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So, little backstory here. About a year ago my job announced they were doing a big reorg, and about 6 months ago, my job announced my department was liquidated and the jobs sent to India. Note: During this timeframe, my department was the only one in our area working in person during the pandemic because were essential workers, so the whole time we were coming in to work during the worst of a global pandemic without any provided PPE, they were actively negotiating to send our jobs away - class act.

Anyway, as soon as I heard I might lose my job, I started saving money, just in case. I wound up landing something somewhere else that worked out pretty well (and my dudes, I missed the reaper by about 2 weeks, it was a very close thing).

So now I again have a stable job, and I had some cash savings for in case I became unemployed. Most of that money I am going to invest or spend on home repair, but I did decide that after a year of psychic trauma I deserved a little present, so I finally bought myself the dumbest gun I always wanted but was otherwise too smart to buy.

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Pretty excited about blasting away the equivalent of half a pumpkin spice latte with every trigger pull.

I'm going to get it cerakoted once I feel comfortable with a detail strip, thinking black on black zebra stripes (yes I know that is a factory option, but they don't do the integrated muzzle brake in that finish).

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I'm sure you'll love it.

A Deagle is next on the list of dream guns. Though sadly I can only buy one in .44 magnum here in CA(though I can totally do a caliber swap after the fact and just load my own ammo).

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Found this little video that sets up a pretty good hypothetical question. I've been interested in a PS90 for a while (StarGate fan), but having one with a super-long barrel has always killed it for me. Introducing, the PS90 pistol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT7iMaNSlHg

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 cuda1179 wrote:
Found this little video that sets up a pretty good hypothetical question. I've been interested in a PS90 for a while (StarGate fan), but having one with a super-long barrel has always killed it for me. Introducing, the PS90 pistol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT7iMaNSlHg

$200 to SBR it isn’t out of line for what a what $1800 gun?

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The factory barrel is anything but super long and goofy. Its just 16" and its in a bullpup rifle, so its gonna handle nicely.

But yeah, if you are anywhere in the US that allows PS90 ownership you can also SBR it after the fact. Much cheaper and less legally dubious than getting a new receiver for an existing gun.

And the way I see it, if you can afford a PS90, just save up a little more and buy a machine gun. FN products are absurdly expensive.

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Pleasant Valley, Iowa

Sadly Iowa does not allow machine guns or else I long since would have gotten, in rapid succession, an Uzi and probably a divorce for spending 20 grand on a gun.

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 Ouze wrote:
Sadly Iowa does not allow machine guns or else I long since would have gotten, in rapid succession, an Uzi and probably a divorce for spending 20 grand on a gun.

That’s kind of funny; a friend of mine has tired of his Uzi and wants to sell it. In fairness he bought it as an investment he could have fun with.

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(sad Iowa noises)


That makes me think, though: what are your guy's dream guns?

For me that list is down to:

  • Barrett M82A1

  • Uzi, and not that stupid long barrel variant, I mean the short barrel select fire stubby stock real Uzi

  • UMP45*



  • *To be honest I think I could actually make a pretty fair version of the UMP45 pretty easily now; I think you can more or less do it from a USC and SBR it.

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    I mean, you can buy semi-auto UMPs. They're expensive AF like all HK stuff, but they do exist. There is someone on GB right now selling 2 of them(as pistols). https://www.gunbroker.com/item/903760342 Sad thing is that a kit to rebuild your own UMP is about the same cost as getting a semi-auto version.

    But yeah, a real version(full MG) of either an UMP or MP5 would be pretty nice to have.



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    2) Type 1 AK-47
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    5) MG42

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     Ouze wrote:
    (sad Iowa noises)


    That makes me think, though: what are your guy's dream guns?


    I wouldn't call them "dream guns", but I've long desired a Chiappa Rhino and a Kris Vector. Unfortunately for me, these fall into the "nice gun, but not nice enough for that price" category.
       
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    My dream guns are old guns. BAR / m14.

    A scar 17 would also be pretty nice. Though I am pretty happen with my Sig .308

    Trying to find a walther PPq .45 atm for a decent price. I've seen some pretty off the wall prices from the local dealers.

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    My current dream gun is the L98A1 manually-activated cadet version of the SA80.

    Not many around, and fearfully expensive when they come up.

       
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    Mines a ZiS-S-53, but ammo would be a nightmare, not to mention gas.


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    Well you could always slap that ZiS-S-53 on a Toyota and make your own technical. Gas mileage on those isn't bad.

