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From the Warhammer Community article today:

Find out more about Mozrog and Big Chompa when Codex: Orks arrives later this year, but don’t forget you can get hold of it early in the Beast Snagga Orks Army Box that we had a good look at during Warhammer Fest Online. You won’t have to wait long either – the Army Box is set for pre-order in July, so mark your calendars and get your Waaagh! banners raised high.


From this it sounds like the Beast Snaggas box will either be late July/early August, with the rest of the releases and separate codex to come... in fall? September? October? Later than that?

Which honestly annoys me mostly because I don't know if I'll be able to get the Snaggas box(like most people) and will then have to wait for the codex to drop on it's own. And yes, I know, standard GW operating procedure, blah blah blah. Doesn't mean I have to like it.
   
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 Tiberius501 wrote:
 Nazrak wrote:
Grabbed a boy and a Nob to do a quick size comparison, and was pleasantly surprised. The angle of the base isn't *quite* right, but close enough to see that the new ones haven't got stupid big, they're just a bit more upright than the old Boyz, and the Nobz are still plenty bigger.



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Is the Beast Snaggas box going up for pre-order in July new information, or did we know that already?


Could you chuck in a Beast Snagga to this scale comp? Curious how they stand next to the older models/new boyz.

Sure, I'll throw something together shortly. Just got to find the BS promo image!
   
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 Nazrak wrote:
 Tiberius501 wrote:
 Nazrak wrote:
Grabbed a boy and a Nob to do a quick size comparison, and was pleasantly surprised. The angle of the base isn't *quite* right, but close enough to see that the new ones haven't got stupid big, they're just a bit more upright than the old Boyz, and the Nobz are still plenty bigger.



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Is the Beast Snaggas box going up for pre-order in July new information, or did we know that already?


Could you chuck in a Beast Snagga to this scale comp? Curious how they stand next to the older models/new boyz.

Sure, I'll throw something together shortly. Just got to find the BS promo image!


You legend, thanks!
   
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Ere we go – it's not that great a disparity in size, as best I can tell!
   
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 Nazrak wrote:
Ere we go – it's not that great a disparity in size, as best I can tell!


Ah yeah, barely bigger than the new Boyz, maybe a bit more muscular, a tiny bit taller? That’s cool, glad to see the scale creep isn’t too strong. Curious if Nobz are going to get a new kit.
   
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I've scaled these by matching the base width, but bear in mind there are slight disparities in how tilted forwards they are (even on the official GW images), which is going to distort the relative proportions a bit.
   
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 Mr. Grey wrote:
From the Warhammer Community article today:

Find out more about Mozrog and Big Chompa when Codex: Orks arrives later this year, but don’t forget you can get hold of it early in the Beast Snagga Orks Army Box that we had a good look at during Warhammer Fest Online. You won’t have to wait long either – the Army Box is set for pre-order in July, so mark your calendars and get your Waaagh! banners raised high.


From this it sounds like the Beast Snaggas box will either be late July/early August, with the rest of the releases and separate codex to come... in fall? September? October? Later than that?

Which honestly annoys me mostly because I don't know if I'll be able to get the Snaggas box(like most people) and will then have to wait for the codex to drop on it's own. And yes, I know, standard GW operating procedure, blah blah blah. Doesn't mean I have to like it.


It isn't really standard. Sisters, cosplay elves and now orks. Most armies just get a codex alongside releases.

The best we can hope for is this will lessen stock issues later.

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 Tiberius501 wrote:
 Nazrak wrote:
Ere we go – it's not that great a disparity in size, as best I can tell!


Ah yeah, barely bigger than the new Boyz, maybe a bit more muscular, a tiny bit taller? That’s cool, glad to see the scale creep isn’t too strong. Curious if Nobz are going to get a new kit.

Yeah although I guess relatively speaking, the Nobz kit is much newer than the Boyz one (if we discount the refresh on the latter). What's interesting, and I didn't really notice it before, is how much straighter the Nobz's posture is – almost like the half-way point between the old and new Boyz.
   
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That’s true, imagining tilting the old ork/nob bases more to the new model angle, they’re probs oh a little closer to the Nob in scale.
   
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 Tiberius501 wrote:
That’s true, imagining tilting the old ork/nob bases more to the new model angle, they’re probs oh a little closer to the Nob in scale.

I'll try and get some better photos and correct the image when I have a bit more time – the slight extra tilt on my models just exaggerates how hunched they are.

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New boyz *chef kiss*


They could've made them bigger and give us even bigger Nobs, but it's all good. Flexibility loss is the only real downside.

That The White Squig dude, is the artwork fitting with the two-legged squig and rider from the Beastsnagga bix or is one of the upcoming kits spent one a special character when they could use it for Kommandoz and/or Tankbustas (dual or bespoke kits for both, *please*)? On my phone in the sun, so not feeling like playing detective on a small screen.

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With all my criticism towards the idea of getting new boyz... they have totally nailed those new models.

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A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks do not think that purple makes them harder to see. They do think that camouflage does however, without knowing why.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
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Well good thing is that as these look to be roughly similar in size as the old Boyz kit it does mean that you can use other kits to customize them.

Depending on, of course, how these guys are assembled.
   
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This model's sprue should give you a good idea of how new ork models will be assembled: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Ork-Mek-2018

7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks do not think that purple makes them harder to see. They do think that camouflage does however, without knowing why.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. 
   
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 Jidmah wrote:
This model's sprue should give you a good idea of how new ork models will be assembled: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Ork-Mek-2018


That`s rather generous towards proxying for GW's current standards, I mean they also do sprues that look like this:

Spoiler:
   
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 Nazrak wrote:

I'll try and get some better photos and correct the image when I have a bit more time – the slight extra tilt on my models just exaggerates how hunched they are.

