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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/23 07:18:04
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I already know the rules will still be IGOUGO and we will retain the same issues that the game always ends up having because apparently nobody in their writing department notices this.
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/23 07:20:31
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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Slayer-Fan123 wrote:I already know the rules will still be IGOUGO and we will retain the same issues that the game always ends up having because apparently nobody in their writing department notices this.
I love IGOUGO and I hope they'll never switch to AA. There's plenty of other games for that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/23 07:26:30
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Aenar wrote:Slayer-Fan123 wrote:I already know the rules will still be IGOUGO and we will retain the same issues that the game always ends up having because apparently nobody in their writing department notices this.
I love IGOUGO and I hope they'll never switch to AA. There's plenty of other games for that.
Because me playing for an hour while the opponent does nothing as I simply clear half their army is a much better way to do things, absolutely. It's not interactive, less realistic, and much easier to abuse. The only defense people make is "that's how it's always been" and that's a piss poor defense at this point.
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/23 07:36:32
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/23 07:37:05
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Not as Good as a Minion
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The problem is not which version of IGoUGo GW uses (alternating player turns, alternating phases, alternating units), or what interaction mechanic is used (reactions interrupt actions, alternating unit activation etc)
the problem is that they always want to mix things up for more social interaction, ending up with the worst of all worlds
if they would stick to one version (like alternating phases with one type of reaction system) and no future rules would change that, it won't be a big problem
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Harry, bring this ring to Narnia or the Sith will take the Enterprise |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/23 07:39:10
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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I hope that's fake just for how dreadful that symbol is. They're daft, but that daft?
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BlaxicanX wrote:A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/23 07:40:47
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Well not really surprising text if true. Of course it being so unsurprising makes it very easy to fake. New logo is bit harder to fake but hardly unsurmountable. There's also 1 non-gw like phrase there though not earthshattering
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/23 07:41:53
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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Eldarain wrote:I hope that's fake just for how dreadful that symbol is. They're daft, but that daft?
It's similar to the Kill Team one. The current 40K logo is too iconic for me, changing it would be a low blow. Not that the supposedly new one is awful, I'm just too attached to the current one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/23 07:42:21
Subject: Re:'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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If this is true that everything remains compatible pretty much nothing will change. IGOUGO and D6 are the main problems. Players need to alternate between each other in one turn, and D10/D12 dice are needed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/23 07:44:26
Subject: Re:'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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p5freak wrote:If this is true that everything remains compatible pretty much nothing will change. IGOUGO and D6 are the main problems. Players need to alternate between each other in one turn, and D10/ D12 dice are needed.
Even D8 would be a significant improvement over D6.
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/23 07:45:24
Subject: Re:'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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Maybe but "seismic shifts" in 40k are rare and anyone expecting 9th edition to be anymore then a cleanup was kidding themselves
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Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/23 07:48:29
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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Best case if there is a new edition is a revamp of the CP system, terrain and LoS. Vast majority of the system will remain the same.
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BlaxicanX wrote:A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/23 07:54:49
Subject: Re:'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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BrianDavion wrote:Maybe but "seismic shifts" in 40k are rare and anyone expecting 9th edition to be anymore then a cleanup was kidding themselves
Yeah. Good luck keeping codexes etc compatible with even aa let alone new dices and codexes staying compatible in 9th is about as certain as anything can be
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/23 08:11:33
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Powerful Ushbati
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If that picture is real... You know how you just got new codexes? Well, BUY THEM AGAIN! AHAHAHAHA. No.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/23 08:20:33
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Togusa wrote:If that picture is real...
You know how you just got new codexes? Well, BUY THEM AGAIN! AHAHAHAHA. No.
Eh new codexes would be coming anyway. New edition isn't required to that.
If you want game where you don't need to buy new books to replace old ones you are sooo in wrong game
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/23 08:21:36
Subject: Re:'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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If there is a new edition...anyone expecting seismic changes is in for a rude awakening. We've just entered "3rd Edition" the sequel.
As with their typical design processes, the next edition or two (or...five) will be tied to the same basic stat line/codices, etc. This essentially prevents major changes to most meaningful things. Remember, 7th edition used the same spine that 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th used. While there was a little room to move and adjust things, the codices will remain the codices - for quite some time.