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     Grey Templar wrote:
    Well you could always slap that ZiS-S-53 on a Toyota and make your own technical. Gas mileage on those isn't bad.


    You do realize that a ZiS-S-53 weighs 2.07 tons, right? It's an 85mm. You ever seen a technical that had armament comparable to a Patton? No? There's a reason.

    I think the biggest gun I've ever seen that done with was a 75mm pack crammed into a Volkswagen, and it worked, or, didn't, as the case may be, sort of like a stug, so it wouldn't flip it.

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     Ouze wrote:
    (sad Iowa noises)


    That makes me think, though: what are your guy's dream guns?

    For me that list is down to:

  • Barrett M82A1

  • Uzi, and not that stupid long barrel variant, I mean the short barrel select fire stubby stock real Uzi

  • UMP45*



  • *To be honest I think I could actually make a pretty fair version of the UMP45 pretty easily now; I think you can more or less do it from a USC and SBR it.




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     Ouze wrote:
    (sad Iowa noises)


    That makes me think, though: what are your guy's dream guns?



    Scar-H and G36 (the OG one with the dual optic, as awful as it is, it's not like I'd be carrying it around much anyway xD) fat change of ever getting either here in Canada, even in some busted up civilian version.

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     BaronIveagh wrote:
     Grey Templar wrote:
    Well you could always slap that ZiS-S-53 on a Toyota and make your own technical. Gas mileage on those isn't bad.


    You do realize that a ZiS-S-53 weighs 2.07 tons, right? It's an 85mm. You ever seen a technical that had armament comparable to a Patton? No? There's a reason.

    I think the biggest gun I've ever seen that done with was a 75mm pack crammed into a Volkswagen, and it worked, or, didn't, as the case may be, sort of like a stug, so it wouldn't flip it.


    Well I was kinda joking.

    But I mean, somebody put a T55 turret onto the back of a truck so anything is possible.

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    M60A1 would be my dream gun to own, along with the permits to be allowed to own it. My dream rifle would be a modernized FN FAL with a rail system for all those superfluous extras that I don't really like but occasionally turn out to be useful.

    As far as pistols go? My P32 isn't anything other than a free home defense pistol, so I'd ideally like to find a .45 ACP in a platform I'm very comfortable with as far as grip, aesthetics, AND function. Still trying to figure out the best route there.

    I'd also like to own a Makarov 9mm solely because of the Soviet era sentimentality. How many times I had to be able to recognize that from the Platoon Sergeant's deck of Warsaw Pact weapon recognition cards...

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    Another question for your delectation.

    So I know most parts of guns wear out over time, because they do.

    But how often do you need to replace a given magazine? From my limited understanding, they tend to be (possibly universally?) spring tensioned, with the downward pressure coming from the stacked rounds.

    So as I see it, they should be pretty robust, though I suspect the top bit might be exposed to heat when the gun fires, albeit not that much, as once chambered the round should be lifted clear?


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     Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
    Another question for your delectation.

    So I know most parts of guns wear out over time, because they do.

    But how often do you need to replace a given magazine? From my limited understanding, they tend to be (possibly universally?) spring tensioned, with the downward pressure coming from the stacked rounds.

    So as I see it, they should be pretty robust, though I suspect the top bit might be exposed to heat when the gun fires, albeit not that much, as once chambered the round should be lifted clear?


    It depends on your level of use really; the more the spring is tensioned and released the faster it wears out. Other than that a magazine can last your heirs lifetime. The feed lips are pretty robust and as long as the follower or baseplate remain intact the spring should be the only maintenance component. Depending on the magazine cost some are simply disposable and some require maintenance.

    My dream gun for a long time was the Carl Gustav M/45. It still is but now I own one and just a butt tonne of magazines. At this point I feel like I should build a Suomi just to justify the magazines.
    I’d like a Holland and Holland double rifle; and a Winchester model 21

    In my reasonable to attain list I have a Winchester 23 and the new model Python.

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     Grey Templar wrote:


    Well I was kinda joking.

    But I mean, somebody put a T55 turret onto the back of a truck so anything is possible.



    I'm a bit surprised. That 52-PT-412D can flip an 18 ton vehicle from the recoil. Did they actually shoot it like that or is this just something that was found?

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    So, little backstory here. About a year ago my job announced they were doing a big reorg, and about 6 months ago, my job announced my department was liquidated and the jobs sent to India. Note: During this timeframe, my department was the only one in our area working in person during the pandemic because were essential workers, so the whole time we were coming in to work during the worst of a global pandemic without any provided PPE, they were actively negotiating to send our jobs away - class act.

