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2021/09/27 17:24:39
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 9/27)
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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People... that helmet is the helmet Grimaldus has had for more than 20 years, stop acting like is something new.
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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2021/09/27 17:35:39
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 9/27)
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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Galas wrote:People... that helmet is the helmet Grimaldus has had for more than 20 years, stop acting like is something new.
Sure. But it always looked terrible. It was just less noticeable when the whole model was terrible.
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2021/09/27 17:37:56
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 9/27)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Bamberg / Erlangen
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I wasn't a fan of the old sculpt, but the high res version is growing on me.
And yeah, the helmet has been like this forever lol.
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2021/09/27 17:39:03
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 9/27)
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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Crimson wrote: Galas wrote:People... that helmet is the helmet Grimaldus has had for more than 20 years, stop acting like is something new.
Sure. But it always looked terrible. It was just less noticeable when the whole model was terrible.
I have to disagree. At this point, that helmet and the servitors are the only thing Grimaldus has going for him.
And thats something I tought about today. Special characters don't feel special anymore, unless they are something completely unique like, I don't know, a space marine mutant with wings and claws. But "Normal dude of the army with more bling" has lost his appeal of "special characterdom" a while ago. Unless you are in a fancy base or diorama, most special characters are right now just a conversion away to be made from a normal kit.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2021/09/27 17:39:48
Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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2021/09/27 17:41:39
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 9/27)
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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Galas wrote: Crimson wrote: Galas wrote:People... that helmet is the helmet Grimaldus has had for more than 20 years, stop acting like is something new.
Sure. But it always looked terrible. It was just less noticeable when the whole model was terrible.
I have to disagree. At this point, that helmet and the servitors are the only thing Grimaldus has going for him.
And thats something I tought about today. Special characters don't feel special anymore, unless they are something completely unique like, I don't know, a space marine mutant with wings and claws. But "Normal dude of the army with more bling" has lost his appeal of "special characterdom" a while ago. Unless you are in a fancy base or diorama, most special characters are right now just a conversion away to be made from a normal kit.
The left greave and kneepad look great.
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2021/09/27 18:25:40
Subject: Re:Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 9/27)
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Back on topic: So we have had a fairly significant confirmation of that leaked schedule now. Sword Brethren are the only remaining unseen item.
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2021/09/27 18:34:15
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 9/27)
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Well. We’ve seen one, leading the mixed squad. So even if we don’t get a Sword Brethren squad, the rumour is still ultimately accurate.
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2021/09/27 18:36:00
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 9/27)
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Well. We’ve seen one, leading the mixed squad. So even if we don’t get a Sword Brethren squad, the rumour is still ultimately accurate.
The specific rumour had them getting their own box. That's what I'm referring to.
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2021/09/27 18:37:51
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 9/27)
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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He has that feel of a very specific chaos space marine helmet.
Other than that i like the model.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2021/09/27 18:43:00
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 9/27)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Germany
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Kanluwen wrote: Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Well. We’ve seen one, leading the mixed squad. So even if we don’t get a Sword Brethren squad, the rumour is still ultimately accurate.
The specific rumour had them getting their own box. That's what I'm referring to.
I mean there's still this model GW seems to have revealed on accident in their Black Templars video, that's without a doubt both a Sword Brethren, and not the one we've seen already.
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"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
- Jiado |
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2021/09/27 19:58:31
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 9/27)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Grimaldus' helmet covers the gnashing of teeth on its own, huh - I wonder if he does the wailing inside of it.
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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2021/09/27 20:44:08
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 9/27)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Glad I have a bunch of old scope bits so I can add the unnecessary one back onto the plasma pistol.
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2021/09/27 21:10:05
Subject: Re:Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 9/27)
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
Australia
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Nope. There's still the Ancient to see, as well as the upgrade sprue in its entirety.
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2021/09/27 21:41:18
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 9/27)
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Wha-Mu-077 wrote:Bago wrote:Definitely a nice model, and not everyone needs a tactical rock to leap away from but I have to agree with some of the voices of him being a bit bland or generic. I think it is the pose mirroring basically the indomitus chaplain.
I didn't think of that, dang, he really does have the same pose as the Indomitus chaplain... except the Indomitus chap pulls it off better.
I don't have the time to dig out the images but I had the same feeling when looking at the Deathwatch Chaplain Cassius and one of the GW Exclusive Plague Marines. I know there are likely only a few ways of modelling a 'walking foward firing a bolt pistol with CCW in the left hand' Marine but it really seemed like they had been created from the same shared basic CAD model, just with different bells and whistles.
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2021/09/27 21:44:10
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 9/27)
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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I have pruned out a bunch of OT chatter. As a reminder, if you see something that you feel is inappropriate in a thread, please hit the mod alert button so that we can decide whether or not it needs action, rather than derailing the thread over it.
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2021/09/27 21:55:49
Subject: Re:Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 9/27)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Germany
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You know GW is running out of ideas for the Marine range if they put out 4 characters sculpts in the exact same pose.