Sadly I think this is going to be a huge issue moving forward unless they have discovered some sneaky way to get out from behind BS 2+, etc. They painted themselves into a serious corner by going to fixed values instead of the old WS/BS system which allowed much more room (weirdly they didn't use much of that that space in previous editions of the game).
Using old codices will also mean a lot of retro-reference material if they want to make substantial changes (points costs, abilities, etc.). It will not be a clean new edition, but rather a patchjob.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/23 08:32:33
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Togusa wrote:If that picture is real...
You know how you just got new codexes? Well, BUY THEM AGAIN! AHAHAHAHA. No.
Eventually, yes. But not immediately. Seems fine to me...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/23 08:32:47
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Cool, big preview while I'm working. But swabbing people takes precedence
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Looking for a Skaven Doomwheel banner to repair my Nurgle knights. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/23 08:37:59
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Binabik15 wrote:Cool, big preview while I'm working. But swabbing people takes precedence 
swab on, the only thing your bound to miss is the increasedeeerrrrrm i meant improved pricing scheme!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Umbros wrote: Togusa wrote:If that picture is real...
You know how you just got new codexes? Well, BUY THEM AGAIN! AHAHAHAHA. No.
Eventually, yes. But not immediately. Seems fine to me...
seems like they woke john the drunk intern up again and forced him to comply all their FAQ and erratas into one big doccument again?
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/23 08:52:23
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
The dark hollows of Kentucky
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Umbros wrote: Togusa wrote:If that picture is real...
You know how you just got new codexes? Well, BUY THEM AGAIN! AHAHAHAHA. No.
Eventually, yes. But not immediately. Seems fine to me...
Some armies need a new codex because what they currently have are trumped up Indexes.
But we have to wait until after the new edition drops before we get the new Forge World books?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/23 08:52:45
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Togusa wrote:If that picture is real...
You know how you just got new codexes? Well, BUY THEM AGAIN! AHAHAHAHA. No.
They literally did that with the Chaos Marine codex and Space Marine codex without a new edition, and they say that the existing codexes will stay.
Don't think this is a realistic whinge tbh.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/23 08:54:52
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Gadzilla666 wrote:Umbros wrote: Togusa wrote:If that picture is real...
You know how you just got new codexes? Well, BUY THEM AGAIN! AHAHAHAHA. No.
Eventually, yes. But not immediately. Seems fine to me...
Some armies need a new codex because what they currently have are trumped up Indexes.
But we have to wait until after the new edition drops before we get the new Forge World books?
he atleast they warned the FW writers this time AHEAD.
maybee we will get half working FW armies afterall...
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/23 08:55:51
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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The Phazer wrote: Togusa wrote:If that picture is real...
You know how you just got new codexes? Well, BUY THEM AGAIN! AHAHAHAHA. No.
They literally did that with the Chaos Marine codex and Space Marine codex without a new edition, and they say that the existing codexes will stay.
Don't think this is a realistic whinge tbh.
And only one was new.
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BlaxicanX wrote:A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/23 08:57:54
Subject: Re:'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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Curveball prediction:
40k TV show airing on HBO, written by D&D. Executive Producer Kathleen Kennedy.
Would produce legendary levels of salt.
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Nazi punks feth off |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/23 09:09:54
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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I think this thread in general has failed at keeping the expectaitions at reasonable levels  .
I want nothing less than Necron titans and at least one more Primarch in the pot (and why not Russ, as good as anyone, right. we need to build up even more annoyance for the Lion to wake up to)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/23 09:11:02
Subject: Re:'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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Nazi punks feth off |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/23 09:15:38
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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RogueSangre
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From the FAQ it sounds like they won’t be announcing the contents of the new starter set today which is a shame.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/23 09:16:53
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Thanks ChrisB  The stuff mentioned, Codexes and PA books still valid (8.5) and Crusade, sound good. Eager to see more today.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/23 09:23:02
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Gore-Drenched Khorne Chaos Lord
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Aeneades wrote:From the FAQ it sounds like they won’t be announcing the contents of the new starter set today which is a shame.
Well, no, but you can easily read between the lines and tell it will involve necrons at least.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/23 09:26:00
Subject: Re:'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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Bosskelot wrote:Curveball prediction:
40k TV show airing on HBO, written by D&D. Executive Producer Kathleen Kennedy.
Would produce legendary levels of salt.
You missed out Matt Ward
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