    Anyway, as soon as I heard I might lose my job, I started saving money, just in case. I wound up landing something somewhere else that worked out pretty well (and my dudes, I missed the reaper by about 2 weeks, it was a very close thing).

    So now I again have a stable job, and I had some cash savings for in case I became unemployed. Most of that money I am going to invest or spend on home repair, but I did decide that after a year of psychic trauma I deserved a little present, so I finally bought myself the dumbest gun I always wanted but was otherwise too smart to buy.

    [spoiler]


    Pretty excited about blasting away the equivalent of half a pumpkin spice latte with every trigger pull.

    I'm going to get it cerakoted once I feel comfortable with a detail strip, thinking black on black zebra stripes (yes I know that is a factory option, but they don't do the integrated muzzle brake in that finish).

    [/spoiler]


    l got the chance to shoot one of those when I was 16. Being smaller, and left handed, the gun jerked hard every shot, and the recoil drove my index finger knuckle into the slide lock. Every. Single. Time. It wasn't really limp-wristing, I was simply too small for the size of the bloody thing.

    Now that I'm a bit more grown (and have a bit more experience), I wouldn't mind trying it again.

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    I'd honestly like to get a chance to fire a Colt Single Action Army sometime.

    As for owning, I'd like a fireable wheel-lock carbine, and a flintlock pistol of some sort as well. I'm not super picky.

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     Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
    Another question for your delectation.

    So I know most parts of guns wear out over time, because they do.

    But how often do you need to replace a given magazine? From my limited understanding, they tend to be (possibly universally?) spring tensioned, with the downward pressure coming from the stacked rounds.

    So as I see it, they should be pretty robust, though I suspect the top bit might be exposed to heat when the gun fires, albeit not that much, as once chambered the round should be lifted clear?



    The heat a magazine spring is exposed to is never going to be anywhere near enough to actually damage it, at least if you're talking a factory made magazine. Maybe some hokey magazine made from some spring made out of crappy wire or something might be in danger.

    The springs in a magazine are usually made to have lifetimes of 10k+ish(or more) compression cycles(a full compression and decompression), which is actually more rounds than what most firearms are rated for. Assuming the spring is never compressed/decompressed beyond what it is supposed to be and is never exposed to many hundreds of degrees that would melt it, it will last basically forever from a practical standpoint. The biggest danger to a magazine would be getting crushed because it got left on the ground or something. But for normal use they will last practically forever.

    You'll wear out the barrel on your gun long before you wear out the magazines.


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     BaronIveagh wrote:
     Grey Templar wrote:


    Well I was kinda joking.

    But I mean, somebody put a T55 turret onto the back of a truck so anything is possible.



    I'm a bit surprised. That 52-PT-412D can flip an 18 ton vehicle from the recoil. Did they actually shoot it like that or is this just something that was found?


    My guess is they put down those jacks to brace it. Probably functional enough as basically a mobile artillery piece.

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     AustonT wrote:
     Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
    Another question for your delectation.

    So I know most parts of guns wear out over time, because they do.

    But how often do you need to replace a given magazine? From my limited understanding, they tend to be (possibly universally?) spring tensioned, with the downward pressure coming from the stacked rounds.

    So as I see it, they should be pretty robust, though I suspect the top bit might be exposed to heat when the gun fires, albeit not that much, as once chambered the round should be lifted clear?


    It depends on your level of use really; the more the spring is tensioned and released the faster it wears out. Other than that a magazine can last your heirs lifetime. The feed lips are pretty robust and as long as the follower or baseplate remain intact the spring should be the only maintenance component. Depending on the magazine cost some are simply disposable and some require maintenance.

    My dream gun for a long time was the Carl Gustav M/45. It still is but now I own one and just a butt tonne of magazines. At this point I feel like I should build a Suomi just to justify the magazines.
    I’d like a Holland and Holland double rifle; and a Winchester model 21

    In my reasonable to attain list I have a Winchester 23 and the new model Python.


    Another issue with mags, and we used to see this in the Army all the time, was leaving the mags fully packed for very long periods of time. You essentially are putting the spring in a clamp, and that has an adverse effect after time.

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    If your mags are being damaged by being stored full, they are very very poor quality and should be replaced with proper ones.

    As long as a spring is kept within its normal range of motion it won't matter at what point in a compression cycle it is. Properly made magazine springs will be well within their actual limits. Again, assuming the spring is properly made. A properly made magazine will not have the spring being compressed to a point it will damage it when it is full.