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"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
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2021/09/27 22:13:35
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 9/27)
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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Ignoring for a moment that those four characters are a considerable distance away from the 'exact same pose', there are only so many poses that work, so yes, you're going to see variations on those poses crop up on multiple models. The fact that those four models are all waving a stick in the air while not actually being in exactly the same pose is, in fact, a step up from the metal model days, when GW would re-use an armature for multiple models and just put the skull decorations in different places.
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2021/09/27 22:23:25
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 9/27)
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Dakka Veteran
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I don't find Grimaldus himself particularly exciting but I like that the servitors don't have any sculpted BT iconography. They would fit into other Imperium armies too.
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That place is the harsh dark future far left with only war left. |
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2021/09/27 22:24:57
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 9/27)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I wasn't a big fan, but the helmet has been growing on me.I can see why people don't like it, but it's his iconic look. Asmodai also has a pretty interesting helmet for a chaplain, so we'll see if he looks any good primarised as well.
Also, anyone getting Bane vibes from Grimaldus? "You think the darkness is your ally?)
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2021/09/27 22:31:20
Subject: Re:Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 9/27)
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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Wha-Mu-077 wrote:You know GW is running out of ideas for the Marine range if they put out 4 characters sculpts in the exact same pose.
insaniak wrote:Ignoring for a moment that those four characters are a considerable distance away from the 'exact same pose', there are only so many poses that work, so yes, you're going to see variations on those poses crop up on multiple models. The fact that those four models are all waving a stick in the air while not actually being in exactly the same pose is, in fact, a step up from the metal model days, when GW would re-use an armature for multiple models and just put the skull decorations in different places.
Also, they guy in robes’s picture at the end has been flipped. He’s got his pistol in the other hand, wrong foot forward, etc.
Similar, but mirrored pose is not 4x identical.
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2021/09/27 22:35:51
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 9/27)
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Regular Dakkanaut
Tallarook, Victoria, Australia
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insaniak wrote:Ignoring for a moment that those four characters are a considerable distance away from the 'exact same pose', there are only so many poses that work, so yes, you're going to see variations on those poses crop up on multiple models.
There's more than one pose that "works"....
This is like 40k boy band
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2021/09/27 22:39:27
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 9/27)
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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And in the time between the first of those models and the latest, GW have released other models that aren't in that pose...
I mean, yes, if you deliberately pick out the models that are in similar poses, they'll all be in similar poses. In other news: water is wet.
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2021/09/27 22:44:04
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 9/27)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Germany
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insaniak wrote:
I mean, yes, if you deliberately pick out the models that are in similar poses, they'll all be in similar poses. In other news: water is wet.
Or maybe it's a simple observation of two things: that all Primaris Chaplains have the same pose, and that it's gonna look really awkward if you have the EC and Grimaldus in the same army?
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"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
- Jiado |
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2021/09/27 22:48:23
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 9/27)
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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It is a bit weird that we have three Chaplains in similar poses, plus the new Emp's Chump. As for upcoming BTs, Varlak has said he's seen the Sword Brethren kit, and he knew the contents of the lacklustre launch box as well. [EDIT]: Over on his Facebook page, Mark Gibbons has been posting some of the original concept artwork for the Black Templars he did years ago. According to what he said, the procession of Servitors was never something intended to be created as miniatures, just something he added for fun! If these pics don't work please let me know:
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2021/09/27 23:26:56
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 9/27)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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That art is frame worthy. A chaplain with a chainsword is cool. And I would have preferred those servitors to the new ones. They're much more characterful, for a bunch of lobotomized dudes. I was also a big fan of censer-hands, since I imagined he launched them out like the guy from Hellboy 2.
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2021/09/27 23:36:38
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 9/27)
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Yeah I prefer censer-hands to the new far-more-human looking one they've replaced him with.
Always referred to censer-hands as the guy with the salt and pepper shakers.
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2021/09/28 00:02:27
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 9/27)
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Gargantuan Gargant
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Grimaldus isn't terrible, and I think they've painted his teeth in such a way that they stand out more than it should, but so far the only model that gives me the "wow" factor is Helbrecht still. Which is a bit disappointing given that I am still very happy that BT have finally been given some loving again.
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2021/09/28 00:03:07
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 9/27)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Germany
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The Firstborn Black Templars Chapter Upgrade is now marked as "Sold Out Online" on GW's website, meaning a wildly inferior Primaris replacement is coming soon
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"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
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2021/09/28 00:05:44
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 9/27)
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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*presses F to pay respects*
That was such a nice sprue.
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2021/09/28 00:07:31
Subject: Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 9/27)
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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Wha-Mu-077 wrote:The Firstborn Black Templars Chapter Upgrade is now marked as "Sold Out Online" on GW's website, meaning a wildly inferior Primaris replacement is coming soon
Could be a rebox. Never know these days with the store listing errors they've been having.
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