:
well then no reduction in scatter if they are out of line of sight.

Can you make it a bit more clear please?
It's still morning here so..

When barrage weapons fire at units out of los, they Don't subtract their bs from the scatter roll.

Although crack shot give you "ignores cover" and re roll to wound, it does not make the weapon "barrage". If he shot at you without having LOS, you got hosed. Its a str4 ap3 heavy2, blast. Nothing else..Been playing eldar for a while and I can say reapers are just too plain expensive.. They never survive long enough

huge_eldar wrote:
Although crack shot give you "ignores cover" and re roll to wound, it does not make the weapon "barrage". If he shot at you without having LOS, you got hosed. Its a str4 ap3 heavy2, blast. Nothing else..Been playing eldar for a while and I can say reapers are just too plain expensive.. They never survive long enough

Tempest Launchers are barrage weapons.

huge_eldar wrote:.Been playing eldar for a while...

Happyjew wrote: Tempest Launchers are barrage weapons.

Doh!

Reaper exarchs are pretty good. Their ablative wounds, however, are too expensive. Given the shift to mech in 5th it's not surprising that most people don't know what they can do.

Things to remember:
- The unit is 182-217+ points
- It is T3 1W and gets crushed in CC
- The weapon is 36" so the unit can be outranged
- They can't do squat to vehicles
- They compete with Wraithlords, Scatter walkers, heavy slot skimmers, and now T7 Artillery Batteries.

 BlueDagger wrote:
Things to remember:
- The unit is 182-217+ points
- It is T3 1W and gets crushed in CC
- The weapon is 36" so the unit can be outranged
- They can't do squat to vehicles
- They compete with Wraithlords, Scatter walkers, heavy slot skimmers, and now T7 Artillery Batteries.

Well with all these you've convinced me that they don't deserve to be in a main list.

 DeathReaper wrote:

 DarbNilbirts wrote:
The tempest launcher is barrage.

well then no reduction in scatter if they are out of line of sight.

Better position them well in that case, otherwise I'd just shoot that transport and stick the markers so they touch as many models as possible and claim the -5" from BS that way.


But yes, Dark Reapers are very expensive and there's a very large risk that your ablative wounds (i.e. normal aspect warriors) isn't going to do anything for 35pts/model. Typically the Exarch is great while the Reapers are worse than Devastators and we all know the internet hyperbole that non-SW Devastators have.