    The only way a fully loaded, and properly manufactured magazine spring, could be damaged just by sitting somewhere is if it was subjected to extreme heat or cold that could temporarily change the springs elasticity. But that would have to be quite hot or cold for that to happen.

    It is pretty much fully debunked that storing mags loaded can damage them, assuming they are made to proper specs of course.

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     Ouze wrote:
    So, little backstory here. About a year ago my job announced they were doing a big reorg, and about 6 months ago, my job announced my department was liquidated and the jobs sent to India. Note: During this timeframe, my department was the only one in our area working in person during the pandemic because were essential workers, so the whole time we were coming in to work during the worst of a global pandemic without any provided PPE, they were actively negotiating to send our jobs away - class act.

    Anyway, as soon as I heard I might lose my job, I started saving money, just in case. I wound up landing something somewhere else that worked out pretty well (and my dudes, I missed the reaper by about 2 weeks, it was a very close thing).

    So now I again have a stable job, and I had some cash savings for in case I became unemployed. Most of that money I am going to invest or spend on home repair, but I did decide that after a year of psychic trauma I deserved a little present, so I finally bought myself the dumbest gun I always wanted but was otherwise too smart to buy.

    Spoiler:


    Pretty excited about blasting away the equivalent of half a pumpkin spice latte with every trigger pull.

    I'm going to get it cerakoted once I feel comfortable with a detail strip, thinking black on black zebra stripes (yes I know that is a factory option, but they don't do the integrated muzzle brake in that finish).



    Good to hear you got past that scare, and congratulations on the meme gun. I've got one of my own, it's an objectively stupid thing but it's a ton of fun to shoot. Just be sure to brace it firmly and lock your dominant wrist- it really needs a stiff grip to cycle well.

     Grey Templar wrote:
    And the way I see it, if you can afford a PS90, just save up a little more and buy a machine gun. FN products are absurdly expensive.


    A little more? There are no transferrable P90s, and I don't know that a $6-7K M11 or a $10+K Uzi- to say nothing of the cost of select-fire rifles- really scratches the same itch, let alone at 3-5x the cost.

    I paid about $2K for a Steyr 40th Anniversary StG-77, and it's been a lot more useful to me (carbine courses, action matches) than an open-bolt subgun would be. Still want an Uzi, though- I built a closed-bolt SBR Uzi for about $1K, but it's just not the same.

    Edit: Grey Templar is 100% right about properly-made mags not being damaged by being stored loaded. That's common practice. Ironically, repeatedly loading and unloading mags on carry guns in the hopes of minimizing time spent loaded actually wears them out in a hurry.

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     catbarf wrote:
    Good to hear you got past that scare, and congratulations on the meme gun. I've got one of my own, it's an objectively stupid thing but it's a ton of fun to shoot. Just be sure to brace it firmly and lock your dominant wrist- it really needs a stiff grip to cycle well.


    Thank you! I'm already thinking about swapping out the default sights, or installing optics, but I am pretty sure that's just sending good money after bad - I doubt I've really going to use this enough to justify any more investment (I don't hunt).




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     Grey Templar wrote:
    And the way I see it, if you can afford a PS90, just save up a little more and buy a machine gun. FN products are absurdly expensive.


    A little more? There are no transferrable P90s, and I don't know that a $6-7K M11 or a $10+K Uzi- to say nothing of the cost of select-fire rifles- really scratches the same itch, let alone at 3-5x the cost.

    I paid about $2K for a Steyr 40th Anniversary StG-77, and it's been a lot more useful to me (carbine courses, action matches) than an open-bolt subgun would be. Still want an Uzi, though- I built a closed-bolt SBR Uzi for about $1K, but it's just not the same.

    Edit: Grey Templar is 100% right about properly-made mags not being damaged by being stored loaded. That's common practice. Ironically, repeatedly loading and unloading mags on carry guns in the hopes of minimizing time spent loaded actually wears them out in a hurry.


    PS90, not P90.

    Yes, a machine gun, even a cheap one, is 4-5 times the cost of what a PS90 would run you. But once you've surpassed the $2k price tag its not much further to a cheap-o machine gun like a Mac10 or something. Especially when your 2k isn't really getting you much beyond what an AR would do for you. Might as well save a little longer and get something special.

    PS90s are cool, but I wouldn't say their coolness is worth their pricetag. I would personally just keep saving for a transferable machine gun of some kind. Maybe even consider dropping some of your retirement investments into it because MGs aren't a terrible option for that.

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