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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/03 02:14:40
Subject: Do you consider videogames to be a sport?
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Fixture of Dakka
Kamloops, BC
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Title says it all, I myself would probably say no but then again things like dart throwing and pool is considered a sport so I don't know.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/03 06:05:16
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Infiltrating Hawwa'
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There's a reason their called e-sports and not sports. I find sports to mean something that requires physical prowess. Almost everything but reflexes is mental based in e-sports.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/03 07:42:35
Subject: Do you consider videogames to be a sport?
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Terrifying Doombull
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Sport implies that you need to use your body, not just your tumbs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/03 07:47:43
Subject: Do you consider videogames to be a sport?
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
Inside your mind, corrupting the pathways
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More of a sport than golf, certainly
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/03 08:03:44
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Lady of the Lake
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It's like golf, if it was as popular and as interesting as the super bowl at times. Once again the difference and why they're called e-sports.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/03 09:58:55
Subject: Do you consider videogames to be a sport?
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Oberstleutnant
Back in the English morass
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Trondheim wrote:Sport implies that you need to use your body, not just your thumbs.
You do use your body.
There are already a lot of sports which require little physical activity. I don't see how Gaming is any different.
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The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/03 12:08:38
Subject: Do you consider videogames to be a sport?
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Powerful Pegasus Knight
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No. Get off your ass.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/03 12:21:53
Subject: Do you consider videogames to be a sport?
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Sniping Hexa
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If Darts, Snooker and Golf are considered sports, I don't see a reason why gaming shouldn't be. The definition of the term "sport" is tricky to apply to gaming, IMO there should be a definite distinction between "games" and "sports". "Games" would involve skill but little/no physical activity, "sports" would involve both.
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Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:All I can say is... thank you vodo40k...
Zweischneid wrote:No way man. A Space Marine in itself is scary. But a Marine WITHOUT helmet wears at least 3-times as much plot-armour as a Marine with helmet. And heaven forbid if the Marine would also happen to have an intimidating looking, vertical scar. Then you're surly boned. Those guys are the worst. Not a chance I'd say.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/03 13:19:01
Subject: Do you consider videogames to be a sport?
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Rampaging Khorne Dreadnought
Wollongong, Australia
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It can be considered a sport, chess is considered a sport, so is darts and pool. There are some games such as the RTS and MOBA category which you need a lot of skill to be good at it. Those ARE considered sports in Korea.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/03 13:35:34
Subject: Do you consider videogames to be a sport?
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Powerful Pegasus Knight
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If it's a sport it should go in the 'Sports for fat people with no interest of bettering their fitness' category. I know when I go out on a weekend and do a 40k MTB ride then come home and play COD which one is a sport.
Is there any reason video games need to be considered sport? What purpose does it serve other than, the only one I can see, making people who do no physical exercise feel better about themselves.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/03 13:42:37
Subject: Do you consider videogames to be a sport?
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
USA
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Sport, being an ill defined word that basically means whatever one wants it mean, makes this questions unanswerable
There you go guys. The smart ass remark of the thread
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/04 18:50:12
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
United States
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No I do not consider them sports.
rockerbikie wrote:It can be considered a sport, chess is considered a sport, so is darts and pool. .
They are? Sense when? I never considered them sports
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/04 18:51:09
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
USA
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The Olypmic Committee considers Chess a sport.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/04 20:17:14
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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and heaven forbid you are caught with Wistrol in your system, if you are a chess olympian
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/04 20:37:24
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
United States
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Ha, well Ill be damned. I never would have considered it one. Thanks for that lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/04 21:47:33
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Plastictrees
UK
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Art, not sport. /Thread
Seriously, I don't think a sport is something that requires physical prowess but not everything that is competitve and requires ability is a sport.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/05 19:40:47
Subject: Do you consider videogames to be a sport?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Cheesecat wrote:Title says it all, I myself would probably say no but then again things like dart throwing and pool is considered a sport so I don't know.
No. But then, I don't consider darts, bowling or pool to be sports either. Those are activities.
Soccer, football, baseball, tennis and so on are sports in my book.
I'm iffy on Golf, but having lugged around clubs in Houston's summer heat and humidity without a golf-cart for 18 holes has made me reconsider my position.
These are my opinions. Yours may differ.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/05 19:54:00
Subject: Do you consider videogames to be a sport?
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
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Certain games I'll consider E-sports, such as starcraft.and halo.
I don't consider league of legends one however.
Video games can't become sports unless we are talking futuristic laser tag, and even then it's not a sport.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/05 19:56:35
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Besides, if we institute "video games" as an olympic sport, who among those "e-L33t" players could legitimately pass a drug test?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/05 20:00:25
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Hallowed Canoness
Ireland
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Voted "not sure". It seems to me that what is a sport and what is not would be defined by public consensus rather than a general definition - for once you apply definitions, you'll end up either having to accept that video games are sports, or you will have to concede that a number of currently accepted sports are actually not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport#Meaning_and_usage
Give it another ~30-50 years and (provided we do not nuke ourselves in the mean time) video games will have become an accepted part of everybody's daily lives much like television is today, and by then will be featured more prominently like today's sports, perhaps even replacing some in popularity. Some few nations are already there.
