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Wichita Falls, TX

posted my thread trying to get a good trade for some of my models. skiman94 offered me 3 evangelion figures, we worked out a deal for the figures in exchange for my stormtalon.
he informed me that the figures were never opened before, and that was the selling point. i only get the pvc statuettes, but the prospect of 3 figures from my favorite anime from circa 2000-2001 was too good to pass up.

today i received the box. in it were the 3 promised figures.... the two sega branded "real model" series eva figures have replaced staples... the asuka card is underneath one of the accessories, which due to the way it is packaged is impossible to acomplish without opening the packaging. and the eva-04 figure was just jammed in and thus the card was bent to almost 90 degrees.

but the most disappointing is the kaiyodo branded chrome edition of eva-01 test type... i've wanted this figure since i was 17 but could never find one for a decent price... but the blister has been re-glued down to the card... in a rather shoddy manner and has came loose in the packaging or just due to negligence / bad job.


i've given him two offers. either 25 dollars on paypal which is more than fair for opened action figures like this. or he can pay for shipping to return the figures. i refuse to spend anything to return these figures since i was intentionally lied to.


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after posting this, i called him to negotiate an alternate trade. he became very defensive and began raising his voice, cursing, etc. i gave him the option between the well painted tactical squad or the terminator squad. he cursed a bit more and told me to just ship him the terminators. and i will also include the stripped AOBR marines i have.

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I do not believe . I cursed. You were yelling into the phone at me that I lied to you which I did not. I will post the same pictures to any of the mods that I sent you to show none of,the packages were opened.,the purple Eva was damaged wnen I moved ingo my house and was never opened but resezled due to package being partially opened. You threatend to keep my models or make me pay to reship them back to my house. I then said send me something b getecause when you stated to me I will not pay to ship them back because you kept saying you lied ti you whuch I did not. I will ship back your stuff when I get it I e


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Get your stuff. You just hung up on me wheni said I will send your stuff back

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Death-Dealing Devastator





Wichita Falls, TX

And I will refuse the package every time. I've fulfilled my end of the agreement.

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Neonhate has hung up on me when I attempted to tell him that I will be shipping back the stuff he sent me when he threatend to keep my stuff abd make me pay to have it shipped back or take what he sent me. I just want my stuff back at this point but he feels that since he has my stuff and he is sending me something he forced me to agree to it is resolved on his end.
   
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Death-Dealing Devastator





Wichita Falls, TX

i did not force him into agreeing to anything. after seeing that the figures had in fact been opened, i proposed an alternate trade because i still wanted them but they were misrepresented and worth significantly less than unopened figures. i offered the terminators he was interested in, to which he said "fine, whatever." i even tossed in the aobr marines i had only after i had shipped the models he started this whole "i want my stuff back" business. i hung up on him because i was having dinner with a friend at a restaurant and my friend could hear him yelling. i have not once raised my voice. and am completely by this inability to speak to me like a normal person.


they are now sitting on my shelf including the purple one that i was planning to leave in the package, but since it had already been opened, i had no reservations about displaying it with the rest of my figures.

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Capellanus Lemartes Speramus  
   
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So in other words you forced me to take the terminators and now refuse to send the evas back . Just so we are clear I have offerdd to take back my stuff and you continue to refuse to send it back. Thanks. If I were everyone else I woukd make sure neonehate ships first in the future.
   
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Wichita Falls, TX

i would have sent them back had you paid for shipping. but you agreed to the alternative that i proposed so i shipped them.

Capellanus Lemartes Speramus  
   
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So whAt was my choice if I did not pay you to ship the items back. You are admiting that if I did not pay you to ship my stuff back you were going to keep my stuff and send me nothing, right. I either get nothing or,something I can now continue to try and sebd back to you to get my stuff back. re you going to retufn my stuff. I wil even ship it back to you first. Are you going to send my stuff back.
   
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Neon Hate, in fairness of both members, you pay to ship your half of the deal back, and he pays to ship his. You can't skimp out on this, just because you didn't look at a picture hard enough.
   
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I also feel it would be fair for you both to ship your halves back if you were Unsatisfied. It is not fair to make him pay to ship your stuff and his stuff for a disagreement.

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I agree with the other impartial parties that have chimed in. Each person should just pay their own shipping to return the stuff. No need to get emotional over this, since both parties seem to have not been 100% careful with discussing the details of the transaction. Both of you were wrong, albeit within reasonable limitations. Hope you can sort this out amicably from now on.

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Baltimore, MD

For future reference, if both parties are communicating with one another it's usually best to work it out via PM rather than arguing with one another over the forum.

Refraining from open argument helps protect the parties to the disputed trade; people who argue like this over on the forum simply do not look like desirable trading partners.

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The whole point of a TR is to foster communication and hopefully, reach an amicable agreement. Since you two clearly disagree, I suggest you either both calm down and have a telephone conversation to reach a decision or discuss further in PM.

Either way, I would suggest that having a mature and open discussion without resorting to swearing, name calling and accusations is more likely to result in a positive outcome for both of you. Getting heated and worked up does no-one any good so take your time, take a deep breath and try and approach it calmly. Please update this thread if/when you reach an outcome.

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I have kept this public in an attempt to get my,reputation back. I did not lie and only wanted my stuff back.The outcome is the same. Neonhate has refused to agree to ship back my stuff if I send him back his. I have attempted several times via phone and email. His response is the same. I have to accept his trade because I agreed to it after he told me he was not going to pay to return my stuff. My final thoughts on this are anyone dealin with neon hate should a sk him to ship first or pay first. Once he gets your stuff he will obviuosly have no problem keeping it wether you lwant it back or not.
   
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Wichita Falls, TX

when you tell people that stuff has never been opened.... but it's been opened... and then reglued... horribly at that, then it's been opened. its just that simple. Had you told me that the EVA-01 figure had been "damaged in a move" and that you then reglued the blister back to the card then i would have offered a far different trade. withholding the truth is still called lying.

you didn't seem to have a problem over the phone with the alternate trade that i proposed until after i shipped. only then did you start this bunk "he won't ship my stuff back!" crap. all i said is that i wouldn't pay for it, because i'm not shelling out 11 bucks because someone misrepresented their stuff. like i said, i still wanted the figures, i just had no reason to keep the EVA-01 in the package anymore because it wasn't worth much anymore. which is why instead of no one getting anything they wanted, i offered another trade that you immediately said sure to. excuse me.. you said "Fine, whatever." after which i went and immediately shipped.

Capellanus Lemartes Speramus  
   
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So you admit that you would have kept my stuff if I did not accept your trade and did not pay to have it shipped back. That is all I want. I did not lie it was never opened. Sorry if I did not mention the damage. It still does not change the facts that your refusing to ship it back because I am not happy with what I know your sending me. That makes you the bad trader not me. You can call me aliar all you want I have never changed my story or stance that I just want my stuff back.
   
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Wichita Falls, TX

Ok, so after a phone call we've both agreed it was miscommunication and inflamed emotions that have drug this to the point it has come to. We've reached an amicable agreement on both ends and both feel this thread should be removed. skiman can confirm this, but he's busy and AFK at the moment and should reply to this at his first convenience.

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