Thanks for putting together the comparison photos together. It's helpful to know the new sculpts won't be dramatically taller than my current boyz. Overall I think the new sculpts for both types look really sharp, now I'm wondering how they'll look when mixed into existing armies.

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 Mr. Grey wrote:
 Valkyrie wrote:
Nice little treat from GW to brighten up a Monday. I like it, my only concern is how much they're going to up the prices. For an army which relies on 30-boy squads usually, this is going to hurt.


This is my concern, too. As a veteran ork player I'm set with a good number of boyz already, but new players will be hurting if the price isn't right on the new infantry. Going by current trends I can easily see a new Ork Boyz box being $45 for 10. Really what I'd love to see is a 20-man box for maybe $55 or $60. That way you're immediately set with a mid-size mob of boyz right out of the box.

On the new Boy.... not sure how I like the new trend in ork faces.


Honestly it will just be a phase out here. A box now and then, paint them up, and swap them out. No rush.
   
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Hmm. I think one or two boxes, scattered in with the rest of the ladz, will do me right.

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 Binabik15 wrote:
New boyz *chef kiss*


They could've made them bigger and give us even bigger Nobs, but it's all good. Flexibility loss is the only real downside.

That The White Squig dude, is the artwork fitting with the two-legged squig and rider from the Beastsnagga bix or is one of the upcoming kits spent one a special character when they could use it for Kommandoz and/or Tankbustas (dual or bespoke kits for both, *please*)? On my phone in the sun, so not feeling like playing detective on a small screen.


Typical Ork player, obsessed with the size of his Nob...
   
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Gathering the Informations.

 Esmer wrote:
 Jidmah wrote:
This model's sprue should give you a good idea of how new ork models will be assembled: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Ork-Mek-2018


That`s rather generous towards proxying for GW's current standards, I mean they also do sprues that look like this:

Spoiler:

Why are you using a Shadespire sprue as an example of anything for 40k?
   
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 Daedalus81 wrote:
 Mr. Grey wrote:
 Valkyrie wrote:
Nice little treat from GW to brighten up a Monday. I like it, my only concern is how much they're going to up the prices. For an army which relies on 30-boy squads usually, this is going to hurt.


This is my concern, too. As a veteran ork player I'm set with a good number of boyz already, but new players will be hurting if the price isn't right on the new infantry. Going by current trends I can easily see a new Ork Boyz box being $45 for 10. Really what I'd love to see is a 20-man box for maybe $55 or $60. That way you're immediately set with a mid-size mob of boyz right out of the box.

On the new Boy.... not sure how I like the new trend in ork faces.


Honestly it will just be a phase out here. A box now and then, paint them up, and swap them out. No rush.


Well I actually hope that the new ork kit would be 20 for 34-36.50£ as was with the new Soulblight Skeletons and Zombies. Both of which after I had seen were actually quite good.

But at worst I expect/hope it being 10 for around 27.50£. If its more expensive I am going to break some legs.
   
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 Jidmah wrote:
With all my criticism towards the idea of getting new boyz... they have totally nailed those new models.


Trooth.


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 The Red Hobbit wrote:
 Nazrak wrote:

I'll try and get some better photos and correct the image when I have a bit more time – the slight extra tilt on my models just exaggerates how hunched they are.

Thanks for putting together the comparison photos together. It's helpful to know the new sculpts won't be dramatically taller than my current boyz. Overall I think the new sculpts for both types look really sharp, now I'm wondering how they'll look when mixed into existing armies.

No doubt. Above and beyond for the exalts.

There are some fine size differences that seem to distinguish, and posture, but overall it expands the range startlingly sensibly. The new boyz look right back to the beginning. Dakka, dakka, beeetchiz.




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New boys look great. Wonder if the box will include a non like the current one, and if they are going to add a burna or big choppa as special weapon options, please?
   
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Well thanks a bunch GW The ropy looking basic Boyz were one of the main things stopping me from getting any Orks all these years. What am I gonna do now there being replaced with this excellent looking kit?

Wait new Boyz and new MK6 SM on the horizon? Maybe I'll just get enough to run the battle at the farm, for nostalgia's sake

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I like the new boyz. They're exactly like old ones but a bit more detailed. The only important thing is that they don't invalidate old models, which was my only concern. I have too many boyz to even think about getting new infantries . I won't buy snaggas either, but they also look very cool, so I'm satysfied with GW.

Someone mentioned the possibility of a new gretchins kit. I think it's very likely since the current one is the cheapest box of 11+ infantry models in the entire GW catalogue. They need to release a 40$ kit of gretchins .

 
   
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And they can sell the Runherd separately as a $50 clampack mini.

 Blackie wrote:
They're exactly like old ones but a bit more detailed.
Well... I doubt they'll be exactly like the old ones.

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I can only hope they still have the flat shoulder joint (just better, more fitted arms) so they’re compatible with the burna and loota upgrade sprues.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
And they can sell the Runherd separately as a $50 clampack mini.

 Blackie wrote:
They're exactly like old ones but a bit more detailed.
Well... I doubt they'll be exactly like the old ones.



I meant in dimensions and equipment . Like new necron warriors or sisters compared to old ones. They're just updated models, not a replacement like the new Ghaz for example, which made the old miniature obsolete.

 
   
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The new Boyz annoy me just because of how much more like a Warhammer Ork that looks than the new Kruleboyz which do not look like they belong in a Warhammer Ork line. Like it’s not a decision to change the aesthetic direction of their Orks, just the AoS Orks.

 
   
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Hmm, yes I'm not really feeling the Kruleboyz either - I'd rather have seen new Ironjaw or Bonesplittaz units - so I'm really happy that these Boyz (and the Snaggas) don't mess too much with the current Ork aesthetic.

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