Personally, I find it a little silly, especially once you start comparing stuff like billard to FPS. One is a "coordination sport", the other ... apparently not? Because you're coordinating a crosshair on a screen in front of you, rather than a cue on the table in front of you? Sounds like a bunch of elitist protectionism.
juraigamer wrote:Video games can't become sports unless we are talking futuristic laser tag, and even then it's not a sport.
Without ever actually having thought of laser tag as a sport (or a "video game" for that matter), I have to ask ... why not? I'd be interested in the reasoning / the supposed difference to "actual" sports.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/06 00:26:38
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Video games are absolutely not a sport! Give me a break.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/06 00:45:18
Subject: Do you consider videogames to be a sport?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I actually find it hard to consider video games a "game" in the traditional sense that is often associated with darts, billiards, cards, and even p/p RPGs. My reasoning for this, is because how many of us "shut down" our minds when we have that controller, HID (for computers), or whatever that is involved with video games? I know that I can lose time with the mindless fun that is video games. And this is quite the opposite with other activities, such as previously mentioned, billiards, RPGs and T/T games.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/06 01:58:39
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Hallowed Canoness
Ireland
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Ensis Ferrae wrote:I actually find it hard to consider video games a "game" in the traditional sense that is often associated with darts, billiards, cards, and even p/p RPGs. My reasoning for this, is because how many of us "shut down" our minds when we have that controller, HID (for computers), or whatever that is involved with video games? I know that I can lose time with the mindless fun that is video games. And this is quite the opposite with other activities, such as previously mentioned, billiards, RPGs and T/T games.
That sounds weird, considering that billard, RPGs and Tabletop games are all present in video games as well.
I'm sure there are lots of video games where you can indeed "shut down your mind", but do the current "e-sport" games such as Counterstrike and StarCraft truly count as such? Is it not true that you have to focus immensely on proper hand-eye-coordination and nigh-instinctive reflexes to beat an opponent at CS, as well as planning and executing carefully laid out building and combat strategies in SC whilst simultaneously reacting to whatever the other player does?
I always shut down "some part" of my mind when I'm playing, but I need reflexes for FPS (like with clay shooting) and logic for strategy games (like with chess). What I'm playing thus depends on what part of my mind I feel needs relaxing. If I want to shut down completely I grab a good book and go chill, casually allowing my fantasy to work by itself without any sort of "you need to win" pressure like it exists when playing most video games.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/06 02:22:28
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Nigel Stillman
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The moniker "e-sport" fits well here.
I consider competitive structured play in video games an e-sport.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/06 02:34:13
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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juraigamer wrote:Certain games I'll consider E-sports, such as starcraft.and halo.
I don't consider league of legends one however.
I am curious why you consider those two to be sports but LoL is not a sport.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/06 02:54:23
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Lynata wrote:Ensis Ferrae wrote:I actually find it hard to consider video games a "game" in the traditional sense that is often associated with darts, billiards, cards, and even p/p RPGs. My reasoning for this, is because how many of us "shut down" our minds when we have that controller, HID (for computers), or whatever that is involved with video games? I know that I can lose time with the mindless fun that is video games. And this is quite the opposite with other activities, such as previously mentioned, billiards, RPGs and T/T games.
That sounds weird, considering that billard, RPGs and Tabletop games are all present in video games as well.
I'm sure there are lots of video games where you can indeed "shut down your mind", but do the current "e-sport" games such as Counterstrike and StarCraft truly count as such? Is it not true that you have to focus immensely on proper hand-eye-coordination and nigh-instinctive reflexes to beat an opponent at CS, as well as planning and executing carefully laid out building and combat strategies in SC whilst simultaneously reacting to whatever the other player does?
I always shut down "some part" of my mind when I'm playing, but I need reflexes for FPS (like with clay shooting) and logic for strategy games (like with chess). What I'm playing thus depends on what part of my mind I feel needs relaxing. If I want to shut down completely I grab a good book and go chill, casually allowing my fantasy to work by itself without any sort of "you need to win" pressure like it exists when playing most video games.
Ya, I definately do a lot more thinking playing video games than playing darts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/06 03:01:53
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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Then you've never actually played darts...
And I am surprised that racecar driving hasn't come up in this thread, either...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/06 03:04:22
Subject: Do you consider videogames to be a sport?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
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No.
No I do not.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/06 03:12:13
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Fanatic with Madcap Mushrooms
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They're not sports in the traditional sense.
They're highly intense competitions, but not sports. Warhammer isn't a sport, but it can be highly intense and competitive (relatively intense, heh)
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Some people play to win, some people play for fun. Me? I play to kill toy soldiers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/06 04:13:26
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Hallowed Canoness
Ireland
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SoloFalcon wrote:And I am surprised that racecar driving hasn't come up in this thread, either...
I actually thought about it, considering that you "just" sit on a wheel and steer regardless of whether you're sitting in front of a screen or out on a real track, with the only difference thus being the risk involved.
But you probably need a bit of strength in the arms to properly steer a racing car, so certain people would just point out the "physical requirement" as the defining trait. Or do racing cars all have servo-assisted steering? I have no clue about that.
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